#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

Post #581 » by **JDR720** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:41 pm

i dont wanna sound mean....but i kinda hope Adrien sucks vs the Pacers so Cliff will play Biz, Adrien will get killed by Hibbert

mrknowitall215 · Post #582 » by **mrknowitall215** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:51 pm

JDR720 wrote:i dont wanna sound mean....but i kinda hope Adrien sucks vs the Pacers so Cliff will play Biz, Adrien will get killed by Hibbert

I already placed a bet on the Bobcats beating the 7.5 point spread against the Pacers. I hope Adrien plays great. Moreover, I hope Clifford come to his senses and let Biyombo take Zeller's minutes

Elden Payton · Post #583 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:30 pm

I really like what Clifford has done for us so far but this treatment of Biyombo is giving me fits, his rotations are terrible and it seems like he wants to prove how good a coach he is by going .500 this season.

Clifford's reasoning for Adrien playing so much better and it would be wrong not to go that way are completely moronic and ridiculous.

Adrien had 1/3 in our last game..

Mortgaging our future to pretend we are competent is incompetence.

#FREEBIZNATION #GOD #DEFENSEWINS

Post #584 » by **JDR720** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:45 pm

I'm hoping that Cliff is just experimenting with the rotations and they wont be this bad the whole season

Marvel · Post #585 » by **Marvel** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:07 am

He's not experimenting. He's made his intentions clear. He's an idiot.

catch20two · Post #586 » by **catch20two** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:12 am

Let's get this straight. Adrien deserves minutes but not at the expense of Biz. Biz was playing well. Clifford need to DNP-CD the other bigs like Zeller and Tolliver that haven't been playing good at all. How do you bench your best rebounder and shotblocker? I don't understand that. No matter how Clifford tries to explain it I don't even understand, can't even comprehend, because it don't make no sense.

thruthefire · Post #587 » by **thruthefire** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:17 am

He's giving Adrien a chance for playing so well when called on. As the coach, Clifford is obviously going to play the guys he feels give the team the best shot at winning. I just wish someone in our front office made it clear to him that developing players is more important right now than fighting out wins against equally **** teams. Sitting Zeller, as bad as he's been, should not be an option either.

Marvel · Post #588 » by **Marvel** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:19 am

How the hell is Tolliver helping us win games?

Post #589 » by **JDR720** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:20 am

if he keeps doing things the way he is doing them im sure Cho or Higgins will talk to him about it...or even MJ if it gets real bad

Post #590 » by **JDR720** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:21 am

Marvel wrote:How the hell is Tolliver helping us win games?

providing shooting and defense obviously...well at least thats the plan

Post #591 » by **JDR720** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:26 am

Charlotte has to many players on the roster also

Kemba,Sessions,MKG,Pargo,Zeller,Al,Jeff,Adrien,Biz,Gordon,Southerland,Tolliver,Haywood,McBob and Gerald...

that is 15 players, about 3 to many, get rid of Southerland (D-League) or cut, cut Haywood and Pargo, only reason to keep Southerland is he could be a good 3pt shooter one day and let Tolliver be the new bench scrub that never plays and give his minutes to Adrien and let Biz have his regular minutes back

Eoghan · Post #592 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:42 am

JDR720 wrote:Biz overusing #'s are clear signs of depression

We'll know when to start worrying if he starts signing off with #BeWell

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Is Clifford drunk? Before the season he was like "Small ball is teh suck" and now he's like "Ramon at SG and Adrien at C, **** yeah!" Those stents must be getting too much blood to his brain or something.

Post #593 » by **JDR720** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:46 am

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/1 ... pVpYKuUNrM

some things Cliff said about Adrien over Biz

“Jeff Adrien did so well – and I told Biz this – that I couldn’t not give him a chance to play more”

These are facts and numbers, not a feel. If you look at plus-minus in those games when he played, we played so well as a group. His plus-minus was so good I would have felt guilty with the guys if I didn’t give him a chance.”

What Biz said about it

I’ve got to control what I can control. It’s obvious I believe that I can be a better player. I’ve just got to keep positive, keep working and be there for my teammates,” Biyombo said. “There’s a long way to go. The season is just getting started, so you’ve got to learn from all this.

“He’s the coach. He made the decision and I respect that. He feels this is for the better of the team and there’s nothing I can do about it. I can only control myself coming in and getting ready. And staying ready. I’ll always be ready.”

Post #594 » by **JDR720** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:47 am

Cliff uses +/- as a legit stat....why the hell are Zeller and JT playing!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

catch20two · Post #595 » by **catch20two** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:04 am

JDR720 wrote:Cliff uses +/- as a legit stat....why the hell are Zeller and JT playing!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

Taylor has only become a more noticeable negative recently. Let's just hope that Clifford has taken notice and give MKG more time and treat him like a real starter.

HornetJail · Post #596 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:07 am

thruthefire wrote:He's giving Adrien a chance for playing so well when called on. As the coach, Clifford is obviously going to play the guys he feels give the team the best shot at winning. I just wish someone in our front office made it clear to him that developing players is more important right now than fighting out wins against equally **** teams. Sitting Zeller, as bad as he's been, should not be an option either.

I would rather see that than see Biyombo racking up DNPs.

mrknowitall215 · Post #597 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:34 am

thruthefire wrote:Sitting Zeller, as bad as he's been, should not be an option either.

Sitting Zeller should be an option. He's been horrible. Zeller's early performances deserve a DNP-CD and it would be met with less opposition than benching Biyombo. Biyombo was playing well & had one of his better games the game before the DNP-CDs begun

Marvel · Post #598 » by **Marvel** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:54 am

Oh really Cliff? Then why, according to "facts and numbers" are you playing Taylor more minutes than MKG? MKG's impact on the floor is a positive, Taylor's is a negative. This guy is all kinds of nonsense. This guy reminds me of Larry Clown.

Elden Payton · Post #599 » by **Elden Payton** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:26 am

As much of a clown as Larry is, he is still a coaching savant.

Clifford not so much.

Fair enough that Clifford has admitted that coaches have favourites but I cannot think of a single reason (from everything we've ever heard) why Biyombo would not be a coaches favourite.

Amateur Wannabe · Post #600 » by **Amateur Wannabe** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:23 am

With Biyombo's performance last night... being as agressive as ever... with no too much reason in benching him like Clifford did previously, watching this particular game, I was thinking of something - maybe Clifford wanted something else from Biz - to provoke a response. Well he certainly responded.
12.6 points and 25.2 (!) rebounds per36 vs. Bucks.