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Re: Center Options 

Post#481 » by BigSlam » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:28 pm

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Roll Tide 09 wrote:The problem is that his issue is that he needs a new team because it appears that his effort and enthusiasm for this team has run its course…creating dead weight.

It really feels like you're using your knowledge of his personal life to judge him. I don't see any effort or enthusiasm issue with him when he plays.

I don’t get this take either.

I don’t care that his relationship failed and people think he got worked (I just feel terrible for the poor innocent little human caught in the middle). It has nothing to do with his on court output.

*although I do question his effort when he plays. Loves taking 3’s, terrible P&R defence- but again, that has nothing to do with anything off court.
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Re: Center Options 

Post#482 » by amcoolio » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:56 pm

Foice wrote:I like. Thomas Bryant. He's contract end this season and should be cheap trade for him. He have injured issues but if he can stay health, i think will be a good option. He is young and could develop more

(English is not my first language, so sorry any mistake)


Good call. Bryant would be a great piece, but I do not think the Wiz would trade him in division, especially since we are competing for the same playoff spots.
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Re: Center Options 

Post#483 » by Roll Tide 09 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:33 am

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Roll Tide 09 wrote:The problem is that his issue is that he needs a new team because it appears that his effort and enthusiasm for this team has run its course…creating dead weight.

It really feels like you're using your knowledge of his personal life to judge him. I don't see any effort or enthusiasm issue with him when he plays.

I don’t know anything about his personal life. I only discuss what is observed on the court. Of course I want him to succeed here, but he also needs to be shipped out before he tanks any remaining value…if he doesn’t start to show progress.


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Re: Center Options 

Post#484 » by JDR720 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:50 am

If PJ were on another team he probably would be one of our top trade targets on paper. So us trading him is less about PJ and more about filling a need and not having much else of value to trade.

If he were 6-9 instead of 6-7 most of our issues would be solved. We need someone at center who can be decent defensively and not a waste of space offensively, PJ can do that...until he has to play against bigger centers.

Plumlee isn't good in general and will be a liability with his FT shooting and PJ isn't much bigger than Miles. We can't play small vs most of the East playoff teams and expect to win a playoff series. Are we really going to rely on Richards to be our best true center behind Plumlee?
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Re: Center Options 

Post#485 » by Goodecharlotte » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:57 am

Well we didn't miss Plumdog last night so why not trade him a 2nd & maybe begrudgingly Ish for Claxton
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Re: Center Options 

Post#486 » by SWedd523 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:28 pm

we have Center issues yet so many people want to trade the only vet Center on the roster

i just don't get it
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Post#487 » by HornetJail » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pm

SWedd523 wrote:we have Center issues yet so many people want to trade the only vet Center on the roster

i just don't get it

we have center issues because the only vet center on the roster is hot garbage
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Re: Center Options 

Post#488 » by Braggins » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:56 pm

SWedd523 wrote:we have Center issues yet so many people want to trade the only vet Center on the roster

i just don't get it

They could have just drafted the Turkish Penguin and put an end to this nonsense (Ive been pushing that nickname hard on my friends, so thanks lol).

My opinion from draft night that they completely botched this years draft has remained unchanged.
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Re: Center Options 

Post#489 » by Goodecharlotte » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:58 pm

Now PJ's back and Richards progressing if you add Claxton might be a nice center trio
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Post#490 » by geraldwallace » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:53 am

Braggins wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:we have Center issues yet so many people want to trade the only vet Center on the roster

i just don't get it

They could have just drafted the Turkish Penguin and put an end to this nonsense (Ive been pushing that nickname hard on my friends, so thanks lol).

My opinion from draft night that they completely botched this years draft has remained unchanged.


Yes the Hornets issues on defense would be saved by a guy averaging 4 rebounds per game. Whose presence on the floor has basically zero effect on the Rockets defense.
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Re: Center Options 

Post#491 » by Sothron » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:17 am

If Holmes doesn't excite some of you guys, which I find surprising, what about Bamba? Assuming his current injury isn't serious he's basically been replaced by WCJ in Orlando. Bamba can rebound, block and has worked on his outside shot. I'm not suggesting he's suddenly KAT or Jokic out there but he does two things that the team needs.

Another guy? Jakob Poeltl in SAS. They are treading water and he's having a career year for them.
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Re: Center Options 

Post#492 » by Bassman » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:31 pm

Sothron wrote:If Holmes doesn't excite some of you guys, which I find surprising, what about Bamba? Assuming his current injury isn't serious he's basically been replaced by WCJ in Orlando. Bamba can rebound, block and has worked on his outside shot. I'm not suggesting he's suddenly KAT or Jokic out there but he does two things that the team needs.

Another guy? Jakob Poeltl in SAS. They are treading water and he's having a career year for them.


Would LOVE Holmes but he’s not getting dealt after signing his deal. Woulda coulda shoulda in the off-season but this team didn’t try or didn’t pull it off.

Bamba would be helpful here, but nothing changes relative to his availability. His PT in Orlando seems secure.

