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Post#561 » by catch20two » Sat May 18, 2013 8:56 pm

thruthefire wrote:The MLE is $5.15 million for non-tax teams, right? Redick will be offered at least that for sure, and likely from several teams.

A team would have to be either overtly desperate for 3-point shooting or dumb to give Redick the full MLE after seeing how he played with Milwaukee. I wouldn't offer Redick over $4 million and Hendo over $7 million.
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Post#562 » by thruthefire » Sat May 18, 2013 9:54 pm

Actually, Redick did pretty well in Milwaukee considering that he only shot 31.8% from three. Obviously, it's unlikely that a career 39% shooter is going to struggle like that over an entire season. He's also a surprisingly good pick-and-roll player.
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Post#563 » by catch20two » Sat May 18, 2013 10:41 pm

thruthefire wrote:Actually, Redick did pretty well in Milwaukee considering that he only shot 31.8% from three. Obviously, it's unlikely that a career 39% shooter is going to struggle like that over an entire season. He's also a surprisingly good pick-and-roll player.

A one-dimensional player that's only known for his perimeter shooting shoots way below his career numbers in Milwaukee and he did well?!? Solid 8-)
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Post#564 » by thruthefire » Sat May 18, 2013 11:18 pm

In one thread you're telling me Klay Thompson isn't one-dimensional and now you're calling JJ Redick one-dimensional? Clearly you missed the point anyway.

Most teams are not going to decide to pay Redick or not based on what he did in 28 games with that mess of a team in Milwaukee. But the fact that he averaged 12.3 points and had a .529 TS% with the Bucks despite shooting so poorly from three should provide more optimism than pessimism. He's clearly capable of scoring inside the arc, and he can actually pass and handle. His three-point shot will likely return to his arsenal next season.
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Post#565 » by catch20two » Sat May 18, 2013 11:50 pm

thruthefire wrote:In one thread you're telling me Klay Thompson isn't one-dimensional and now you're calling JJ Redick one-dimensional? Clearly you missed the point anyway.

Most teams are not going to decide to pay Redick or not based on what he did in 28 games with that mess of a team in Milwaukee. But the fact that he averaged 12.3 points and had a .529 TS% with the Bucks despite shooting so poorly from three should provide more optimism than pessimism. He's clearly capable of scoring inside the arc, and he can actually pass and handle. His three-point shot will likely return to his arsenal next season.


If a career 41% 3-point shooting Klay Thompson got traded and started shooting sub 33% from beyond the arc I would tell you that he's struggling. The 3-point shot is Thompson's bread & butter the same way it is J.J. Redick's. Shooting .529 TS% is slightly below league average. You're entitled to your opinion that Redick played well in Milwaukee but most would disagree. That's the reason why the Bucks aren't likely to bring him back after trading valuable young assets for him.

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How much would you pay Hendo?
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Post#566 » by JT2006 » Sun May 19, 2013 12:01 am

thruthefire wrote:In one thread you're telling me Klay Thompson isn't one-dimensional and now you're calling JJ Redick one-dimensional?

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Post#567 » by catch20two » Sun May 19, 2013 12:14 am

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thruthefire wrote:In one thread you're telling me Klay Thompson isn't one-dimensional and now you're calling JJ Redick one-dimensional?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Since you two want to make a joke out of nothing then I'm willing to answer the bluff. Find where I said that Klay Thompson wasn't one-dimensional. I said that Thompson is capable of putting the ball on the floor and creating his own shot but never did I state that he's not currently a one-dimensional player. Thank you.
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Post#568 » by thruthefire » Sun May 19, 2013 12:43 am

catch20two wrote:You're entitled to your opinion that Redick played well in Milwaukee but most would disagree.


I never actually said that, though. All I said was the rest of his game outside of shooting threes was fine, and that his poor three-point shooting shouldn't be a concern since it was only over 28 games. If I were a contending team, I'd offer him $5.15 million.

I've maintained up to $8 million would be fair for Hendo. No reason to change course now, I don't think.
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Post#569 » by JT2006 » Sun May 19, 2013 4:28 am

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thruthefire wrote:In one thread you're telling me Klay Thompson isn't one-dimensional and now you're calling JJ Redick one-dimensional?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Since you two want to make a joke out of nothing then I'm willing to answer the bluff. Find where I said that Klay Thompson wasn't one-dimensional. I said that Thompson is capable of putting the ball on the floor and creating his own shot but never did I state that he's not currently a one-dimensional player. Thank you.

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Post#570 » by Radu_Hornets » Sun May 26, 2013 9:17 pm

If we draft Maclemore or Oladipo... Does it mean we'll let Henderson go ...?
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Post#571 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun May 26, 2013 9:34 pm

Radu_Bobcats wrote:If we draft Maclemore or Oladipo... Does it mean we'll let Henderson go ...?

