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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#561 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:40 pm

I still want Jordan Hamilton.

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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#562 » by JDR720 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:45 pm

Chris Douglas-Roberts
Josh McRoberts (P)
Jannero Pargo
Luke Ridnour
Anthony Tolliver
D.J. White

These are our Free Agents, we have 6 total,we will have 9 players under contract + 2 rookies = 11 players, we will bring in 4 FA's to make 15 players under contract, im guessing 2 of those players are CDR and McBob so we will bring in 2 new FA's for a total of 4 new players (2 FA's + 2 rooks)

if McBob comes back we have 17mill in cap (Player option), we will spend that 17 million on 3 players + 2 rookies, those 2 rookies will cost about 2 million combined, then we have 15 mill to spend on 3 players, 2 mill to CDR, we now have 13 million to spend on 2 players
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#563 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:46 pm

Sign Lance Stephenson to a 2-year/$20 million deal with the 2nd year a 'team option'?

Less risk

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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#564 » by JDR720 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:53 pm

we can go 1 of two ways to spend that 13 million on two players

Option 1 - We sign 1 bench warmer + an expensive player
Option 2-We sign 2 players of equal value at around 6.5 million
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#565 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:03 pm

JDR720 wrote:we can go 1 of two ways to spend that 13 million on two players

Option 1 - We sign 1 bench warmer + an expensive player
Option 2-We sign 2 players of equal value at around 6.5 million


I'm more concerned with the length of the contract than the price. I doubt the league will be handing out any amnesty provisions for teams that make mistakes within this to the next decade

With that said, I would choose 'Option 2' if I had a gun to my head today, and didn't know the circumstance of how much market value Gordon Hayward or Lance Stephenson would dictate

Quality depth is more of a problem than Henderson's lack of being a dependable 3rd scorer. That's why Charlotte's starting unit has been one of the more successful in the league, but the bench hasn't been
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#566 » by Fred Williamson » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:10 am

I'm not sure if quality depth is more of a concern than a reliable 2nd/3rd option. Maybe we should define "quality depth" first but IMO a bench with "all-around" guys can easily be compiled, much easier than finding a good 2nd/3rd option.

But as Swedd and some other guys have already mentioned, I'm tired of the quantity approach, I'm tired of "all around" guys who occasionally show up and play great defense, hit a crucial shot, make a great play, but then go back to their mediocre self in the next games. I want a guy that is always there and can take over when Kemba is off again. Someone who is constantly a threat and other teams HAVE to worry about. Not a guy like Hendo, McRoberts or CDR who other teams probably not even have a gameplan against, because these guys suck so much.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#567 » by Diop » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:27 am

I can see the team chasing Deng hard. I don't think I like it.
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Post#568 » by chrbal » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:46 pm

I guess if they gave up on the 20 year old MKG. But Deng at one wing and MKG on the other would be terrible for floor spacing.

I think that they should chase hard after Afflalo. I think its a really good fit for both sides.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#569 » by JDR720 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:49 pm

chrbal wrote:I guess if they gave up on the 20 year old MKG. But Deng at one wing and MKG on the other would be terrible for floor spacing.

I think that they should chase hard after Afflalo. I think its a really good fit for both sides.

we would have to trade for Afflalo tho, we tried during the regular season but they wanted to much
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Post#570 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:02 pm

I still like the idea of trading for Jeff Green, probably even more than trading for Arron Afflalo, and not because I think Green is a better player than Afflalo, but because Green is such a versatile player that he could fulfill a lot of Charlotte's depth woes in one single swoop. Green is capable of playing SG, SF, and PF effectively which is all positions of some concern respectively when it come to depth and scoring
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Post#571 » by BeesWax » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:34 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:I still like the idea of trading for Jeff Green, probably even more than trading for Arron Afflalo, and not because I think Green is a better player than Afflalo, but because Green is such a versatile player that he could fulfill a lot of Charlotte's depth woes in one single swoop. Green is capable of playing SG, SF, and PF effectively which is all positions of some concern respectively when it come to depth and scoring

If we could unload Henrderson i the deal and draft a SG too I would not mind adding Green. I just want to coserve some cap space to try to really improve. I think Green is better than Affalo. Afflalo had one good year and other than that Green has had a better career and is a little younger.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#572 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:41 pm

jdm3 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:I still like the idea of trading for Jeff Green, probably even more than trading for Arron Afflalo, and not because I think Green is a better player than Afflalo, but because Green is such a versatile player that he could fulfill a lot of Charlotte's depth woes in one single swoop. Green is capable of playing SG, SF, and PF effectively which is all positions of some concern respectively when it come to depth and scoring

If we could unload Henrderson i the deal and draft a SG too I would not mind adding Green. I just want to coserve some cap space to try to really improve. I think Green is better than Affalo. Afflalo had one good year and other than that Green has had a better career and is a little younger.


