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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#501 » by Braggins » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:28 pm

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Rich4114 wrote:I think with JB, once you get into his good graces you are locked in there for a very long time regardless of play. That’s why we’ve seen so much reliance on Devonte and the twins because of how they were playing right before the pandemic shut down.

The fact that JB toggles between which Twin plays and which one doesn't disproves this.

My theory is that JB is in the same boat as the rest of us and still has no idea which Martin is which and he feels too awkward about it at this point to ask.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#502 » by Rich4114 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:48 am

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Rich4114 wrote:I think with JB, once you get into his good graces you are locked in there for a very long time regardless of play. That’s why we’ve seen so much reliance on Devonte and the twins because of how they were playing right before the pandemic shut down.

The fact that JB toggles between which Twin plays and which one doesn't disproves this.

My theory is that JB is in the same boat as the rest of us and still has no idea which Martin is which and he feels too awkward about it at this point to ask.


10 is offense twin and 11 is defense twin.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#503 » by luciano-davidwesley » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:43 am

Rich4114 wrote:
Braggins wrote:
BigSlam wrote:The fact that JB toggles between which Twin plays and which one doesn't disproves this.

My theory is that JB is in the same boat as the rest of us and still has no idea which Martin is which and he feels too awkward about it at this point to ask.


10 is offense twin and 11 is defense twin.

10 is offers nothing twin and 11 is defense twin.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#504 » by DY_nasty » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:12 am

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:
Braggins wrote:My theory is that JB is in the same boat as the rest of us and still has no idea which Martin is which and he feels too awkward about it at this point to ask.


10 is offense twin and 11 is defense twin.

10 is offers nothing twin and 11 is defense twin.

and defense twin can't even thrive anymore because we're playing this stupid zone :lol:
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#505 » by HornetJail » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:35 pm

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:
Braggins wrote:My theory is that JB is in the same boat as the rest of us and still has no idea which Martin is which and he feels too awkward about it at this point to ask.


10 is offense twin and 11 is defense twin.

10 is offers nothing twin and 11 is defense twin.

11 is MCW with different hair. 10 is a failed clone of 11 but inherited MCW's offense from when he was in Philadelphia.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#506 » by amcoolio » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:59 pm

All the twins (or one of them) need to do is start hitting 40% from three to be valuable
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#507 » by fatlever » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:19 pm

amcoolio wrote:All the twins (or one of them) need to do is start hitting 40% from three to be valuable
Only 13% improvement to go. So close.

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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#508 » by yosemiteben » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:28 pm

Rich4114 wrote:I think with JB, once you get into his good graces you are locked in there for a very long time regardless of play. That’s why we’ve seen so much reliance on Devonte and the twins because of how they were playing right before the pandemic shut down.

I actually think it's the opposite. Cody went from obvious primary starter to fighting for minutes. The Martins have been in and out of the rotation, as has Monk and McDaniels. Biz has come and gone.

JB seems to me to be very far from fixed on his rotations because of loyalty to his guys.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#509 » by amcoolio » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:35 pm

fatlever wrote:
amcoolio wrote:All the twins (or one of them) need to do is start hitting 40% from three to be valuable
Only 13% improvement to go. So close.

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We've seen bigger improvements out of worse players though. It's not like their forms are broken
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#510 » by DY_nasty » Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:02 pm

amcoolio wrote:
fatlever wrote:
amcoolio wrote:All the twins (or one of them) need to do is start hitting 40% from three to be valuable
Only 13% improvement to go. So close.

