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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#521 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:06 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:I think were going to resign Adrien cheap.


:bowdown:

I would love for that to happen if this time Clifford is willing to play Adrien at his natural position of PF, and give him minutes over Zeller if he's deserving


Hes working out with the team in Charlotte as we speak. No reason why we shouldn't offer him a deal.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#522 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:16 am

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mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:I think were going to resign Adrien cheap.


:bowdown:

I would love for that to happen if this time Clifford is willing to play Adrien at his natural position of PF, and give him minutes over Zeller if he's deserving


Hes working out with the team in Charlotte as we speak. No reason why we shouldn't offer him a deal.


I read about that the other day. Adrien never should've been dealt away in the first place...Sessions neither, well maybe, but not for that package of Neal/Ridnour
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#523 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:18 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
:bowdown:

I would love for that to happen if this time Clifford is willing to play Adrien at his natural position of PF, and give him minutes over Zeller if he's deserving


Hes working out with the team in Charlotte as we speak. No reason why we shouldn't offer him a deal.


I read about that the other day. Adrien never should've been dealt away in the first place...Sessions neither, well maybe, but not for that package of Neal/Ridnour


Adrien ripped it up for the Bucks. I think a lot of that was mostly just being on a horrific team though. Either way, hes a terrific backup.

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Post#524 » by ARHornet » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:20 am

I'd be good with Adrien being brought back cheap as a 5th or 6th big.
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Post#525 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:31 am

ARHornet wrote:I'd be good with Adrien being brought back cheap as a 5th or 6th big.


I think Adrien would be more than a 5th or 6th big though if he chose to return. Otherwise, he could go somewhere else or return to Milwaukee to be their 3rd or 4th big. I wouldn't mind a rotation of Jefferson, McRoberts, Biyombo, Adrien, and Zeller, where all of the reserves would have to earn their minutes. I thought Charlotte had solid depth in the frontcourt last year with Tolliver included, but Clifford used it wrong
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Post#526 » by ARHornet » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:38 am

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ARHornet wrote:I'd be good with Adrien being brought back cheap as a 5th or 6th big.


I think Adrien would be more than a 5th or 6th big though if he chose to return. Otherwise, he could go somewhere else or return to Milwaukee to be their 3rd or 4th big. I wouldn't mind a rotation of Jefferson, McRoberts, Biyombo, Adrien, and Zeller, where all of the reserves would have to earn their minutes. I thought Charlotte had solid depth in the frontcourt last year with Tolliver included, but Clifford used it wrong

Yeah, I just mean in an ideal scenario he would be your 5th or 6th guy. I think he's a great guy to have around, but I don't really want to be counting on him for key minutes. But if he beats out Zeller/Biz then so be it.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#527 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:50 am

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ARHornet wrote:I'd be good with Adrien being brought back cheap as a 5th or 6th big.


I think Adrien would be more than a 5th or 6th big though if he chose to return. Otherwise, he could go somewhere else or return to Milwaukee to be their 3rd or 4th big. I wouldn't mind a rotation of Jefferson, McRoberts, Biyombo, Adrien, and Zeller, where all of the reserves would have to earn their minutes. I thought Charlotte had solid depth in the frontcourt last year with Tolliver included, but Clifford used it wrong

Yeah, I just mean in an ideal scenario he would be your 5th or 6th guy. I think he's a great guy to have around, but I don't really want to be counting on him for key minutes. But if he beats out Zeller/Biz then so be it.


I'd be willing to count on a guy that averaged 11 points on 52% shooting, 8 rebounds, and 1 block in 25 minutes with a 18.4 PER as a backup. Quality rotational players don't always have to be big names that were drafted in at least the 1st round of the draft. Sometimes there are gems in the rough, and I think Adrien is one of them, or at least could be. I think he deserves a fair shake on a team that's actually trying to win
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#528 » by Diop » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:02 am

he deserves to spend some minutes at Pf as well, not just as the 3rd string centre

i hope we see some flexibility in the rotations next year
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Post#529 » by KembaWalker » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:07 am

good teams should look at what Boris Diaw is able to bring to the table and realize McRoberts can basically match that role if not do it better if you give him a chance. I'm hoping he's overlooked and we steal him again
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Post#530 » by catch20two » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:02 am

KembaWalker wrote:good teams should look at what Boris Diaw is able to bring to the table and realize McRoberts can basically match that role if not do it better if you give him a chance. I'm hoping he's overlooked and we steal him again

McBob ain't gonna be better than Diaw at doing what Diaw been doing forever but that style of play has value at the PF position so McBob has value. It'll be easy to retain him.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#531 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:04 am

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KembaWalker wrote:good teams should look at what Boris Diaw is able to bring to the table and realize McRoberts can basically match that role if not do it better if you give him a chance. I'm hoping he's overlooked and we steal him again

McBob ain't gonna be better than Diaw at doing what Diaw been doing forever but that style of play has value at the PF position.


