The Kemba Walker Thread

Eoghan · Post #501 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:10 pm

Not having a training camp is probably the hardest on a PG than any other position. Compared to other rookie PGs playing minutes at the position (excluding Rubio since he was drafted earlier) and Kemba's not exactly the ugly duckling:
Irving: 17.4 & 4.8
Brandon Knight: 12.6 & 3.2
Shumpert: 11.6 & 3.5
Kemba: 11.9 & 3.2
(Augustine's rookie year): 11.8 & 3.5

Only Kyrie is really tearing it up, and that's what you expect out of a #1 pick. It's way too early to pigeonhole Kemba into chucker, not a PG, etc. categories. Chill out and enjoy the growing pains.

captaincrunk · Post #502 » by **captaincrunk** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:40 pm

BrotherDave wrote:Not having a training camp is probably the hardest on a PG than any other position. Compared to other rookie PGs playing minutes at the position (excluding Rubio since he was drafted earlier) and Kemba's not exactly the ugly duckling:
Irving: 17.4 & 4.8
Brandon Knight: 12.6 & 3.2
Shumpert: 11.6 & 3.5
Kemba: 11.9 & 3.2
(Augustine's rookie year): 11.8 & 3.5

Only Kyrie is really tearing it up, and that's what you expect out of a #1 pick. It's way too early to pigeonhole Kemba into chucker, not a PG, etc. categories. Chill out and enjoy the growing pains.

I like seeing that it's in line with Knight and Augustin. Knight is playing on a similarly bad team right now too.

Stun704 · Post #503 » by **Stun704** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:54 pm

captaincrunk wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Not having a training camp is probably the hardest on a PG than any other position. Compared to other rookie PGs playing minutes at the position (excluding Rubio since he was drafted earlier) and Kemba's not exactly the ugly duckling:
Irving: 17.4 & 4.8
Brandon Knight: 12.6 & 3.2
Shumpert: 11.6 & 3.5
Kemba: 11.9 & 3.2
(Augustine's rookie year): 11.8 & 3.5

Only Kyrie is really tearing it up, and that's what you expect out of a #1 pick. It's way too early to pigeonhole Kemba into chucker, not a PG, etc. categories. Chill out and enjoy the growing pains.

I like seeing that it's in line with Knight and Augustin. Knight is playing on a similarly bad team right now too.

except Knight isn't playing on a gimped half injured team.

SWedd523 · Post #504 » by **SWedd523** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:09 pm

and has Greg Monroe

Marvel · Post #505 » by **Marvel** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:45 pm

Stun704 wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Not having a training camp is probably the hardest on a PG than any other position. Compared to other rookie PGs playing minutes at the position (excluding Rubio since he was drafted earlier) and Kemba's not exactly the ugly duckling:
Irving: 17.4 & 4.8
Brandon Knight: 12.6 & 3.2
Shumpert: 11.6 & 3.5
Kemba: 11.9 & 3.2
(Augustine's rookie year): 11.8 & 3.5

Only Kyrie is really tearing it up, and that's what you expect out of a #1 pick. It's way too early to pigeonhole Kemba into chucker, not a PG, etc. categories. Chill out and enjoy the growing pains.

I like seeing that it's in line with Knight and Augustin. Knight is playing on a similarly bad team right now too.

except Knight isn't playing on a gimped half injured team.

Exactly, people need to slow their role. This is a rookie PG we're talking about on thee worst team in the entire league. If you're expecting Kemba to turn into CP3 over here, then you're setting yourself up for a major disappointment.

Our offense looks like complete shambles, i'm sure the players don't even know what they're doing out there. Kemba will get better as a PG, he's not on DJ's level yet, but he will become a better PG in time.

Eoghan · Post #506 » by **Eoghan** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:13 am

I hope this fierce losing doesn't kill Kemba's confidence. Must be tough coming from winning a Nat. Championship to this.

Leolovinliberal · Post #507 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:48 am

Kemba Chucker with another disgusting game: 8 points on 4/19 shooting. This is the third game in a row where he has shot at least 1 airball. This guy has ZERO pg skills, and keeps shooting, despite not even coming close to the basket. He's an oompah loompah who isn't that athletic. I expect that he will be murdered by a teammate by seasons end.