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We've seen bigger improvements out of worse players though. It's not like their forms are broken

i think their form has always been trash tbh. the NBA range is simply busting their fluidity. and even if it wasn't, they're visibly uncomfortable shooting now. or doing anything with the ball for that matter outside of going straight at the rim with one dribble or less.

i think its really important to state that neither has a real role on offense either. its unfair to ask guys to hop into the lineup and just score from everywhere like devonte, monk, and even jalen have done this year. when you're not confident and have no role, the game can quickly get overwhelming and that's exactly what's happened to both of those guys. i think our offense (when running) isn't inherently bad... but its really demanding that everyone be proactive within sets. these guys should never be probing or initiating anything. they should be end points of the offense for set shots and cuts. as is, they get the ball on the wings and feel obligated to create along with everyone else.

and defensively, cody can't shine like last year because we're either in a zone, asking him to chase down shooters, or making him guard bigs. he's always been a good 1 on 1 guy that thrived in creating scrambles.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#511 » by DY_nasty » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:19 am

Read on Twitter


watch as borrego eats a hat
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#512 » by euphorbus » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:00 am

I am getting the strong feeling that Mitch Kupchak is a better evaluator of talent than Coach Borrego. Maybe he should listen to his boss more often.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#513 » by DY_nasty » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:59 am

euphorbus wrote:I am getting the strong feeling that Mitch Kupchak is a better evaluator of talent than Coach Borrego. Maybe he should listen to his boss more often.

dude really acting like he never seen this kid outside of film before :lol:
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#514 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:21 am

"I'm going to have to took a hard look at Vernon".

No **** Borrego.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#515 » by luciano-davidwesley » Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:09 am

No let's give back those minutes to the proven liability Biz instead.

He's a vet after all.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#516 » by yosemiteben » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:52 pm

Good read, I really like Boone:

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You've talked a lot about the core principles you are trying to instill into the team. Can you explain what they are to those who are unfamiliar and what you want to accomplish with them?

Our core principles that define our culture are No. 1 being centered and fully present. That when you walk in our building you are here with us, you are present, ready to work. And I always say this to our guys, ‘Be where your feet are.’ No wasted time, no water energy elsewhere. No wasted energy on the past. Be fully centered and present in the moment in getting better.

The second one would be just curiosity. We want players that are curious about the game. They are perpetual students of the game. They want to get better. They want to develop. There’s a hunger, there’s an appetite. That’s a core piece of what we are trying to build here.

The third piece has probably got us through this entire season, which is being fully connected as a team. Through the highs and lows of the season staying connected, never giving in. Holding each other up, being relationship-focused. One of the things I pride myself in as a coach is being relationship-centered and focused. With my staff, there’s constant communication. Even when we disagree or at times people aren’t on the same page, the way we get through that is we communicate, we stay connected. I think this team has exceeded expectations this year because of that. They’ve stayed the course and they’ve stayed together on the floor and off the floor. I’ve seen it on both sides.

And then (lastly), we always compete. It goes back to last year. One of those core principles is we always compete. Whether we are out-manned, out-talented, we’re injured, we're down 10 with a minute to go, we stay the course and we continue to compete to the last minute. We compete 'til the last day. That's what we do here and that’s the standard. So, I’m proud of our guys for that. They’ve stayed this course and this was laid in the roots of last season. When nobody thought we could do anything last year, when everybody looked at our roster and said that's probably the least-experienced, least-experienced roster in the NBA we just did not accept that. And I’m not going to accept that. I don’t value my team based on what I hear or from the outside. I value what I see in their work and their commitment to each other. And that’s how we’ve built this thing.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#517 » by BigSlam » Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:19 am

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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#518 » by -Ian- » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:00 pm

I've watched that video about 20 times now. I love this team's bond and chemistry. JB seems to be a very likeable dude and it's evident the players respect him. I hope he reaches 1000 wins with this franchise.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#519 » by Hornet Mania » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:32 pm

Good for JB. This group has a great bond, I hope they can build on that with plenty of success in the future.
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Re: Not Van Damme: The James Borrego Thread 

Post#520 » by CuseMayne » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:53 pm

Lol I found it so funny that at the end it's just JB and Biz with a long hug by themselves in the middle of the locker room.

Cmon Biz...just be our Udonis Haslem for the next 10 years. We all love you but you shouldn't really be on the floor.

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