#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

[willywazza]

While most people think that MKG was a bust, (which is too premature) think about Derrick Favors. He was drafted third by the Nets and they gave up too soon on him. Granted, its not like they would need him now, but he just took a little longer to round out his pro game.

He is a threat for 14/10 every night, which is essentially what MKG is doing, he's just progressing twice as fast as Favors has. With that extra time think about how good he could become for our team. I am more impressed every game I watch him and how his motor never stops

True, but to be fair, he was expendable when you could bring in an established All-Star like Deron Williams.

It was more a case of the owner wanting to make things happen ASAP.

[HornetJail]

I know it's a small sample size of only 11 games, but Biz is shooting 64% from the field this year.

[Liver_Pooty]

I know it's a small sample size of only 11 games, but Biz is shooting 64% from the field this year.

Thank God. It actually should be higher since he gets most of his points off of put backs. Im not bothering to look it up, but last year I think he shot like 45% or so? I know it was under 50%, which was pathetic for a post player that 99% of his offense came within 2 feet of the time.

[HornetJail]

Thank God. It actually should be higher since he gets most of his points off of put backs.

These numbers are like those of Tyson Chandler, Deandre Jordan, Andre Drummond, Dwight Howard... guys that finish very strong around the basket, but don't take it outside the paint, if at all.

This is a 20 point increase from his career marks, so I wouldn't expect him to sustain these numbers, but I'll be ecstatic if that number's still in the mid-50s.

[Liver_Pooty]

Thank God. It actually should be higher since he gets most of his points off of put backs.

These numbers are like those of Tyson Chandler, Deandre Jordan, Andre Drummond, Dwight Howard... guys that finish very strong around the basket, but don't take it outside the paint, if at all.

This is a 20 point increase from his career marks, so I wouldn't expect him to sustain these numbers, but I'll be ecstatic if that number's still in the mid-50s.

Tonight he posted up, backed his man down and then attempted a left handed hook shot that went off the front of the rim.

That made me almost as happy as anything hes done in his two years. Shows confidence.

[SpearNMgicHelmt]

Thank God. It actually should be higher since he gets most of his points off of put backs.

These numbers are like those of Tyson Chandler, Deandre Jordan, Andre Drummond, Dwight Howard... guys that finish very strong around the basket, but don't take it outside the paint, if at all.

This is a 20 point increase from his career marks, so I wouldn't expect him to sustain these numbers, but I'll be ecstatic if that number's still in the mid-50s.

Tonight he posted up, backed his man down and then attempted a left handed hook shot that went off the front of the rim.

That made me almost as happy as anything hes done in his two years. Shows confidence.

I think they should run some plays early in games designed to get Biz the ball in good position so that he can score and get started on a good note, which will help him sustain that confidence. When he's expecting a pass, he's doing fine.

[LamarMatic7]

Interesting stat - Biz currently has the worst net rating on the whole team. For a defensive player he's sure giving up a lot of points, with him on the floor we're giving up 101.4 points per possession, only Taylor and Tolliver are worse. His 87.6 on offense is also very bad, a lot worse than the offensive rating off his running mates (Kemba-Hendo-MKG-McBob-Biz is our most used line-up).

Meanwhile, Adrien is at 96.8 - 95.4.

[Marvel]

Adrien would be playing against 2nd units though, wouldn't he. This DNP **** isn't going to help him. What's his excuse for MKG's minutes.

[LamarMatic7]

Adrien would be playing against 2nd units though, wouldn't he. This DNP **** isn't going to help him. What's his excuse for MKG's minutes.

Of course, you always have too look for that when taking these ratings into consideration.

Rocky has played in fourth quarters a bit though. I will take a look at play-by-plays to determine this later on.

[Snidely FC]

While I believe your numbers support the decision, the eye test was telling me that Biz has made a ton of progress. The DNPCD seemed like a total slap in the face considering his effort and seeming improvement. Biz seems like a player whose youthful enthusiasm could be broken by such treatment. I agree that Adrien deserves some PT, but I totally disagree with the DNPCD for Biz.