McRoberts isn't a better player than Diaw, but he brings toughness that Diaw could never bring to this team, and thats what we need. Diaw was so frustrating to watch, and still is at times. So much talent.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#532 » by JDR720 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:06 am

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KembaWalker wrote:good teams should look at what Boris Diaw is able to bring to the table and realize McRoberts can basically match that role if not do it better if you give him a chance. I'm hoping he's overlooked and we steal him again

McBob ain't gonna be better than Diaw at doing what Diaw been doing forever but that style of play has value at the PF position.


McRoberts isn't a better player than Diaw, but he brings toughness that Diaw could never bring to this team, and thats what we need. Diaw was so frustrating to watch, and still is at times. So much talent.

If Diaw was more athletic and in better shape in general and consistently tried he would be a border line all-star
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#533 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:09 am

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catch20two wrote:McBob ain't gonna be better than Diaw at doing what Diaw been doing forever but that style of play has value at the PF position.


McRoberts isn't a better player than Diaw, but he brings toughness that Diaw could never bring to this team, and thats what we need. Diaw was so frustrating to watch, and still is at times. So much talent.

If Diaw was more athletic and in better shape in general and consistently tried he would be a border line all-star


If he had the mentality of im going to kill you to win the game he would be an all star period. Hes always been chubby, but his basketball IQ is just incredible.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#534 » by ARHornet » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:22 am

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McRoberts isn't a better player than Diaw, but he brings toughness that Diaw could never bring to this team, and thats what we need. Diaw was so frustrating to watch, and still is at times. So much talent.

If Diaw was more athletic and in better shape in general and consistently tried he would be a border line all-star


If he had the mentality of im going to kill you to win the game he would be an all star period. Hes always been chubby, but his basketball IQ is just incredible.

Exactly. Diaw just has the mentality to defer to others. He's got the scoring ability to be great, but he'd rather set up a teammate with an open shot. If he had the "I'm gonna destroy you" mentality in Charlotte he probably would've done well. But to excel he needs to be on a team that has really good talent around him.

As for McRoberts, I really hope we retain him, and whether he starts or comes off the bench, he'll be a key contributor. He makes others on the floor better.
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Post#535 » by TheKingofSting2 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:40 am

When does he have to make a decision by?

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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#536 » by LamarMatic7 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:06 pm

If we do bring Jeff Adrien back, playing the Rocky theme music after his scores is a must.

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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#537 » by Joest2003 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:55 pm

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Joest2003 wrote:He is HUGELY underrated and it was a slap in the face for us to draft zeller.

Don't be silly - if we didn't we would not have had a backup PF, it was a position of need regardless of whether we expected McBob to start. Poor reasoning on your part here.


So you think its a good idea to use your number 4 overall pick on a position where a Mcroberts just proved hes more than capable of filing in the future?...so lets watch Mcroberts leave because he knows he wont get as much time here because you have to play a #4 pick and lets see how good we are then with Zeller starting.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#538 » by JDR720 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:29 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:He is HUGELY underrated and it was a slap in the face for us to draft zeller.

Don't be silly - if we didn't we would not have had a backup PF, it was a position of need regardless of whether we expected McBob to start. Poor reasoning on your part here.


So you think its a good idea to use your number 4 overall pick on a position where a Mcroberts just proved hes more than capable of filing in the future?...so lets watch Mcroberts leave because he knows he wont get as much time here because you have to play a #4 pick and lets see how good we are then with Zeller starting.

well the #4 pick should be more than capable than McBob is in the future
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#539 » by Joest2003 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:44 pm

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Joest2003 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Don't be silly - if we didn't we would not have had a backup PF, it was a position of need regardless of whether we expected McBob to start. Poor reasoning on your part here.


So you think its a good idea to use your number 4 overall pick on a position where a Mcroberts just proved hes more than capable of filing in the future?...so lets watch Mcroberts leave because he knows he wont get as much time here because you have to play a #4 pick and lets see how good we are then with Zeller starting.

well the #4 pick should be more than capable than McBob is in the future


NOTHING I have ever seen tells me Zeller will be better than Mcbob at any point in their careers. I cant understand how Charlotte fans take Mcjesus for granted so much. Jordan knows how important he is to the team thats why hes pushing hard to resign him and believes hes an important part of the teams future.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#540 » by yosemiteben » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:48 pm

Maybe you should look up McRoberts's career numbers before throwing out Zeller as a player that's incapable of being productive.

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