Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

Radu_Hornets · Post #521 » by **Radu_Hornets** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:49 am

We shouldn't be looking for trades that involves the Hornets to get out of the draft with more than 2 rookies...

The team doesn't need more than two, we have enough youngster on the roster.

UNCNYC · Post #522 » by **UNCNYC** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:48 pm

What about trading the 9th pick plus 24th pick for Klay Thompson, and Harrison Barnes?

Id rather 9th pick and 45 pick plus Gerald Hendo, for Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes but doubt they would do it

Draft CJ Fair

Kemba Sessions ( resign )
Klay CDR Neal
Barnes MKG Taylor
McRoberts Fair
Jefferson Zeller Bismak

If we did these moves I think we would contend in the East. This is also a good shooting team.

LamarMatic7 · Post #523 » by **LamarMatic7** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:52 pm

TheKingofSting wrote:I don't know how others feel but I have always liked Ersan's game even though he was hurt a lot last season.

He makes too much money and has had two seasons suspect enough after earning that contract of his to make me wary of him.

MasterIchiro · Post #524 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:36 am

I just don't see 2 rookies on a win-now team with a sizable young core, so I predict pick 9 will be kept as that player is closer to being NBA ready. However, I think if we can move up from 24 to reach a more polished prospect we will do so.

Would you make this trade?

Biyombo + 24

for

Gerald Green + pick 18 if TJ Warren is there.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #525 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:15 pm

Ichiro did you listen to Cho's presser yesterday? I think that he laid it out there really well. Essentially from a cap perspective the team needs to have young guys on rookie contracts as they start to pay guys like Al, Kemba, etc. He didn't say it but this is exactly how the Spurs manage their cap. He essentially said that while the team was open to all possibilities that it didn't make sense to put themselves in an unsustainable position where they sacrifice that long term pattern for a few wins in the short term. This is why the Hornets aren't the most active team in trade talks now. They are committed to long term success and not going down the road they traveled during the LB years.

Also Boston is going all in for getting Love. Unless your trade gets them closer to that they aren't doing it.

MasterIchiro · Post #526 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:51 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Ichiro did you listen to Cho's presser yesterday? I think that he laid it out there really well. Essentially from a cap perspective the team needs to have young guys on rookie contracts as they start to pay guys like Al, Kemba, etc. He didn't say it but this is exactly how the Spurs manage their cap. He essentially said that while the team was open to all possibilities that it didn't make sense to put themselves in an unsustainable position where they sacrifice that long term pattern for a few wins in the short term. This is why the Hornets aren't the most active team in trade talks now. They are committed to long term success and not going down the road they traveled during the LB years.

Also Boston is going all in for getting Love. Unless your trade gets them closer to that they aren't doing it.

That trade is with the Suns.

MasterIchiro · Post #527 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:33 pm

Multiple Warriors fans are interested in Gerald Henderson should Klay Thompson be sent out for Kevin Love. The rumor involves Barnes going to the Wolves as well. One version has the Wolves trading pick 13 with Love (makes no sense to me), another has Barnes going to the Suns for pick 14 which goes to the Wolves (makes sense to me). The deal seems to be David Lee + Klay Thompson + pick 14 for Kevin Love + Kevin Martin + Jose Barea. The Warriors would keep Iggy at SF and look to bring in a SG cheap. They really like Henderson over there.

mrknowitall215 · Post #528 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:39 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Multiple Warriors fans are interested in Gerald Henderson should Klay Thompson be sent out for Kevin Love. The rumor involves Barnes going to the Wolves as well. One version has the Wolves trading pick 13 with Love (makes no sense to me), another has Barnes going to the Suns for pick 14 which goes to the Wolves (makes sense to me). The deal seems to be David Lee + Klay Thompson + pick 14 for Kevin Love + Kevin Martin + Jose Barea. The Warriors would keep Iggy at SF and look to bring in a SG cheap. They really like Henderson over there.

What are you trying to insinuate? That if Charlotte sent Henderson & #24 in a multi-team trade that they could get #13 in return?

MasterIchiro · Post #529 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:41 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Multiple Warriors fans are interested in Gerald Henderson should Klay Thompson be sent out for Kevin Love. The rumor involves Barnes going to the Wolves as well. One version has the Wolves trading pick 13 with Love (makes no sense to me), another has Barnes going to the Suns for pick 14 which goes to the Wolves (makes sense to me). The deal seems to be David Lee + Klay Thompson + pick 14 for Kevin Love + Kevin Martin + Jose Barea. The Warriors would keep Iggy at SF and look to bring in a SG cheap. They really like Henderson over there.

What are you trying to insinuate? That if Charlotte sent Henderson & #24 in a multi-team trade that they could get #13 in return?

I just proved you can't read my mind.

I'm merely suggesting there's a market for Henderson. They were talking about sending us the TPE.

mrknowitall215 · Post #530 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:48 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Multiple Warriors fans are interested in Gerald Henderson should Klay Thompson be sent out for Kevin Love. The rumor involves Barnes going to the Wolves as well. One version has the Wolves trading pick 13 with Love (makes no sense to me), another has Barnes going to the Suns for pick 14 which goes to the Wolves (makes sense to me). The deal seems to be David Lee + Klay Thompson + pick 14 for Kevin Love + Kevin Martin + Jose Barea. The Warriors would keep Iggy at SF and look to bring in a SG cheap. They really like Henderson over there.

What are you trying to insinuate? That if Charlotte sent Henderson & #24 in a multi-team trade that they could get #13 in return?

