2014 Free Agency Thread

[Logander]

Has anyone talked about Greg Monroe yet? The dude is like Al Jefferson Jr, he's almost averaging a double double and he plays a very identical post game to Big Al.If we had Monroe we would own the paint on offense plain and simple, and there's no way the guy is going to accept a contract after this year with the Pistons. We should be making this guy our number 1 target in the offseason imo. Thoughts?

Edit: I was trying to link highlight videos but my phone is screwing up unfortunately.

He and Al can't coexist i think, they are both bad defenders and Monroe and Al both score in the paint for almost all of their offense mainly from the post, it was hard enough learning to play with 1 low post scorer let alone 2

You're probably right, I know Memphis has gotten pretty good at having two low post scorers on their team in Gasol and Randolph, and I can kind of see our team being modeled after them. Also I'm trying to see how much out defense would suffer if we had Monroe. I'm sure If Clifford can find a way to make Al not be completely trash on defense then there's hope.

[BeesWax]

Has anyone talked about Greg Monroe yet? The dude is like Al Jefferson Jr, he's almost averaging a double double and he plays a very identical post game to Big Al.If we had Monroe we would own the paint on offense plain and simple, and there's no way the guy is going to accept a contract after this year with the Pistons. We should be making this guy our number 1 target in the offseason imo. Thoughts?

Edit: I was trying to link highlight videos but my phone is screwing up unfortunately.

He and Al can't coexist i think, they are both bad defenders and Monroe and Al both score in the paint for almost all of their offense mainly from the post, it was hard enough learning to play with 1 low post scorer let alone 2

You're probably right, I know Memphis has gotten pretty good at having two low post scorers on their team in Gasol and Randolph, and I can kind of see our team being modeled after them. Also I'm trying to see how much out defense would suffer if we had Monroe. I'm sure If Clifford can find a way to make Al not be completely trash on defense then there's hope.

We would be terrible on defense. Gasol is a pretty good defender and I don't think Randolph is as bad as Monroe is at the 4 defensively. We would give up a lot on the defensive end with those two on the floor. Now what would be nice is if Monroe came somewhat cheap have him and Jefferson on the same team and let Jefferson work with him. It would be the first time Jefferson had a big on his team with similar strengths and weaknesses. If you could get Jefferson to teach him you could get a younger clone if you signed him for long term at a decent price. That way when Jefferson opts out we would not need to pay him to come back.

[BeesWax]

I don't know how much he would cost and it would not be a huge help next season but if Clifford is going to refuse to use Biz then I would consider trying to sign and trade for Monroe if the Pistons don't want to keep him. It would depend on the deal but something in the 5 year 40-45 million range would work for me. That way he has a year to work with and behind Al before Al opts out then we go with Monroe down there after Al leaves.

[catch20two]

He and Al can't coexist i think, they are both bad defenders and Monroe and Al both score in the paint for almost all of their offense mainly from the post, it was hard enough learning to play with 1 low post scorer let alone 2

You're probably right, I know Memphis has gotten pretty good at having two low post scorers on their team in Gasol and Randolph, and I can kind of see our team being modeled after them. Also I'm trying to see how much out defense would suffer if we had Monroe. I'm sure If Clifford can find a way to make Al not be completely trash on defense then there's hope.

We would be terrible on defense. Gasol is a pretty good defender and I don't think Randolph is as bad as Monroe is at the 4 defensively. We would give up a lot on the defensive end with those two on the floor. Now what would be nice is if Monroe came somewhat cheap have him and Jefferson on the same team and let Jefferson work with him. It would be the first time Jefferson had a big on his team with similar strengths and weaknesses. If you could get Jefferson to teach him you could get a younger clone if you signed him for long term at a decent price. That way when Jefferson opts out we would not need to pay him to come back.

Monroe ain't coming cheap. End of the story. His agent ain't dumb.

[BeesWax]

You're probably right, I know Memphis has gotten pretty good at having two low post scorers on their team in Gasol and Randolph, and I can kind of see our team being modeled after them. Also I'm trying to see how much out defense would suffer if we had Monroe. I'm sure If Clifford can find a way to make Al not be completely trash on defense then there's hope.