I believe Henderson would have to be a part of the deal if Charlotte trade for Green, otherwise it would be null & void
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#573 » by BigSlam » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:32 pm

I'd rather Gerald Green than Jeff Green.
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Post#574 » by catch20two » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:39 pm

Jeff Green could be a great 6th man for us. He's like a swiss army pocket knife, can do a little bit of everything and play a lot of positions.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#575 » by BigSlam » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:42 pm

catch20two wrote:Jeff Green could be a great 6th man for us. He's like a swiss army pocket knife, can do a little bit of everything and play a lot of positions.

$9 mil a year for three years for a 6th man/swiss army pocket knife is WAY too much scratch IMO.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#576 » by catch20two » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:52 pm

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catch20two wrote:Jeff Green could be a great 6th man for us. He's like a swiss army pocket knife, can do a little bit of everything and play a lot of positions.

$9 mil a year for three years for a 6th man/swiss army pocket knife is WAY too much scratch IMO.

Actually only 2 years would be left on his contract after this season, the same as Hendo. If we can trade Hendo for Green I'm all for it. If we're just going to absorb Green's contract almost like signing him as a free agent with our cap space then hell no I wouldn't do it.
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2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#577 » by Logander » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:53 pm

Has anyone talked about Greg Monroe yet? The dude is like Al Jefferson Jr, he's almost averaging a double double and he plays a very identical post game to Big Al.If we had Monroe we would own the paint on offense plain and simple, and there's no way the guy is going to accept a contract after this year with the Pistons. We should be making this guy our number 1 target in the offseason imo. Thoughts?

Edit: I was trying to link highlight videos but my phone is screwing up unfortunately.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#578 » by JDR720 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:58 pm

Logander wrote:Has anyone talked about Greg Monroe yet? The dude is like Al Jefferson Jr, he's almost averaging a double double and he plays a very identical post game to Big Al.If we had Monroe we would own the paint on offense plain and simple, and there's no way the guy is going to accept a contract after this year with the Pistons. We should be making this guy our number 1 target in the offseason imo. Thoughts?

Edit: I was trying to link highlight videos but my phone is screwing up unfortunately.

He and Al can't coexist i think, they are both bad defenders and Monroe and Al both score in the paint for almost all of their offense mainly from the post, it was hard enough learning to play with 1 low post scorer let alone 2
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Post#579 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:02 pm

Logander wrote:Has anyone talked about Greg Monroe yet? The dude is like Al Jefferson Jr, he's almost averaging a double double and he plays a very identical post game to Big Al.If we had Monroe we would own the paint on offense plain and simple, and there's no way the guy is going to accept a contract after this year with the Pistons. We should be making this guy our number 1 target in the offseason imo. Thoughts?

Edit: I was trying to link highlight videos but my phone is screwing up unfortunately.


It sound feasible, and despite Greg Monroe being a defensive liability he isn't too much less than Josh McRoberts (whom I happen to think is a solid but average defender), but the price tag is too high for Monroe. Charlotte would still have their #spacing issues magnified on top of not having the cap space to resolve them if they signed Monroe

I've mentioned it before, the less risky option that would make for a decent fit alongside Al Jefferson is Ed Davis
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Post#580 » by catch20two » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:04 pm

Logander wrote:Has anyone talked about Greg Monroe yet? The dude is like Al Jefferson Jr, he's almost averaging a double double and he plays a very identical post game to Big Al.If we had Monroe we would own the paint on offense plain and simple, and there's no way the guy is going to accept a contract after this year with the Pistons. We should be making this guy our number 1 target in the offseason imo. Thoughts?

Edit: I was trying to link highlight videos but my phone is screwing up unfortunately.

Oh no. Our spacing issues would be worst than the Pistons' this past year and their's was bad. Not to mention we would become less of defensive team under Monroe's lazy ass next to Jefferson. I doubt my eyes could take so many watched layups. I've never seen a guy as big as Monroe so inept at blocking or even altering shots.
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