Leolovinliberal · Post #508 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:50 am

BrotherDave wrote:I hope this fierce losing doesn't kill Kemba's confidence. Must be tough coming from winning a Nat. Championship to this.

Kill his confidence? Kill his confidence? This guy keeps shooting, and shooting and shooting, and missing and missing and missing and you're worried about his freakin' confidence? He's the basketball pg equivalent of tone deaf. I hate Kemba Chucker.

Leolovinliberal · Post #509 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:51 am

BrotherDave wrote:Not having a training camp is probably the hardest on a PG than any other position. Compared to other rookie PGs playing minutes at the position (excluding Rubio since he was drafted earlier) and Kemba's not exactly the ugly duckling:
Irving: 17.4 & 4.8
Brandon Knight: 12.6 & 3.2
Shumpert: 11.6 & 3.5
Kemba: 11.9 & 3.2
(Augustine's rookie year): 11.8 & 3.5

Only Kyrie is really tearing it up, and that's what you expect out of a #1 pick. It's way too early to pigeonhole Kemba into chucker, not a PG, etc. categories. Chill out and enjoy the growing pains.

Would you mind posting the mpg's and shooting percentages for those other guys? I noticed those two stats were missing. Thanks

Post #510 » by **Diop** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:43 am

Interesting tweet by Bonnell.

rick_bonnell Rick Bonnell
#Bobcats coach Paul Silas will call lots of plays vs. Sixers to rein in the offense under Kemba Walker, who shot 4-of-19 vs. Wizards.

Will see how it turns out

Post #511 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:55 am

Sachmo wrote:Interesting tweet by Bonnell.

rick_bonnell Rick Bonnell
#Bobcats coach Paul Silas will call lots of plays vs. Sixers to rein in the offense under Kemba Walker, who shot 4-of-19 vs. Wizards.

Will see how it turns out

thats good news. its obvious kemba doesnt have the experience right now to run an NBA offense effectively. he definitely needs a lot of practice time and film time. let him keep getting the minutes to learn and make mistakes, but dont let him just wing it. its not good for his long term development. silas needs to start correcting those bad habits now.

Leolovinliberal · Post #512 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:01 am

fatlever wrote:
Sachmo wrote:Interesting tweet by Bonnell.

rick_bonnell Rick Bonnell
#Bobcats coach Paul Silas will call lots of plays vs. Sixers to rein in the offense under Kemba Walker, who shot 4-of-19 vs. Wizards.

Will see how it turns out

thats good news. its obvious kemba doesnt have the experience right now to run an NBA offense effectively. he definitely needs a lot of practice time and film time. let him keep getting the minutes to learn and make mistakes, but dont let him just wing it. its not good for his long term development. silas needs to start correcting those bad habits now.

A. It has nothing to do with "experience". He doesn't have the skills to be a pg. Never has, never will.
B. They're not "bad habits" that's his actual game: pound the ball, take a crazy off balance jumper, drive to the hole with no clue what you're going to do and get it blocked or bounce it off your knee. no spacing, no ball movement, be the man. He got away with it at UConn. In the NBA he's quickly becoming a poor mans Nate Robinson. Kemba Chucker is not a starting pg or sg in the NBA.

TheKingofSting · Post #513 » by **TheKingofSting** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:46 am

Leolovinliberal wrote:
fatlever wrote:
Sachmo wrote:Interesting tweet by Bonnell.

rick_bonnell Rick Bonnell
#Bobcats coach Paul Silas will call lots of plays vs. Sixers to rein in the offense under Kemba Walker, who shot 4-of-19 vs. Wizards.

Will see how it turns out

thats good news. its obvious kemba doesnt have the experience right now to run an NBA offense effectively. he definitely needs a lot of practice time and film time. let him keep getting the minutes to learn and make mistakes, but dont let him just wing it. its not good for his long term development. silas needs to start correcting those bad habits now.

