2021 Summer League Thread

[Lwcasu]

Scottie Lewis is also the dumbest basketball player I’ve ever seen.

JR Smith still has him beat but that was a WTF moment

[Heelsfan119]

Bouknight had a very weird few games. Sometimes he looked great, and other times someone could tell me he was undrafted and I would've believed them. He isn't as good a prospect as Monk was. His success will depend on what's between his ears.

Kai is...well he tries. I think he has good ideas, but he is out of control a lot. He really needs to hit the weights too. He had the ball under the rim multiple times yet couldn't make anything of it.

Thor has a shot to be a good 3&D player I think. Scottie...eh I doubt he is any better than Martin.

This is definitely a boom or bust draft for us. Not sure if I lean more towards boom or bust as of now.

Monk was a better pure shooter, but if you’re looking at who’s a better all-around player, Bouknight beats him in spades. Last year was the first year I felt Monk had a shot at being a player. However, he was an assassin, excellent some nights, horrible if his shot wasn’t falling. Bouknight has shown the ability to create for others. The biggest knock I have on him right now is his strength. If he’s going to be a great player, he’s going to have to get stronger.

Kai is just trying to do way too much. However, if he’s willing to learn, he’s got a bright future. I agree with you that Thor has potential as well.

The good news is typically players have improved under the JB regime. I have confidence in our development program.

[Snidely FC]

I still can't tell what he thought he was trying to do

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[JMAC3]

Not sure why the hate on Bouknight... the guy was the 11th pick and is averaging 17 ppg in the summer league through 4 games.

He has not had a horrible game shooting-wise in my mind.

7/14 19 pts
4/11 11 pts
11/23 23 pts
5/12 14 pts

Immanuel Quikley shot 4/18 and McBride 2/14 last night. Mobley has not been super impressive, tonight was Scottie Barnes best game... most of these guys have had up and down games.

I think if you just box score watch, it is easy to see guys have big games and get fomo, but those same guys have probably had a few stinkers in others.

[wilson115]

Just when I was thinking maybe Lewis can take Cody Martin's spot this year, he puts up that Q4.

That was the sort of cringe that I haven't missed.

Thor looks damn good, and Lewis preQ4 also looked really good.

Kai's worst game by a large margin.

I'm going to pretend like I'm not scared that Bouknight looks incapable of going ISO off the dribble, which I thought was his biggest strength.

I think he does well in ISO situations, however it’s his lack of strength that’s holding him back now. That is going to be a key part of his development.

I mean there were 3 or 4 times where he lost his handle against pressure. I thought he was all about going head down and beating his man, but he's looked shook against any sort of ISO pressure.

Validates a couple of online scouts calling his ballhandling his biggest weakness heading into the draft. Not quite the go-get-it "alpha" primary scorer many pegged him out to be.

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[BigSlam]

I didn’t take it seriously at first, but I’m convinced we should sign Gelo as a 3&D guy. Had no idea he’s that good of a 3pt shooter with a quick release.

You need the "D" component to your game before you can be called a "3&D" guy.

Gelo is a "3&Absolutely nothing else" guy.

[Rich4114]

I didn’t take it seriously at first, but I’m convinced we should sign Gelo as a 3&D guy. Had no idea he’s that good of a 3pt shooter with a quick release.

You need the "D" component to your game before you can be called a "3&D" guy.

Gelo is a "3&Absolutely nothing else" guy.

Really? He seems to always be getting a hand on the ball and creating turnovers. Maybe he’s not so great on ball but man if we can just get that spot up 3pt shooter off the bench once in a while when we need it, I’m looking for that guy. Obviously can’t be a complete liability everywhere else though.

[BigSlam]

Watched on delay again. It's 11:30pm Sat night. The game has been over for over 2 hours, the players are at home in bed.....yet the Hornets still somehow managed to commit another turnover. That's turnover 1,346 tonight.

Any chance Bouk might ever be bothered to play all 4 qtrs of a game any time soon? Maybe he could even play 3 qtrs? That might be nice. This selective effort looking thing is going to wear thin pretty fast. When he looks good he really looks good, but those moments just seem to come and then pass him by very fluidly. Some posters spoke of his alpha mentality - I really want to see it for all of the 5th game.

Hang on: Hornets just committed turnover #1,347.

Although Kia rushed some things on offense he was guarding Barnes most of the night and absolutely dominated him on that end of the floor. Some posters expressed concerns about his rebounding ability predraft - I've been really impressed with his rebounding in SL. Bouk needs to start paying attention to Kia and learning how to play with 100% committed effort all game, every game.

Uh-oh, there's turnover # 1,348.

McD Vs Thor Vs Kulboka. That'g going to be an interesting battle to see which one of these alike players ends up earning the NBA and PT opportunity.

These guys have 1 more game to sow they really belong in the NBA. Based on game #2 and game #4 they still have a LOT to prove.

Anddddddddddddddd it's almost Sunday morning and there is turnover #1,349 for the game from us.

P.S. Scottie Lewis needs to spend less time jawing at the refs and more time concentrating on the game. He 'aint earned that right yet and that baseline inbound turnover passing directly to the opposition is inexcusable.