I just proved you can't read my mind.

I'm merely suggesting there's a market for Henderson. They were talking about sending us the TPE.

I wasn't trying to read you mind, but I was trying to bend your post into the possibility that Charlotte could get the #13 pick from them inside of the deal if they liked Henderson that much

MasterIchiro · Post #531 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:51 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
What are you trying to insinuate? That if Charlotte sent Henderson & #24 in a multi-team trade that they could get #13 in return?

I just proved you can't read my mind.

I'm merely suggesting there's a market for Henderson. They were talking about sending us the TPE.

I wasn't trying to read you mind, but I was trying to bend your post into the possibility that Charlotte could get the #13 pick from them inside of the deal if they liked Henderson that much

Geez you are greedy. I'm just giddy they like Henderson. I'd take the TPE. Can it be used to get Taj Gibson or Chandler Parsons? Use your mind reading powers.

mrknowitall215 · Post #532 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:50 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
I just proved you can't read my mind.

I'm merely suggesting there's a market for Henderson. They were talking about sending us the TPE.

I wasn't trying to read you mind, but I was trying to bend your post into the possibility that Charlotte could get the #13 pick from them inside of the deal if they liked Henderson that much

Geez you are greedy. I'm just giddy they like Henderson. I'd take the TPE. Can it be used to get Taj Gibson or Chandler Parsons? Use your mind reading powers.

I would rather have a asset to trade to Chicago. Charlotte won't be the only team bidding for Gibson, nor will they be the only team with cap space

Elden Payton · Post #533 » by **Elden Payton** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:29 am

Warren will be available at #24.

No need to make a trade for a guy that will probably be there anyway.

Liver_Pooty · Post #534 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:35 am

Sik Infant wrote:Warren will be available at #24.

No need to make a trade for a guy that will probably be there anyway.

I doubt it my man. Hes been dominating people in workouts. The kid is a flatout scorer.

He isn't much else though, thats the problem.

mrknowitall215 · Post #535 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:38 am

Sik Infant wrote:Warren will be available at #24.

No need to make a trade for a guy that will probably be there anyway.

I doubt it. I think T.J. Warren will go to the first suitor in the teens that have more than their share of 3-point shooters and need a player that can score between the arc. I doubt that he'd get past the Bulls or Suns. The Bulls are desperate for offense from any position that's not occupied by a return Derrick Rose and I think the Suns would consider Warren as a possible upgrade to P.J. Tucker in their starting lineup down the road if not in the immediate future

Liver_Pooty · Post #536 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:48 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:Warren will be available at #24.

No need to make a trade for a guy that will probably be there anyway.

I doubt it. I think T.J. Warren will go to the first suitor in the teens that have more than their share of 3-point shooters and need a player that can score between the arc. I doubt that he'd get past the Bulls or Suns. The Bulls are desperate for offense from any position that's not occupied by a return Derrick Rose and I think the Suns would consider Warren as a possible upgrade to P.J. Tucker in their starting lineup down the road if not in the immediate future

More like an upgrade for Tucker immediately. Warren might be the steal of this draft. If he ever develops a deep ball were looking at a Carmelo type ( slight poor mans ) type player, and that is a steal in the mid first round

mrknowitall215 · Post #537 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:53 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:Warren will be available at #24.

No need to make a trade for a guy that will probably be there anyway.

I doubt it. I think T.J. Warren will go to the first suitor in the teens that have more than their share of 3-point shooters and need a player that can score between the arc. I doubt that he'd get past the Bulls or Suns. The Bulls are desperate for offense from any position that's not occupied by a return Derrick Rose and I think the Suns would consider Warren as a possible upgrade to P.J. Tucker in their starting lineup down the road if not in the immediate future

More like an upgrade for Tucker immediately. Warren might be the steal of this draft. If he ever develops a deep ball were looking at a Carmelo type ( slight poor mans ) type player, and that is a steal in the mid first round

Re: Suns; Tucker; Warren - That's why I said "if not the immediate future". I'm sure the Suns value Tucker's defense and hustle, areas that 'might' keep Warren from taking his job right away to give him a little rookie hazing

I see no reason why Warren wouldn't be at least a solid corner 3-point shooter within his first couple of years. Looking at his form & touch, I think he'll become a dependable threat beyond the arc similar to Luol Deng in his prime

Liver_Pooty · Post #538 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:13 am

Just saw a Jazz fan wanting to trade Kanter for a late first rounder. What do you guys think about trading the 24th pick for Kanter.

I would love it, had an off year, but I just remember him destroying Biyombo on multiple occasions. He has loads of potential, and I think he would be way better than anyone we could pick at 24.

BeesWax · Post #539 » by **BeesWax** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:17 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Just saw a Jazz fan wanting to trade Kanter for a late first rounder. What do you guys think about trading the 24th pick for Kanter.

I would love it, had an off year, but I just remember him destroying Biyombo on multiple occasions. He has loads of potential, and I think he would be way better than anyone we could pick at 24.

If they would do it I would be game. I don't see why they would and figure someone higher than us would offer their pick first.

mrknowitall215 · Post #540 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:29 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Just saw a Jazz fan wanting to trade Kanter for a late first rounder. What do you guys think about trading the 24th pick for Kanter.

I would love it, had an off year, but I just remember him destroying Biyombo on multiple occasions. He has loads of potential, and I think he would be way better than anyone we could pick at 24.

We don't really have a need for Kanter, but I'd be willing to use the #24 pick in a multi-team trade involving the Jazz and another team that may need his services