[Eoghan]

Clifford: Biz, I need you to focus on what you do best, rebound and defend.
Biz: *shows most improvement in three years*
Clifford: Ah you know what? I'm just going to play this midget at center instead.

[mrknowitall215]

While I believe your numbers support the decision, the eye test was telling me that Biz has made a ton of progress. The DNPCD seemed like a total slap in the face considering his effort and seeming improvement. Biz seems like a player whose youthful enthusiasm could be broken by such treatment. I agree that Adrien deserves some PT, but I totally disagree with the DNPCD for Biz.

I know Clifford has been a godsend to the improvement of the Bobcats defense, but he need to get a little more creative with the defensive schemes if just temporarily when they are playing against a team with bigs that can shoot from the perimeter. Clifford should look into implementing a matchup zone that would keep the slow-footed bigs like Jefferson & Biyombo closer to the basket. Biyombo could have easily wreaked havoc on the Suns all the while helping the offense by grabbing a bunch of offensive rebounds last night

[mrknowitall215]

Per Rick Bonnell

Some fans feigned shock that Biyombo didn’t play tonight. I didn’t expect him to go DNP-CD, but I made sure to mention in my Friday story that Biyombo played only 7 ½ minutes in the second half against the Nets when the game was decided.

You know who played Biz’s minutes? Jeff Adrien. You know why? Because while Biyombo is longer and a better athlete, Adrien is a quicker study and, to use Clifford’s word, the team “functions’’ better right now with Adrien playing.

I’m thinking back to late last month when I wrote a lot about whether the Bobcats would exercise Biyombo’s rookie-scale option for next season. I kept saying it was not a given Biz would get that option. The reaction I got from the public was dismissive. That it was a “no-brainer.”

Actually, no. It was a close call. Biyombo will get his $4 million or so guaranteed next season, but the idea the Bobcats are sold on his potential is poppycock. I don’t understand how that’s a surprise to the fan base. It’s sure not the impression I’ve left.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... -play.html

[Snidely FC]

"I told you so," that's his insight? I just lost whatever benefit of the doubt I hoped to give him. The people on this board have so much more intellectual curiosity than the team beat writer. Disappointing.

[catch20two]

Poppycock.

[countryboi]

thats some complete bull...these dude knew biz was a project yet they get pissed that he is a project its ridiculous

[Eoghan]

To my trained eye Jeff Adrien and/or the unit he was playing with nearly let the Nets back into that game in the 4th quarter b/c Clifford kept most of the starters (you know, the guys that built the lead) out for too long/completely. Adrien gives us nice bench minutes, compared to the nearly worthless Tolliver and the hot/cold Zeller but acting like a 2 game stretch (one of which was an embarrassing loss to the Suns) is indicative of Bismack being supplanted is beyond ridiculous.

[mrknowitall215]

13 games in...

Biyombo starting: 5-4

Jefferson starting: 1-3

Biyombo playing 30+ minutes: 3-0

[lmcguir5]

I have a feeling Clifford doesn't know this team very well and is just experimenting with different combinations. He's thrown some curveballs here lately though. Giving Rocky all of that playing time last night and none for Biz? MKG disappeared in the second and third quarters, and Tolliver is playing more and more everyday.

This is honestly not what I had hoped when we hired him. I thought he would be a common sense coach who wouldn't leave you scratching your head, but he seems like he came from the Dunlap tree. I was at the game last night and it was just frustrating to watch, especially watching Zeller look like crap and Biz still not getting minutes

[catch20two]

13 games in...

Biyombo starting: 5-4

Jefferson starting: 1-3

Biyombo playing 30+ minutes: 3-0

Wow. I was just mentioning yesterday about how we look worst with Jefferson on the floor. I'm not saying that Biz is better than Jefferson but we need to play Biz a lot more than we have when Jefferson is in the lineup even if we have to experiment with both of them in at the same time. McBob, Zeller, and Tolliver are getting killed on the boards. We can't keep up this defensive identity without our best shot blocker and rebounder (Biz) on the bench.