BrandHIM Miller: The Brandon Miller Thread

[luciano-davidwesley]

I will say it sounds like it’s more up in the air and that they’re speculating a little.

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So it's still up in the air but there is a lean to Miller according to Givony.

Whereas previously Miller was clear favourite on the night of the lottery.

Sounds like everything is still on the table and the Hornets are playing this as they should - with an open mind for all possibilities.

[JustBuzzin]

I will say it sounds like it’s more up in the air and that they’re speculating a little.

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So you didn't post the Woj part?

I get it you want Scoot, but don't try to ignore the obvious reports from the media about us favoring Miller.


For those who didn't know Woj said Brandon Miller will be the #2 pick put it in pencil.


Why would the most credible NBA reporter say this on live tv if he hasn't heard something from our front office?

[fatlever]

There's only one scenario where the Hornets being the source about drafting Miller makes any sense, and that's if Mitch was convinced the Blazers were in love with miller, the Hornets actually wanted to draft scoot, and we're trying to smoke screen the Blazers into trading up to number two so that we could fall back to 3 draft scoot while picking up an asset.

Otherwise, don't say anything and draft Miller when your time on the clock hits. Otherwise you run the risk of cutting off any offers that teams desperate for scoot would be making if they thought they needed to trade up to number two. If they were sold that the Hornets were drafting Miller they would just negotiate with the Blazers.

Or there is a mole/leak at lower levels, who if found out, is probably about to lose a job.



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[BeesWax]

I will say it sounds like it’s more up in the air and that they’re speculating a little.

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So you didn't post the Woj part?

I get it you want Scoot, but don't try to ignore the obvious reports from the media about us favoring Miller.


For those who didn't know Woj said Brandon Miller will be the #2 pick put it in pencil.


Why would the most credible NBA reporter say this on live tv if he hasn't heard something from our front office?

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Lets keep this in mind when we call him the be all end all in reporting. He guesses like everyone else and in order to get information I would assume he also does favors and reports what they ask at times too.

[dmutombo321]

Probably under 10 guys in the NBA 6-7 or taller who could pull these two moves off

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Tatum, Kawhi, Ingram, George, LeBron, Durant, Luka and Butler? Idk if I am missing anyone that size. Maybe it doesn’t translate for Miller, but this whole he can’t dribble stuff has gone way too far. Dude is a unicorn.

Totally agree. His ball handling is actually pretty solid for a dude his size. People talk like this guy is just a spot up shooter. He's going to have the ball in his hands making plays off the dribble at the NBA level. Alabama mainly used him coming off screens. They ran a system but when it was crunch time Miller would create off the dribble.

This is my hope. The fact the overwhelming majority of his offense at AL was generated from spot up shooting, 1-2 dribble jumpers and looks off screens is concerning. But if you look at his HS tape and some of the outlier clips Jmac has linked, it is encouraging and suggests he may have more in his bag with respect to shot creation and handle than he was regularly able to show at AL bc he was usually just playing his role in fitting in with the system.

I'm leaning slightly towards Miller but either are risky picks for different reasons.

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[Braggins]

To be fair some of the names at the bottom of the scoot list are honestly a bit ridiculous. Mudiay? Really? Fultz? To be fair has actually been a really good player for Orlando recently. But for him to fail on that level, would require a complete mental breakdown of his shot. Even the Dennis Smith Jr comp is a bit ridiculous. Having watched Dennis Smith all season, whom I love, it's pretty easy to tell that scoot is clearly a notch above Dennis in terms of actual basketball ability on the offensive side.

DSJ isn't even very good as a physical comparison. They might have similar burst/explosiveness, but Smith is 6'2" in shoes with a 6'3" wingspan, tiny hands, and wasn't nearly as strong/jacked as Scoot at the same age (example below). DSJ also had severe injury issues before and after being drafted and apparently developed the yips with his shooting the last few years. Scoot might be 6'3"+ in shoes and has a 6'9" wingspan and looks as jacked as a mini Lebron.

19 year old DSJ


19 year old Scoot



The Mudiay comp is really funny because 27 year old Mudiay played in the GLeague this season and Scoot basically had identical stats as a 19 year old.