We would be terrible on defense. Gasol is a pretty good defender and I don't think Randolph is as bad as Monroe is at the 4 defensively. We would give up a lot on the defensive end with those two on the floor. Now what would be nice is if Monroe came somewhat cheap have him and Jefferson on the same team and let Jefferson work with him. It would be the first time Jefferson had a big on his team with similar strengths and weaknesses. If you could get Jefferson to teach him you could get a younger clone if you signed him for long term at a decent price. That way when Jefferson opts out we would not need to pay him to come back.

Monroe ain't coming cheap. End of the story. His agent ain't dumb.

I saw a Piston's write up that had him in the 8 to 9 a year range. If that were true I would take him here as the piece for life after Al.

[Logander]

You're probably right, I know Memphis has gotten pretty good at having two low post scorers on their team in Gasol and Randolph, and I can kind of see our team being modeled after them. Also I'm trying to see how much out defense would suffer if we had Monroe. I'm sure If Clifford can find a way to make Al not be completely trash on defense then there's hope.

We would be terrible on defense. Gasol is a pretty good defender and I don't think Randolph is as bad as Monroe is at the 4 defensively. We would give up a lot on the defensive end with those two on the floor. Now what would be nice is if Monroe came somewhat cheap have him and Jefferson on the same team and let Jefferson work with him. It would be the first time Jefferson had a big on his team with similar strengths and weaknesses. If you could get Jefferson to teach him you could get a younger clone if you signed him for long term at a decent price. That way when Jefferson opts out we would not need to pay him to come back.

Monroe ain't coming cheap. End of the story. His agent ain't dumb.

Do you not think it would be worth it though? Like JDM was saying we could basically have an Al clone in the works who we could sign long term so we wouldn't have to resign AL if he opts out of his contract. We do that, hopefully draft a SG and do something with Hendo we could have a great team. Honestly the weak point on this entire team is Hendo. If we had a SG who could actually shoot three pointers and wasn't so one dimensional on offense the Monroe deal wouldn't look bad at all. I say instead of skipping over Monroe because of spacing issues we fix the person who is causing them by replacing Hendo. I think this organization would be crazy to not even offer Monroe a contract this offseason.

[catch20two]

I saw a Piston's write up that had him in the 8 to 9 a year range. If that were true I would take him here as the piece for life after Al.

So fitting that a Pistons write up would have him so low because that's the amount they tried to low ball him for which lead to him becoming a free agent instead of getting a extension. I just googled it and I see that David Falk (Jordan's former agent) is his agent and demanding something in the neighborhood of 4yrs/$60mil. That's $15mil per year.

[Logander]

I saw a Piston's write up that had him in the 8 to 9 a year range. If that were true I would take him here as the piece for life after Al.

So fitting that a Pistons write up would have him so low because that's the amount they tried to low ball him for which lead to him becoming a free agent instead of getting a extension. I just googled it and I see that David Falk (Jordan's former agent) is his agent and demanding something in the neighborhood of 4yrs/$60mil. That's $15mil per year.

That would totally be worth it. Almost the same price AL is. And considering Greg Monroe is a lot like him except younger why not? Maybe we could get him cheaper, hell who wants to play for the Pistons anyway? You know he doesn't want to waste his career at a crap hole of a place as Detriot.

[catch20two]

We would be terrible on defense. Gasol is a pretty good defender and I don't think Randolph is as bad as Monroe is at the 4 defensively. We would give up a lot on the defensive end with those two on the floor. Now what would be nice is if Monroe came somewhat cheap have him and Jefferson on the same team and let Jefferson work with him. It would be the first time Jefferson had a big on his team with similar strengths and weaknesses. If you could get Jefferson to teach him you could get a younger clone if you signed him for long term at a decent price. That way when Jefferson opts out we would not need to pay him to come back.

Monroe ain't coming cheap. End of the story. His agent ain't dumb.

Do you not think it would be worth it though? Like JDM was saying we could basically have an Al clone in the works who we could sign long term so we wouldn't have to resign AL if he opts out of his contract. We do that, hopefully draft a SG and do something with Hendo we could have a great team. Honestly the weak point on this entire team is Hendo. If we had a SG who could actually shoot three pointers and wasn't so one dimensional on offense the Monroe deal wouldn't look bad at all. I say instead of skipping over Monroe because of spacing issues we fix the person who is causing them by replacing Hendo. I think this organization would be crazy to not even offer Monroe a contract this offseason.

