The Mike Dunlap Thread

Elden Payton · Post #581 » by **Elden Payton** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:15 am

James Gatz wrote:Penquin I want to read what your posting but whenever I see that wall of text I immediately skip right past it. Try breaking it up into paragraphs.

Read it and you'll learn something :wink:

Nanogeek · Post #582 » by **Nanogeek** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:31 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:Do you guys ever get tired of crying? I declare. You guys whine more than my eight year old daughter. We are a bad team. We don't have a true franchise player. We have a roster made up of mostly kids, and the vets are over the hill. It may take a while for this team to get anywhere. I don't think the plan was ever to be good before 2015, and that's if we had gotten Captain Unibrow. So why are you guys suprised when we get blown out? Even the good teams get blown out every once and a while.

So you are crying about people crying? I don't judge anyone's crying on this board given the utter debacle this team has been for the last decade. I don't think the plan was ever to break the futility record 7-8 years after the franchise was created, squander draft picks, etc. The wide-eyed optimism of hoping Felton, May, Ammo, DJ, Ajinca, Okafor, etc. would develop into decent basketball players for us has worn down on people as its been proven misplaced time and time again. And now Biyombo is the latest. The botched picks, the absurd trades (we actually traded for Diop, Thomas, etc.) People have plenty of reasons to cry. Let them do so. If you don't want to cry then fine - don't. But don't cry about people crying. Because you are still crying.

penquin11 · Post #583 » by **penquin11** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:44 pm

The thing I will say about Biyombo is I liked the pick in that it was a risk. I don't like the fact that they didn't have much info on him before he was drafted, that peeves me, but at least we didn't try to play it safe and draft like we always do.

BobsBuddy · Post #584 » by **BobsBuddy** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:25 pm

I suspect that Coach Dunlap has been communicated with about 1st,2nd and 3rd year goals for this team. If he doesn't get 20 wins this season he probably won't be fired unless he starts next year 5-20.But by 2015 if hes not at 41-41 he will be gone. Otherwise I think we should stay with this guy and Cho's building plan.

SWedd523 · Post #585 » by **SWedd523** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:15 pm

Nanogeek wrote:
MountBiyombo wrote:Do you guys ever get tired of crying? I declare. You guys whine more than my eight year old daughter. We are a bad team. We don't have a true franchise player. We have a roster made up of mostly kids, and the vets are over the hill. It may take a while for this team to get anywhere. I don't think the plan was ever to be good before 2015, and that's if we had gotten Captain Unibrow. So why are you guys suprised when we get blown out? Even the good teams get blown out every once and a while.

So you are crying about people crying? I don't judge anyone's crying on this board given the utter debacle this team has been for the last decade. I don't think the plan was ever to break the futility record 7-8 years after the franchise was created, squander draft picks, etc. The wide-eyed optimism of hoping Felton, May, Ammo, DJ, Ajinca, Okafor, etc. would develop into decent basketball players for us has worn down on people as its been proven misplaced time and time again. And now Biyombo is the latest. The botched picks, the absurd trades (we actually traded for Diop, Thomas, etc.) People have plenty of reasons to cry. Let them do so. If you don't want to cry then fine - don't. But don't cry about people crying. Because you are still crying.

So you are crying about people crying about people crying?

I don't judge anyone's crying about crying on this board given the utter debacle this team has been for the last decade. People have plenty of reasons to cry about people crying. Let them do so. If you don't want to cry about people crying then fine - don't. But don't cry about people crying about people crying. Because you are still crying.

Nanogeek · Post #586 » by **Nanogeek** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:29 pm

SWedd523 wrote:So you are crying about people crying about people crying?

I don't judge anyone's crying about crying on this board given the utter debacle this team has been for the last decade. People have plenty of reasons to cry about people crying. Let them do so. If you don't want to cry about people crying then fine - don't. But don't cry about people crying about people crying. Because you are still crying.

You apparently missed the nuance.

HornetJail · Post #587 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:29 pm

cryception

Elden Payton · Post #588 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:06 am

Nanogeek wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:So you are crying about people crying about people crying?

I don't judge anyone's crying about crying on this board given the utter debacle this team has been for the last decade. People have plenty of reasons to cry about people crying. Let them do so. If you don't want to cry about people crying then fine - don't. But don't cry about people crying about people crying. Because you are still crying.

You apparently missed the nuance.

You apparently missed the fact he got it.

thruthefire · Post #589 » by **thruthefire** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:39 am

Five-on-four, Dunlap decides to call a timeout. What is wrong with this guy?

catch20two · Post #590 » by **catch20two** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:39 am

thruthefire wrote:Five-on-four, Dunlap decides to call a timeout. What is wrong with this guy?

Timeouts are a huge part of his tanking strategy. That's the moment when he take the time to corrupt the Bobcats' players minds with meaningless jibber jabber. Seriously, no green font.

doc.end · Post #591 » by **doc.end** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:08 am

If anyone had enough info on Bismack it was Cho. Trips to Europe and all.

Snidely FC · Post #592 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Apr 6, 2013 4:42 pm

From Marc Stein's "Weekend Dime"

Could Mike Dunlap actually be a victim of his own success?

Let me rephrase that: Could the Bobcats' inability to build off a 7-5 start no one saw coming, descending instead into a nosedive that has parked them for months in the bottom-two dungeon of ESPN.com's weekly NBA Power Rankings amid the predictable whispers about how resistant Charlotte's vets are to a rookie coach branded as a college guy, cost Dunlap his job after just one season?

I really didn't think so, but more than one source consulted this week identified Dunlap as a coach in potential jeopardy, which undoubtedly stems from Michael Jordan's recent proclamation to a group of season-ticket holders that major offseason changes are coming in Charlotte. I'm just not quite sure how much more Dunlap -- who was hired, remember, for his rep in player development -- was supposed to get out of a group that still needs lots of developing. Lots.

amcoolio · Post #593 » by **amcoolio** » Sat Apr 6, 2013 5:30 pm

I still maintain that if Bernard Bickerstaff were coaching they'd have at least 25 wins. This roster is still much better than the expansion year roster.

Post #594 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Apr 6, 2013 7:20 pm

amcoolio wrote:I still maintain that if Bernard Bickerstaff were coaching they'd have at least 25 wins. This roster is still much better than the expansion year roster.

The rest of the league is better now than they were then as well.

Liver_Pooty · Post #595 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Apr 6, 2013 10:03 pm

If we reach 20 wins his job should be safe.

vorbis · Post #596 » by **vorbis** » Sat Apr 6, 2013 10:40 pm

as long as he can commit to consistent playing time for the young players next season, i don't see the harm in giving him a 2nd season no matter what the win total at the end of this year is. i understand wanting a scapegoat for a **** season, but it's not like there were big plans for 13/14 season anyways.

Post #597 » by **fatlever** » Sat Apr 6, 2013 10:46 pm

i am willing to give dunlap a 2nd season, mainly because i think he is good for the young guys and does do a lot of teaching to improve them individually. but, he really needs to show more as an in-game coach. its getting frustrating to watch him get outcoached on a regular basis. its not that i expect more wins, in fact we are about where i predicted we would be in terms of wins. however, there are certain basic in-game adjustments that seem blatantly obvious to everyone but him.

for example, last night vs the heat (missing wade and lebron). it was clear they were only going to be able to beat us by making a ton of threes and bosh. yet we continued to leave their shooters wide open to double off guys that werent bosh. the other glaring adjustment that he failed to make was kemba in the pick and roll. hubie harped on this a bunch in the 2nd half. they were ignoring the roll man and doubling kemba and kemba couldnt deal with it. yet we kept running the same plays over and over. it was a bit absurd.

Elden Payton · Post #598 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Apr 7, 2013 12:07 am

I think it really depends on who is available imo.

Doug Collins could be a casualty in Philly and we would naturally have some interest.

Eoghan · Post #599 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Apr 7, 2013 1:24 am

Didn't Doug Collins wear out his welcome in DC when MJ was there?

Anyway, I'm not too crazy about any coaches out there right now, just let the tankmaster carry out his contract I guess.

-Ian- · Post #600 » by **-Ian-** » Sun Apr 7, 2013 1:45 am

We really want our coaching situation to become a revolving door, huh?

I doubt if Jerry Sloan could win 25 games with this team. And I also doubt if an established head coach would want to come here in this type of situation.