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[JustBuzzin]

This is basketball muscles mean nothing.

Westbrook is jacked! He is one of the worst jump shooters in the league.

Scoot wins the physical appearance award. Miller wins the putting the ball in the hoop award.

You want Westbrook 2.0 or Danny Granger 2.0?

[Braggins]

Yeah, i defintely was bringing up Scoots strength because I thought it would make him a better jump shooter...

We seriously have people pretending like strength isn't relevant to basketball. The draft discourse on here has been so stupid. Probably gonna go back to sitting this out..

[KingCat]

Yeah, i defintely was bringing up Scoots strength because I thought it would make him a better jump shooter...

We seriously have people pretending like strength isn't relevant to basketball. The draft discourse on here has been so stupid. Probably gonna go back to sitting this out..

I've seen some all time ridiculous comments from both sides this draft period.

I think it's cause this is the first time we had a pick where the options are this narrow ans we are running out of topics to argue about.

[SWedd523]

Yeah, i defintely was bringing up Scoots strength because I thought it would make him a better jump shooter...

We seriously have people pretending like strength isn't relevant to basketball. The draft discourse on here has been so stupid. Probably gonna go back to sitting this out..

I've seen some all time ridiculous comments from both sides this draft period.

I think it's cause this is the first time we had a pick where the options are this narrow ans we are running out of topics to argue about.

Scoot is going to be Steph on HGH and Miller is going to be a healthy Paul George.

Can't lose at this point

[fatlever]

scoot's hand size is a tremendous asset. even more than his strength imo.

[GoBobs]

This is basketball muscles mean nothing.

Westbrook is jacked! He is one of the worst jump shooters in the league.

Scoot wins the physical appearance award. Miller wins the putting the ball in the hoop award.

You want Westbrook 2.0 or Danny Granger 2.0?

Strength is a huge advantage for the offensive player. Miles Bridges is a perfect example. It is hard to find somebody that can guard him with a live dribble that doesn't get bullied around the basket for a bunch of and 1 layups.

It is going to be the same deal with Scoot when he figures out how to use his size.

[Braggins]

Yeah, i defintely was bringing up Scoots strength because I thought it would make him a better jump shooter...

We seriously have people pretending like strength isn't relevant to basketball. The draft discourse on here has been so stupid. Probably gonna go back to sitting this out..

I've seen some all time ridiculous comments from both sides this draft period.

I think it's cause this is the first time we had a pick where the options are this narrow ans we are running out of topics to argue about.

I think the anti-Scoot stuff has been way worse, but my view might be skewed because I have been following the draft discussion in the draft subforum all season and there has been a specific poster trolling the Scoot discussion since like February.

Ive seen some bad pro Scoot arguments here, but I'm also seeing lots of pro Miller people getting mad at realistic praise for Scoot because they just refuse to believe that Scoot is as good as he is in some areas. If people are getting annoyed when someone calls Scoot an elite athlete, its not the pro Scoot person being wrong in that scenario.

Ive even been pretty disappointed in what I'm seeing from some of the pro Miller draft media crowd. I was really excited to hear Rafael Barlowe go on a Hornets podcast because I was hoping to get a good argument for Miller from him, but he mostly just made the same tired arguments about fit and then specifically criticized Scoot by questioning his ability as a finisher, which is silly because Scoots rim efficiency was nearly 20% better than Miller's in the halfcourt and 6% better overall, and he shot 48% on floaters... The whole time he was acting smug like the people that like Scoot are just caught up in the hype and have only seen his game vs Wemby.

This is definitely a whiny post, but oh well lol.

[JustBuzzin]

This is basketball muscles mean nothing.

Westbrook is jacked! He is one of the worst jump shooters in the league.

Scoot wins the physical appearance award. Miller wins the putting the ball in the hoop award.

You want Westbrook 2.0 or Danny Granger 2.0?

Strength is a huge advantage for the offensive player. Miles Bridges is a perfect example. It is hard to find somebody that can guard him with a live dribble that doesn't get bullied around the basket for a bunch of and 1 layups.

It is going to be the same deal with Scoot when he figures out how to use his size.