Polti has decent numbers on paper but he’s a horrible free throw shooter (not as bad as Plum but 35% is BAD). Need a better upgrade.
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Re: Center Options 

Post#493 » by BigSlam » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:40 pm

“DeMarcus Cousins, Bucks Reportedly Agree to 1-Year, Non-Guaranteed Contract”


*Sits back, waiting for the usual crew to freak out that we didn’t sign him, or sign someone, or sign anyone…
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Re: Center Options 

Post#494 » by MPM » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:59 pm

Non-guaranteed veteran minimum contract for a player that, unfortunately, would be our starting center (says more about our non-existent 5 spot than Cousins). Zero risk move by the Bucks. Too bad we didn't have an open roster spot. I've been super down on Richards, but he's been showing signs of late. Wouldn't make sense to move/waive him now and the only team that could eat Plumlee's deal is OKC and they're at 15 players and would likely want a pick to take on salary and waive a player (existing or Plumdog).
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Re: Center Options 

Post#495 » by Sothron » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:59 pm

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Sothron wrote:If Holmes doesn't excite some of you guys, which I find surprising, what about Bamba? Assuming his current injury isn't serious he's basically been replaced by WCJ in Orlando. Bamba can rebound, block and has worked on his outside shot. I'm not suggesting he's suddenly KAT or Jokic out there but he does two things that the team needs.

Another guy? Jakob Poeltl in SAS. They are treading water and he's having a career year for them.


Would LOVE Holmes but he’s not getting dealt after signing his deal. Woulda coulda shoulda in the off-season but this team didn’t try or didn’t pull it off.

Bamba would be helpful here, but nothing changes relative to his availability. His PT in Orlando seems secure.

Polti has decent numbers on paper but he’s a horrible free throw shooter (not as bad as Plum but 35% is BAD). Need a better upgrade.


I think Poeltl would be really good here. He rebounds, blocks and yes, he's a terrible FT shooter but let's be honest: what center out there has no warts at all and is available for trade? Mason is easily the worst starting center in the NBA and it is the only position really holding the team back. I can't see the Magic paying Bamba when they clearly favor WCJ over him. I still would love to get Holmes but as you said it baffles me why they made no effort to bring him in. He is such a clear upgrade.
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Re: Center Options 

Post#496 » by BigSlam » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:38 pm

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Bassman wrote:
Sothron wrote:If Holmes doesn't excite some of you guys, which I find surprising, what about Bamba? Assuming his current injury isn't serious he's basically been replaced by WCJ in Orlando. Bamba can rebound, block and has worked on his outside shot. I'm not suggesting he's suddenly KAT or Jokic out there but he does two things that the team needs.

Another guy? Jakob Poeltl in SAS. They are treading water and he's having a career year for them.


Would LOVE Holmes but he’s not getting dealt after signing his deal. Woulda coulda shoulda in the off-season but this team didn’t try or didn’t pull it off.

Bamba would be helpful here, but nothing changes relative to his availability. His PT in Orlando seems secure.

Polti has decent numbers on paper but he’s a horrible free throw shooter (not as bad as Plum but 35% is BAD). Need a better upgrade.


I think Poeltl would be really good here. He rebounds, blocks and yes, he's a terrible FT shooter but let's be honest: what center out there has no warts at all and is available for trade? Mason is easily the worst starting center in the NBA and it is the only position really holding the team back. I can't see the Magic paying Bamba when they clearly favor WCJ over him. I still would love to get Holmes but as you said it baffles me why they made no effort to bring him in. He is such a clear upgrade.

You literally have zero idea if there was no effort to bring Holmes to Charlotte or not.
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Re: Center Options 

Post#497 » by Sothron » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:09 am

BigSlam wrote:
Sothron wrote:
Bassman wrote:
Would LOVE Holmes but he’s not getting dealt after signing his deal. Woulda coulda shoulda in the off-season but this team didn’t try or didn’t pull it off.

Bamba would be helpful here, but nothing changes relative to his availability. His PT in Orlando seems secure.

Polti has decent numbers on paper but he’s a horrible free throw shooter (not as bad as Plum but 35% is BAD). Need a better upgrade.


I think Poeltl would be really good here. He rebounds, blocks and yes, he's a terrible FT shooter but let's be honest: what center out there has no warts at all and is available for trade? Mason is easily the worst starting center in the NBA and it is the only position really holding the team back. I can't see the Magic paying Bamba when they clearly favor WCJ over him. I still would love to get Holmes but as you said it baffles me why they made no effort to bring him in. He is such a clear upgrade.

You literally have zero idea if there was no effort to bring Holmes to Charlotte or not.


Read the post I quoted. It said, and I quote again, "but the team didn't try or didn't pull it off."

I have no idea if they tried to bring him in but I don't remember hearing that they were in on him either in the off season. Do you have anything that shows they were in on him and he just chose to stay in Sac town?
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Re: Center Options 

Post#498 » by wilson115 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:06 am

Sims wasted behind Robinson and Noel on the Knicks:

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Re: Center Options 

Post#499 » by Diop » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:23 am

Apparently sims isn’t the smartest with defensive schemes, I still wish we had him though
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Re: Center Options 

Post#500 » by amcoolio » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:28 am

wilson115 wrote:Sims wasted behind Robinson and Noel on the Knicks:



I definitely don't want to create a narrative that will hurt people's feelings, but I am speculating the Hornets didn't consider Sims an option based on how many picks we had and where he was drafted

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