Naaw, I don't think it's worth it even if he could be had for $8mil per year. Big Al is and always was skilled offensively. Monroe ain't got no moves and he's worst defensively than Big Al ever was. We need a defensive minded PF like Henson if we're going to pay a lot. Either that or a superior scorer like Kevin Love (which I'm just throwing out there) to offset how bad we'd be defensively.

[BeesWax]

I saw a Piston's write up that had him in the 8 to 9 a year range. If that were true I would take him here as the piece for life after Al.

So fitting that a Pistons write up would have him so low because that's the amount they tried to low ball him for which lead to him becoming a free agent instead of getting a extension. I just googled it and I see that David Falk (Jordan's former agent) is his agent and demanding something in the neighborhood of 4yrs/$60mil. That's $15mil per year.

No way I would pay him more than 10 a year at this point. 5 for 50 would be my max and it would be a stretch.

[mrknowitall215]

I would take a chance on Ed Davis at a fraction of the price before I'd pay Greg Monroe anywhere close to the amount of money he'll demand

[BeesWax]

Monroe ain't coming cheap. End of the story. His agent ain't dumb.

Do you not think it would be worth it though? Like JDM was saying we could basically have an Al clone in the works who we could sign long term so we wouldn't have to resign AL if he opts out of his contract. We do that, hopefully draft a SG and do something with Hendo we could have a great team. Honestly the weak point on this entire team is Hendo. If we had a SG who could actually shoot three pointers and wasn't so one dimensional on offense the Monroe deal wouldn't look bad at all. I say instead of skipping over Monroe because of spacing issues we fix the person who is causing them by replacing Hendo. I think this organization would be crazy to not even offer Monroe a contract this offseason.

Naaw, I don't think it's worth it even if he could be had for $8mil per year. Big Al is and always was skilled offensively. Monroe ain't got no moves and he's worst defensively than Big Al ever was. We need a defensive minded PF like Henson if we're going to pay a lot. Either that or a superior scorer like Kevin Love (which I'm just throwing out there) to offset how bad we'd be defensively.

I agree. Monroe does not have the moves. That is why I would want them to overlap a year. Monroe is just as good a defensive player as Al if not better. Al is less athletic and both don't give much effort on that end. I would be getting Monroe to be my new Al in two years and at 8 he would have been a steal. Henson would be a good addition too but I think Al opts out and he does not deserve any more money than he is getting since he only tries on Offense.

[Eoghan]

Monroe is a homeless man's Al, no way in hell do I want him here.

[Liver_Pooty]

Id keep Jefferson until hes 36 years old before Id sign Monroe.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Just the thought of an Al/Monroe pairing on defense...

[No-Man]

Monroe will be beyond idiotic.

FAs that I like for Charlotte, in no order,

Shelvin Mack, Mike Scott
Jerryd Bayless
Shaun Livingston
DeJuan Blair
Jan Vesely
Rodney Stuckey
Jordan Hamilton
Lance Stephenson
MarShon Brooks, Jodie Meeks, Xavier Henry
Ed Davis
Jeff Adrien
Patty Mills
Nando de Colo
Gordon Hayward, Brandon Rush, Marvin Williams

[thruthefire]

I hope the Clippers players are allowed to opt out of their contracts, so CP3 has the option of coming home. Maybe he was blowing smoke, but he said he would think about it a few years ago, and Charlotte is a much more attractive option now.

And he would definitely be able to recruit another big name.

[JDR720]

I hope the Clippers players are allowed to opt out of their contracts, so CP3 has the option of coming home. And he would definitely be able to recruit another big name.

the league wont do that, you can have a franchise with no players and no one will go there

[ARHornet]

That would be wild. No way the NBA ever lets that happen. I would guess they make Sterling sell and just do damage control.

[chrbal]

The League will probably eventually suspend him and then work towards getting him to sell. I hope the Clippers weren't planning on signing any free agents this year.