I understand that I said he is Westbrook 2.0.

It's just a preference on what kind of player you want.

[JustBuzzin]

Yeah, i defintely was bringing up Scoots strength because I thought it would make him a better jump shooter...

We seriously have people pretending like strength isn't relevant to basketball. The draft discourse on here has been so stupid. Probably gonna go back to sitting this out..

I've seen some all time ridiculous comments from both sides this draft period.

I think it's cause this is the first time we had a pick where the options are this narrow ans we are running out of topics to argue about.

I think the anti-Scoot stuff has been way worse, but my view might be skewed because I have been following the draft discussion in the draft subforum all season and there has been a specific poster trolling the Scoot discussion since like February.

Ive seen some bad pro Scoot arguments here, but I'm also seeing lots of pro Miller people getting mad at realistic praise for Scoot because they just refuse to believe that Scoot is as good as he is in some areas. If people are getting annoyed when someone calls Scoot an elite athlete, its not the pro Scoot person being wrong in that scenario.

Ive even been pretty disappointed in what I'm seeing from some of the pro Miller draft media crowd. I was really excited to hear Rafael Barlowe go on a Hornets podcast because I was hoping to get a good argument for Miller from him, but he mostly just made the same tired arguments about fit and then specifically criticized Scoot by questioning his ability as a finisher, which is silly because Scoots rim efficiency was nearly 20% better than Miller's in the halfcourt and 6% better overall, and he shot 48% on floaters... The whole time he was acting smug like the people that like Scoot are just caught up in the hype and have only seen his game vs Wemby.

This is definitely a whiny post, but oh well lol.

You literally got people saying Scoot is Curry on HGH.

I think both sides have their crazy predictions.

[JustBuzzin]

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I notice on their social media Brandon Miller IG is all basketball. Scoot on the other hand is more brand and endorsements focused.


Miller seems more of a pure basketball junkie.

[KingCat]

I notice on their social media Brandon Miller IG is all basketball. Scoot on the other hand is more brand and endorsements focused.


Miller seems more of a pure basketball junkie.

That's interesting. I was watching ESPN today and saw a promotion for the draft featuring Wemby, Scoot, the Thompson, and I think Whitmore. No sign of Miller.

Also despite being considered thr 2nd best player this draft by many, he barely has a hype train around him especially in comparison to Scoot and Wemby.

I'm guessing Ja's moronics really scared the NBA world and entities like ESPN are being weary of building up Miller.

[BeesWax]

I notice on their social media Brandon Miller IG is all basketball. Scoot on the other hand is more brand and endorsements focused.


Miller seems more of a pure basketball junkie.

That's interesting. I was watching ESPN today and saw a promotion for the draft featuring Wemby, Scoot, the Thompson, and I think Whitmore. No sign of Miller.

Also despite being considered thr 2nd best player this draft by many, he barely has a hype train around him especially in comparison to Scoot and Wemby.

I'm guessing Ja's moronics really scared the NBA world and entities like ESPN are being weary of building up Miller.

Also seems kind of off since Scoot is considered a gym rat type of person. I think both are big basketball guys but Miller has been tied to a murder so maybe trying to keep off the court stuff down for now. I mean he had a solid NIL deal last year but I don't know how the murder played with that.

[JustBuzzin]

I notice on their social media Brandon Miller IG is all basketball. Scoot on the other hand is more brand and endorsements focused.


Miller seems more of a pure basketball junkie.

That's interesting. I was watching ESPN today and saw a promotion for the draft featuring Wemby, Scoot, the Thompson, and I think Whitmore. No sign of Miller.

Also despite being considered thr 2nd best player this draft by many, he barely has a hype train around him especially in comparison to Scoot and Wemby.

I'm guessing Ja's moronics really scared the NBA world and entities like ESPN are being weary of building up Miller.

He has no hype train because his name was in a murder case just a few months ago.

You think the NBA going to market him right now with what's going on with Ja and his gun situation?

The fact that he is projected to go #2 should tell you all you need to know about his game. Even without a hype train draft scouts still think he is the 2nd best player in this draft. Sheesh!