I don't think drafting either Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo spells the end for Gerald Henderson in Charlotte. Actually I think the idea of possibly drafting McLemore or Oladipo is Rich Cho's way of not throwing caution to the wind and risking the chance that Henderson might receive a offer sheet from another team that they won't be willing to match. Without a doubt in my mind, Henderson will return next year if nobody makes a drastic offer above $7 million annually. If Henderson returns and Cho does happen to draft one of McLemore or Oladipo, I believe the rookie would come off the bench the first year.
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Post#572 » by Radu_Hornets » Sun May 26, 2013 10:18 pm

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Radu_Bobcats wrote:If we draft Maclemore or Oladipo... Does it mean we'll let Henderson go ...?

I don't think drafting either Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo spells the end for Gerald Henderson in Charlotte. Actually I think the idea of possibly drafting McLemore or Oladipo is Rich Cho's way of not throwing caution to the wind and risking the chance that Henderson might receive a offer sheet from another team that they won't be willing to match. Without a doubt in my mind, Henderson will return next year if nobody makes a drastic offer above $7 million annually. If Henderson returns and Cho does happen to draft one of McLemore or Oladipo, I believe the rookie would come off the bench the first year.


I hope you're right !
Even if Kemba became the fce of the franchise in less than 2 years. Henderson is the older player that was drafted by the cats and I'd want him to stay.
I liked the way Hendo played this year, liked the 3 point improvement, liked the mentality.
And I believe he'd like to stay in Charlotte and take part in the "Hornets" challenge of being a respected franchise.
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Post#573 » by Elden Payton » Mon May 27, 2013 1:23 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Radu_Bobcats wrote:If we draft Maclemore or Oladipo... Does it mean we'll let Henderson go ...?

I don't think drafting either Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo spells the end for Gerald Henderson in Charlotte. Actually I think the idea of possibly drafting McLemore or Oladipo is Rich Cho's way of not throwing caution to the wind and risking the chance that Henderson might receive a offer sheet from another team that they won't be willing to match. Without a doubt in my mind, Henderson will return next year if nobody makes a drastic offer above $7 million annually. If Henderson returns and Cho does happen to draft one of McLemore or Oladipo, I believe the rookie would come off the bench the first year.


Sounds like straight from Rich Cho's mind.

I think they will do this also.
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Post#574 » by Radu_Hornets » Fri May 31, 2013 10:02 pm

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Post#575 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri May 31, 2013 11:35 pm

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I wonder how the negotiation talks are going for Henderson's contract extension, and if it bothers him that Charlotte has been linked to drafting a SG in a quite a few mock drafts
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Post#576 » by Logander » Sat Jun 1, 2013 1:20 am

Well if we get McLemore and he pans out like hes supposed to that would still leave Hendo to be our definitive sixth man. He could split minutes with MKG and McLemore which would be totally awesome. I really want to add that I loved how much improvement Hendo had this year. I honestly think if he improves his 3-point shooting then he would be the ultimate package.
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Post#577 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Jun 1, 2013 1:28 am

I could easily see Henderson continuing to start while McLemore comes off the bench for a couple years.
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Post#578 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:04 pm

Decisions, Decisions - Odds of Bobcats Bringing Back...

Gerald Henderson: This is without question the most intriguing/debateable free agent that will be up for grabs come July 1. Hendo has a qualifying offer worth approximately $4.5 million, but it’s almost certain that there will be a team that offers more than $5mil/year — the ultimate question is where exactly Hendo’s market value is going to fall.

He finished the season very strong — Hendo averaged 18.9 PPG & 4 RPG after the all-star break (30 games). This is a classic case of a player over-achieving towards the end of his contract in search of a fat new deal, but was Hendo’s late season performance as much of a smokescreen as it seems? That’s what GM’s around the league must ask themselves and the majority opinion to that question will give us Hendo’s market value.

I’d venture to guess that if that number grows greater than $6mil annually, Charlotte will elect to let him walk. It shouldn’t be forgotten that Cho did try to trade Hendo at the trade deadline for a package that included the names J.J. Hickson & Timofey Mosgov.

– 50% probability Henderson signs a new contract with Charlotte.

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Post#579 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:48 pm

If Charlotte isn't willing to pay Henderson more than 6 million they're stupid. 7 million sounds more appropriate.
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Post#580 » by Marvel » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:31 pm

Saying it now. Hendo is going to lead this team into the new Hornets era and sooner than you think, into the playoffs. His improvement last season was impressive. You can see the little improvements he's made over the last 2-3 seasons. He's developing a post game, catch and shoot game is still solid, he's attacking hard in transition, drawing fouls and getting to the line, his passing game has improved, he can score off the dribble - love that drive right and fadeaway jumper along the baseline he's developed(Kobe - MJ like). He's becoming a true all around offensive threat, if he continues to improve his 3pt shooting...lookout.

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