A. It has nothing to do with "experience". He doesn't have the skills to be a pg. Never has, never will.
B. They're not "bad habits" that's his actual game: pound the ball, take a crazy off balance jumper, drive to the hole with no clue what you're going to do and get it blocked or bounce it off your knee. no spacing, no ball movement, be the man. He got away with it at UConn. In the NBA he's quickly becoming a poor mans Nate Robinson. Kemba Chucker is not a starting pg or sg in the NBA.

He steal your girl or something? Why you always so mad??

Post #514 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:41 pm

bonnell weighs in today

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... learn.html

Kemba Walker is in the early stages of “volume shooter syndrome.’’

Silas hates calling plays because it takes the spontaneity out of his point guard. I remember last season when Silas took over from Larry Brown, and Augustin would constantly look to Silas as he advanced the ball. It was a learned response to the way Brown demanded a lifeline between himself and his point guard.

Silas is dramatically less controlling. Augustin didn’t understand it at the time, but he needs that freedom. Right now, Walker doesn’t.

Right now Walker isn’t a point guard.

If Walker continues down this path, he’s a combo guard off the bench. He’s not a lead guard.

But when Silas said two games ago that it was Walker’s responsibility to think others get theirs first/Walker gets his second, this isn’t working at all.

Change is coming and Silas is patient. Kemba should go with the flow and learn.

tough but fair. silas has to reign in kemba to get him more under control. he has no clue how to be a pg. i hope stephen silas is as good with kemba as he was with steph curry.

Bizz · Post #515 » by **Bizz** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:32 pm

The problem with Kemba is he clearly has problems finishing at the rim. Players in the NBA are just bigger than him and its hurting his game. He needs to learn how to score at the rim and in the paint more efficiently, then he needs to work on his jumper that is extremely inconsistent. He is far from ready to be an NBA starting PG, but lets not give up on him just yet.

Leolovinliberal · Post #516 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:07 pm

In other words, exactly what I've been writing.

fatlever wrote:bonnell weighs in today

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... learn.html

Kemba Walker is in the early stages of “volume shooter syndrome.’’

Silas hates calling plays because it takes the spontaneity out of his point guard. I remember last season when Silas took over from Larry Brown, and Augustin would constantly look to Silas as he advanced the ball. It was a learned response to the way Brown demanded a lifeline between himself and his point guard.

Silas is dramatically less controlling. Augustin didn’t understand it at the time, but he needs that freedom. Right now, Walker doesn’t.

Right now Walker isn’t a point guard.

If Walker continues down this path, he’s a combo guard off the bench. He’s not a lead guard.

But when Silas said two games ago that it was Walker’s responsibility to think others get theirs first/Walker gets his second, this isn’t working at all.

Change is coming and Silas is patient. Kemba should go with the flow and learn.

tough but fair. silas has to reign in kemba to get him more under control. he has no clue how to be a pg. i hope stephen silas is as good with kemba as he was with steph curry.

Leolovinliberal · Post #517 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:13 pm

BrotherDave wrote:Not having a training camp is probably the hardest on a PG than any other position. Compared to other rookie PGs playing minutes at the position (excluding Rubio since he was drafted earlier) and Kemba's not exactly the ugly duckling:
Irving: 17.4 & 4.8
Brandon Knight: 12.6 & 3.2
Shumpert: 11.6 & 3.5
Kemba: 11.9 & 3.2
(Augustine's rookie year): 11.8 & 3.5

Only Kyrie is really tearing it up, and that's what you expect out of a #1 pick. It's way too early to pigeonhole Kemba into chucker, not a PG, etc. categories. Chill out and enjoy the growing pains.

Dave, I never heard back from you, so I'll ask again: Could you post the mpg's and Shooting %'s for those players that you listed? Thanks

SWedd523 · Post #518 » by **SWedd523** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:22 pm

Leo, tell us how you really feel

Leolovinliberal · Post #519 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:04 pm

SWEDD523 wrote:Leo, tell us how you really feel

I'm just a frustrated fan, that's all.

SWedd523 · Post #520 » by **SWedd523** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:18 pm

Leolovinliberal wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:Leo, tell us how you really feel

I'm just a frustrated fan, that's all.

A lot of guys are frustrated, so it's not like you're the only one. But I have to say it's pretty clear that you, fan, and Kemba are three words that will never go together? :wink: