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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#581 » by BlackOutBuzz » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:05 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:ESPN's Jay Williams thinks McLemore will be a legit 2 at the pro level to watch for years. I tend to agree I think when workouts etc. and everything is all said and done that McLemore will be the #1 pick in this upcoming draft. They said his ankle turn was nasty and I see that after seeing the pic above, it will be a day or two depending on how it swells before they can x-ray it I think.


But does he have D Wade potential?

I do like the kid, maybe not as much as Bazz but I think he's definitely put himself in that top 3-5 players.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#582 » by TheKingofSting » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:28 am

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Kemba2Hendo wrote:ESPN's Jay Williams thinks McLemore will be a legit 2 at the pro level to watch for years. I tend to agree I think when workouts etc. and everything is all said and done that McLemore will be the #1 pick in this upcoming draft. They said his ankle turn was nasty and I see that after seeing the pic above, it will be a day or two depending on how it swells before they can x-ray it I think.


But does he have D Wade potential?

I do like the kid, maybe not as much as Bazz but I think he's definitely put himself in that top 3-5 players.


I will say this much, I like him more than Beal. :o
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#583 » by MPM » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:27 am

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MPM wrote:Guys - keep in mind that Bazz is shooting 45% from the three this year. He can shoot. McLemore 43%. MKG shot 25% at Kentucky.

I'm very high on Bazz.

Not to get down on him but that percentage is inflated. I'd be really surprised to see it at that point come seasons end.


Time will tell, but shooting/stretching the floor isn't a big concern of mine with Bazz. He shoots around three 3's a game, has a nice stroke, and opposing teams game plan for him, so he isn't getting regular wide open looks. I agree he'll likely tail off a bit (tough to shoot 45% for season), but if not it will solidify my Bazz love. As others have mentioned, my concern with him is one-dimensionality, which has me keeping an eye on McLemore (who despite the turned ankle had a great all around game last night).
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#584 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:38 pm

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
BlackOutBobcat wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:ESPN's Jay Williams thinks McLemore will be a legit 2 at the pro level to watch for years. I tend to agree I think when workouts etc. and everything is all said and done that McLemore will be the #1 pick in this upcoming draft. They said his ankle turn was nasty and I see that after seeing the pic above, it will be a day or two depending on how it swells before they can x-ray it I think.


But does he have D Wade potential?

I do like the kid, maybe not as much as Bazz but I think he's definitely put himself in that top 3-5 players.


I will say this much, I like him more than Beal. :o


Never thought I'd hear you say that. ;)
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#585 » by countryboi » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:46 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzufDLiYTNc&list=UURUErR61S_Fl8AFMdRtJ6kw&index=4[/youtube]

pretty stroke...thats my favorite part of his game. still not a fan he seems like a bradley beal clone
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#586 » by JT2006 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:53 pm

he's much less boring to talk about than beal. with beal, all he had was good shooting and being short to talk about
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#587 » by James Gatz » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:58 pm

JT2006 wrote:he's much less boring to talk about than beal. with beal, all he had was good shooting and being short to talk about

I'd be happy with a taller Beal in our lineup. I'm leaning towards him and Shabazz as guys I want the most.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#588 » by Eoghan » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:52 pm

When everybody was throwing around the Ray Allen comparison with Beal last year, I was like "wtf?" I actually see some Jesus Shuttlesworth in McLemore.
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Post#589 » by James Gatz » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:28 am

I actually see some Jesus Shuttlesworth in McLemore.


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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#590 » by Nanogeek » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:33 am

McElmore looks like a mid-lottery pick to me. If we are picking in the top 3 I'd expect we'd go for Muhammad if we go backcourt or Zeller/Len in the front court.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#591 » by catch20two » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:40 am

I still want Nerlens Noel over Ben McLemore and anybody not named Shabazz Muhammad. He's a true defensive force unlike our project, Bismack Biyombo. Noel posted 12 points (5-7), 9 rebounds, 6 blocks, and 4 steals tonight. His defensive stats be almost unreal and marveling considering the fact that he's living up to his billing as a top notch defensive player not only from the eye test but in the stat sheet every game.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#592 » by fatlever » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:53 am

its my preference to go big with our next pick, if all things are remotely equal. bazz and mclemore might help our scoring, but we arent going anywhere until we get some competent bigs on this roster and not just one or two, we need like four. we arent going to find good bigs in free agency w/out paying through the roof.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#593 » by Eoghan » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:58 am

Nanogeek wrote:McElmore looks like a mid-lottery pick to me. If we are picking in the top 3 I'd expect we'd go for Muhammad if we go backcourt or Zeller/Len in the front court.

Mid-lottery!?!? Can you name some guys you'd definitively take before him?

fatlever wrote:its my preference to go big with our next pick, if all things are remotely equal. bazz and mclemore might help our scoring, but we arent going anywhere until we get some competent bigs on this roster and not just one or two, we need like four. we arent going to find good bigs in free agency w/out paying through the roof.

Well, the problem is it doesn't look like there are any good bigs in this draft, at least none that will be NBA ready in the next couple of years. Noel has the highest ceiling with his great athleticism but I still think he projects more to an NBA 4 since he has trouble banging with guys bigger than he is now. Cauley-Stein is arguably the best traditional center on UK now but probably won't be a game-changer. Austin is an anorexic Chandler Frye. Adams is a bigger, Kiwi version of Biz. Zeller can only beast on guys slower and less athletic than he is, those guys become much scarcer at the next level and he's probably better suited as a 4 also. Gobert is as big around as a crepe and foreign so slow development curve there. Len is honestly just not that good, a capable, borderline starter worthy guy at best. Not worth a top 5 pick at all IMO.

This is precisely why I was so adamant about drafting Drummond last year.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#594 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:19 am

Ben McLemore may be the real deal. I know I was in love with Bradley Beal last year, but Mclemore seems to have maybe even more potential due to his extreme athleticism. Beal is still the better shooter out of the two I think, but McLemore has a really nice stroke. McLemore is a beast athletically though and seems to be getting better every game.

I think if we had the first pick I would go McLemore and if he was off the board I would try to swing pick to Wiz for Beal, but if neither of those plans worked Shabazz would not be bad. I havent been that impressed by Shabazz though. I think Shabazz will be a good scorer at the next level, but in kind of an ugly way. He gets a lot of his points in transition and offense putbacks or defensive breakdowns. He doesnt really get to the basket great in the halfcourt and his shot looks kind of iffy to me. Plus he doesnt seem to impact the game in many areas either. Mclemore is more athletic, better shooter, seems to be better rebounder and has tools to be a good defensive player as well.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#595 » by James Gatz » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:06 pm

fatlever wrote:its my preference to go big with our next pick, if all things are remotely equal. bazz and mclemore might help our scoring, but we arent going anywhere until we get some competent bigs on this roster and not just one or two, we need like four. we arent going to find good bigs in free agency w/out paying through the roof.

After watching last night I'm inclined to agree but I still don't see any bigs available at the top of the draft that wouldn't be projects. The exception of course is Zeller who I would like with the 5th pick but not so much with the 2nd.
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Post#596 » by BlackOutBuzz » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:21 pm

So I was reading up on some prospects I'm not as familiar with and ran across this gem of a NBA comparison for Steven Adams (from nbadraft.net)

http://nbadraft.net/players/steven-adams

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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#597 » by rock digger » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:53 am

hi guys, ive been lurking on your forum since the start of last year (how i managed - i dont know), and finally feel ready to be a poster

my first question is a bit unrelated to this thread, but since my second question had to deal with a prospect i figured it wouldnt hurt to ask in this thread. i know you guys have a rivalry with the pistons and all, but whats with all the hatred? just a few days ago a pistons fan registered as CHA_B0BCATS_77 and posted in their own board to mock bobcats fans. and then we have bobcats fans insulting pistons fans for no reason. whats up with this? we're two bad teams that arent going anywhere this season, so why the unnecessary hatred? i personally live in michigan and trust me, people are not hyped about knight, but they love drummond (understandably so). they have some nice pieces and we have some nice pieces so i just dont get the mudslinging

secondly, what do you guys think of doug mcderrmont? i know that we are definitely not going to get him - our pick is too high and from what ive been reading mcderrmont is suppose to be a late 1st / early 2nd round pick so our trailblazers pick will also be too high (if we get it). im asking because this guy is an offensive behemoth who can post up and shoot from 3 and is 6'10. i would have figured that the kid would get much more draft hype than hes getting right now, so can someone fill me in?
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#598 » by Eoghan » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:35 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:So I was reading up on some prospects I'm not as familiar with and ran across this gem of a NBA comparison for Steven Adams (from nbadraft.net)

http://nbadraft.net/players/steven-adams

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That's as off-base as whoever compared Muhammad to MKG. Do these people watch basketball?

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IME, it kind of started on the general board. Prince of Palace and maybe a couple of others seemed to take uncalled-for potshots at the Bobcats all the time ever since we've been tanking. Naturally, being the butt of everyone's jokes from being fans of the worst team in NBA history got old quick and our thinner skinned posters just went on the offensive to give as good as we got, just a natural defense. To POP's credit, he/she's been much, much less douchey recently.

I've only seen McDermott in their game against SIU and he looked like hot garbage. Slow, unathletic, plodding white guy with Bryan Cardinal's ceiling and Chris Crawford at worst.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#599 » by catch20two » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:47 am

If Shabazz Muhammad can continue to light up the scoreboards the way he has been under a Ben Howland system at UCLA that didn't even allow Russell Westbrook or Jrue Holiday to flourish offensively, I'm sure he'll be a superstar in the NBA. That's why he'll remain #1 on my list unless something goes horribly wrong all of a sudden. With the way we've been playing lately I can't wait until March Madness to find salvage for my winning spirit in these draft prospects.
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Post#600 » by SWedd523 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:00 am

I'm still waiting to see a ISO game on the college level before I give him the benefit of the doubt for being a capable ISO threat in the NBA. I get the argument that he's working himself into the offense, and I'm not saying he doesn't have the ability, but I would still need a little bit of evidence to make such a leap of logical faith. At the very least, I'd like to see him initiate as a pseudo-PG at times and/or bring the ball up the court like I've seen McLemore do



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