Z-Rex: The Cody Zeller Thread

HornetJail · Post #541 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 3:00 am

Kemba: 19/7.5
Hendo: 17/4
Zeller: 11/6
Sessions: 11/5
MKG: 11/8
Biz: 7/8

Elden Payton · Post #542 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 3:02 am

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-baskbl/s ... l#conf.wki

Some context for people whinging about Cody Zeller's production this past season.

For starters look at how good that Indiana were both offensively and defensively as a team which he led and then check out the individual statistical rankings.

To start In terms of rebounding look at his numbers compared to Trevor Mbakwe who is considered to be a great rebounder by the media/fans/scouts.

In terms of points, blocks, efficiency and rebounding see where he stacks up in an elite conference and superior competition to Bennett who went #1, MAKE SURE you check mpg at the bottom at the end for further context.

TheKingofSting · Post #543 » by **TheKingofSting** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 3:05 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:What are some realistic numbers Cody could average as a rookie? Tyler averaged 8 and 6 as a rookie and he is better than him but I also realize whether we bring McBob back or not and whether Cody starts or not they may limit his minutes, nothing Dunlap like but rookies minutes are monitored pretty closely.

I know it is more fun to argue but I'd like to hear some more predictions..

I think Zeller averages 14.5/7.5

While were at it

Walker - 19/7.5
Henderson - 16.5/4
MKG - 13/7
Biyombo - 8/9

I can see that happen, he will at get at least 2 or 3 buckets a game on fastbreaks running the floor, he will go to the FT line some also, he may not even need to hit a lot of jumpers to average this.

Elden Payton · Post #544 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 3:16 am

I completely agree K2H.

The guy is like a magician with a new trick, just because he's got a fancy new ace up his sleeve it doesn't mean he has forgotten what got him to the big show.

countryboi · Post #545 » by **countryboi** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 4:24 am

Zeller avg 12 and 6.5

Post #546 » by **fatlever** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 4:39 am

if we sign hendo to a big deal and he comes back as the same player he has been the past 2 years (minus the 2 month contract push from last year) ie 14-15ppg and no improvement on 3pt range, handles or passing, we should be furious with him and cho.

James Gatz · Post #547 » by **James Gatz** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 4:42 am

fatlever wrote:if we sign hendo to a big deal and he comes back as the same player he has been the past 2 years (minus the 2 month contract push from last year) ie 14-15ppg and no improvement on 3pt range, handles or passing, we should be furious with him and cho.

What constitutes a big deal?

HornetJail · Post #548 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 4:45 am

James Gatz wrote:
fatlever wrote:if we sign hendo to a big deal and he comes back as the same player he has been the past 2 years (minus the 2 month contract push from last year) ie 14-15ppg and no improvement on 3pt range, handles or passing, we should be furious with him and cho.

What constitutes a big deal?

8-9M.

If he plays like he did in the lockout year, he's still worth the MLE at the very least.

James Gatz · Post #549 » by **James Gatz** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 4:46 am

I'd be upset if we paid over 7. I think something like 4/26 would be ideal.

JMAC3 · Post #550 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 5:52 am

I think Henderson should be viewed as a backup plan right now. I want to see us go balls to the wall and attempt to sign our top 5 free agent targets. If we miss on Jefferson and Mayo or whoever than I am fine resigning Hendo to a reasonable deal and going for more a tank season.

BUT........ my first option would be to try and land these guys and make a push for the playoffs while still having a nice core of young guys mixed in with guys in their mid to late 20's. I think as long as we are not signing guys in their 30's to to long contracts we can be considered a young and upcoming team with room for improvement.

This year has much more realistic free agent targets, whereas next year is full of superstars and restricted free agents coming off their rookie deals. This year is a year where many teams are going to be dumping players and simply ignoring free agency to tank, we should capitalize on having fewer teams to compete with these bigger name free agents.

SaiCLE · Post #551 » by **SaiCLE** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 10:09 am

Man Zeller Is so underrated on the GB, Smh.
Dude wasn't used right In college IMO. In a draft where everything Is fair gain, Zeller deserved to go top 5.

Snidely FC · Post #552 » by **Snidely FC** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 1:22 pm

My favorite NBA player of all-time: Bobby Jones. I'm hoping Cody Zeller brings the same brand of energy and athleticism to CHA.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OulWj-kiI6Y[/youtube]

MasterIchiro · Post #553 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 1:45 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I think Henderson should be viewed as a backup plan right now. I want to see us go balls to the wall and attempt to sign our top 5 free agent targets. If we miss on Jefferson and Mayo or whoever than I am fine resigning Hendo to a reasonable deal and going for more a tank season.

BUT........ my first option would be to try and land these guys and make a push for the playoffs while still having a nice core of young guys mixed in with guys in their mid to late 20's. I think as long as we are not signing guys in their 30's to to long contracts we can be considered a young and upcoming team with room for improvement.

This year has much more realistic free agent targets, whereas next year is full of superstars and restricted free agents coming off their rookie deals. This year is a year where many teams are going to be dumping players and simply ignoring free agency to tank, we should capitalize on having fewer teams to compete with these bigger name free agents.

I'm all in for Al Jefferson and O.J. Mayo. It's not like we're getting stuck with old players or bad contracts that can't be moved. Those guys would be team leaders, get lots of looks and see their stats rise. If they come here they can raise their profile to scouts around the league. I do not like next year's free agent class at all and I don't think we can rely on one high pick player from 2014 either. We have hedged our bets with the DET and POR picks.

Badd_Intentions · Post #554 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 2:21 pm

OJ Mayo? a possible team leader? I wouldn't bet a cent on that.

Badd_Intentions · Post #555 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 2:26 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Kemba: 19/7.5
Hendo: 17/4
Zeller: 11/6
Sessions: 11/5
MKG: 11/8
Biz: 7/8

i'll take a stab

Kemba 18/6.5
Hendo 16/4
Zeller 14/7
Sessions 12/4
MKG 11/7
Biz 7/8

amcoolio · Post #556 » by **amcoolio** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 4:27 pm

If we stand pat in free agency, Zeller can average 15 easy. He'll be the #1 option of offense and a starter.

Depending on minutes, (I'm going to say he gets 26 minutes a game) he'll get around 6 boards.

15/6 is not a bad rookie season for Zeller.

Post #557 » by **fatlever** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 4:30 pm

bret jensen spent all morning on WFNZ on a zeller witch hunt. really annoying.

Fred Williamson · Post #558 » by **Fred Williamson** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 11:09 pm

kid gets way too much hate IMO

TheKingofSting · Post #559 » by **TheKingofSting** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:07 am

fatlever wrote:bret jensen spent all morning on WFNZ on a zeller witch hunt. really annoying.

They love to talk trash about the Bobcats, and mock Cho and believe and put Sheridan on a pedestal etc. I will not be listening to that station to say the least.

RUN_DMSKI · Post #560 » by **RUN_DMSKI** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:11 am

Aside from Taylor Z, no one on FNZ has any credibility. They're all very painful to listen to.