[BigSlam]

P.S. Why did Vern start, but only get 4mins PT?

[Heelsfan119]

I think he does well in ISO situations, however it’s his lack of strength that’s holding him back now. That is going to be a key part of his development.

I mean there were 3 or 4 times where he lost his handle against pressure. I thought he was all about going head down and beating his man, but he's looked shook against any sort of ISO pressure.

Validates a couple of online scouts calling his ballhandling his biggest weakness heading into the draft. Not quite the go-get-it "alpha" primary scorer many pegged him out to be.

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He was on a collegiate level. He does need to tighten the handle to become that in the pros. The good news is we don’t need him to be that in year 1. Let’s allow him the time to develop.

[Heelsfan119]

Not sure why the hate on Bouknight... the guy was the 11th pick and is averaging 17 ppg in the summer league through 4 games.

He has not had a horrible game shooting-wise in my mind.

7/14 19 pts
4/11 11 pts
11/23 23 pts
5/12 14 pts

Immanuel Quikley shot 4/18 and McBride 2/14 last night. Mobley has not been super impressive, tonight was Scottie Barnes best game... most of these guys have had up and down games.

I think if you just box score watch, it is easy to see guys have big games and get fomo, but those same guys have probably had a few stinkers in others.

These are great points. Also, take this from 2012:

Beal posted averages of 17.6 points, 4.6 rebounds, 1.8 assists while shooting 41.7 percent from the field and 30 percent from deep. He hit for double-figures in all five of Washington's games, including a high of 22 points in his Summer League debut against the Atlanta Hawks.

I’m not saying Bouk will be Beal, however, Beal wasn’t the Beal we know now in SL either. The key will be in his development and drive to become better.

[Robot Rock]

Bouknight’s best comparison is Beal.

[Diop]

My best reminder for summer league perspective is that MKG still had the best debut game of any Charlotte team.

He looked like a superstar.

[wilson115]

He was on a collegiate level. He does need to tighten the handle to become that in the pros. The good news is we don’t need him to be that in year 1. Let’s allow him the time to develop.

Can't wait to see him next to LaMelo, Gordon, and especially Plumlee, guys who can spot and reward movement off-the-ball. Some more good and bad against the Raps.

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[fatlever]

God save us if bouk ever has to beat a double team in a real game.

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[GoBobs]

I don’t see a single nba player on the floor for us. We have 2 first round picks and a bunch of 2nd round guys including early 2nd rounders. We should be dominating.

We can say bad coaching, no pg, but if this group needs us to make excuses for them, it says something about them also.

Vern - no motor

Bouknight - only looks interested half the time, doesn’t play with any fire. I wouldn’t be upset if he gets cut tomorrow, also fire mitch

Kia - decent prospect but not ready, doesn’t play to his strengths

Thor - decent prospect but young

Scottie lewis - belongs in the g league

Richards - time to move on

Gello - terrible looking prospect but probably the mvp of this team, basically a PF that is 5 inches to short for the position, he is a poor mans post injury Larry Johnson

Is it to late to give Cody M his roster spot back?

Also fire mitch

[KembaWalker]

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if he just catches it and goes left hard instantly with the way his man is shading him he probably gets a dump off to Kai for a dunk
tf is he even going for

[BigSlam]

I don’t see a single nba player on the floor for us. We have 2 first round picks and a bunch of 2nd round guys including early 2nd rounders. We should be dominating.

We can say bad coaching, no pg, but if this group needs us to make excuses for them, it says something about them also.

Vern - no motor

Bouknight - only looks interested half the time, doesn’t play with any fire. I wouldn’t be upset if he gets cut tomorrow, also fire mitch

Kia - decent prospect but not ready, doesn’t play to his strengths

Thor - decent prospect but young

Scottie lewis - belongs in the g league

Richards - time to move on

Gello - terrible looking prospect but probably the mvp of this team, basically a PF that is 5 inches to short for the position, he is a poor mans post injury Larry Johnson

Is it to late to give Cody M his roster spot back?

Also fire mitch

Looks like Fats has a challenger for the title…

[vorbis]

I guess if the Hornets would just cut their most recent lottery pick before he plays in a single NBA game and fire the GM that just signed the coach to an extension, then they would really be on the right track.

[Roll Tide 09]

I don’t see a single nba player on the floor for us. We have 2 first round picks and a bunch of 2nd round guys including early 2nd rounders. We should be dominating.

We can say bad coaching, no pg, but if this group needs us to make excuses for them, it says something about them also.

Vern - no motor

Bouknight - only looks interested half the time, doesn’t play with any fire. I wouldn’t be upset if he gets cut tomorrow, also fire mitch

Kia - decent prospect but not ready, doesn’t play to his strengths

Thor - decent prospect but young

Scottie lewis - belongs in the g league

Richards - time to move on

Gello - terrible looking prospect but probably the mvp of this team, basically a PF that is 5 inches to short for the position, he is a poor mans post injury Larry Johnson

Is it to late to give Cody M his roster spot back?

Also fire mitch

I’m assuming this is sarcasm. No way are you serious.


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