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Post#61 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:26 am

The only 5 comparisons for guards in the league.

Jamal Crawford, Ray Allen, Dwayne Wade, Rondo, and Ellis...

Kemba was a borderline all star at the break.
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Post#62 » by Leolovinliberal » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:36 am

JMAC3 wrote:The only 5 comparisons for guards in the league.

Jamal Crawford, Ray Allen, Dwayne Wade, Rondo, and Ellis...

Kemba was a borderline all star at the break.


You're making my point for me, only one of those guys is a pg. Besides, those players are so dissimilar, how can you compare Kemba to them? Ray Allen is nothing like Monte Ellis who is nothing like Rondo. Ideally, KW is a great offensive 6th man, he should not be a starting pg on an NBA team. I love my package idea for him, mkg and stone hands for favors, hayward and their 2 firsts. Kabongo is Kemba and Rondo combined.

What is a "borderline all star"?
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Post#63 » by Leolovinliberal » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:44 am

PG: Sessions, Kabongo
SG: Taylor, JJ Redick
SF: Hayward, Reggie Williams
PF: Favors, Olynyk
C: Nerlens Noel, Mully

The more I look at this team, the more I LOVE it. A stud sg away from being a serious contender. Oh yeah, my head coach would be Shaka Smart.
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Post#64 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:46 am

Meaning he got consideration after Rondo couldnt play.

I am saying that those 5 names are overused when you compare players. I do not understand how people are still saying Kemba isnt a starting point guard in the league when he is prolly top 15 in the league.
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Post#65 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:46 am

Meaning he got consideration after Rondo couldnt play.

I am saying that those 5 names are overused when you compare players. I do not understand how people are still saying Kemba isnt a starting point guard in the league when he is prolly top 15 in the league.
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Post#66 » by Leolovinliberal » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:51 am

I went to Utah's board for the first time in a while and unbeknownst to me, there was a 4 page Myck kabongo thread. Looks like the word is out. He's gonna be a STAR.
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Post#67 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:53 am

Leolovinliberal wrote:PG: Sessions, Kabongo
SG: Taylor, JJ Redick
SF: Hayward, Reggie Williams
PF: Favors, Olynyk
C: Nerlens Noel, Mully

The more I look at this team, the more I LOVE it. A stud sg away from being a serious contender. Oh yeah, my head coach would be Shaka Smart.


This team sucks bro. You do realize that not a single player on your team starts currently in the NBA other than Mullens, who starts for the worst team in NBA.

This team would average 70 points a game and sessions would have to relearn how to share the ball.
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Post#68 » by Leolovinliberal » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:57 am

JMAC3 wrote:
Leolovinliberal wrote:PG: Sessions, Kabongo
SG: Taylor, JJ Redick
SF: Hayward, Reggie Williams
PF: Favors, Olynyk
C: Nerlens Noel, Mully

The more I look at this team, the more I LOVE it. A stud sg away from being a serious contender. Oh yeah, my head coach would be Shaka Smart.


This team sucks bro. You do realize that not a single player on your team starts currently in the NBA other than Mullens, who starts for the worst team in NBA.

This team would average 70 points a game and sessions would have to relearn how to share the ball.


This team doesn't suck at all. It's waaaaaay better than the current one, and Favors/Noel would instantly be a top 5 young frount courts in the league. Kabongo is gonna be a STAR and Hayward is very, very good. You have to be a visionary and look long term. That roster that I proposed is a stud sg away from being very, very good.
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Post#69 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:07 am

Leolovinliberal wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Leolovinliberal wrote:PG: Sessions, Kabongo
SG: Taylor, JJ Redick
SF: Hayward, Reggie Williams
PF: Favors, Olynyk
C: Nerlens Noel, Mully

The more I look at this team, the more I LOVE it. A stud sg away from being a serious contender. Oh yeah, my head coach would be Shaka Smart.


This team sucks bro. You do realize that not a single player on your team starts currently in the NBA other than Mullens, who starts for the worst team in NBA.

This team would average 70 points a game and sessions would have to relearn how to share the ball.


This team doesn't suck at all. It's waaaaaay better than the current one, and Favors/Noel would instantly be a top 5 young frount courts in the league. Kabongo is gonna be a STAR and Hayward is very, very good. You have to be a visionary and look long term. That roster that I proposed is a stud sg away from being very, very good.


Kemba- Sessions
McLemore- Gordon
MKG- Taylor
Mully- Olynck
Biz- Haywood

and plenty of money to spend in free agency. This team is better now and set up better for the future. It is a stud PF from being a very very very good. Easily could use the 20 million to land that PF this season such as Josh Smith or Millsap.
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Post#70 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:11 am

Kemba> Kabongo
MKG> Hayward

I agree Favors is better than Biz, but that is too much to give up for him.
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Post#71 » by ball teacher » Fri Mar 8, 2013 4:00 pm

Leolovinliberal wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
ball teacher wrote:Honestly, the only three players we have that seem to be starter material are MKG, Henderson, and Sessions. I wouldn't lose sleep if Henderson left either. I don't know why Sam Mitchell isn't coaching in the league anymore either, but he can coach and I don't know why Mike doesn't bring him along to coach this squad.
I'd get some big men coaches to teach Mullens and Biyombo how to play properly, propably keep Mcroberts, and hope Cho drafts well.

Which one is it? Did you accidentally leave Kemba out or did he sleep with your girlfriend/wife?


Kemba is not a starter on a championship caliber team, which I hope is the ultimate aspiration. Ideally, he is an explosive 6th man instant offense kinda guy, i.e Jamal Crawford.


I agree 100%

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ball teacher wrote:Honestly, the only three players we have that seem to be starter material are MKG, Henderson, and Sessions. I wouldn't lose sleep if Henderson left either. I don't know why Sam Mitchell isn't coaching in the league anymore either, but he can coach and I don't know why Mike doesn't bring him along to coach this squad.
I'd get some big men coaches to teach Mullens and Biyombo how to play properly, propably keep Mcroberts, and hope Cho drafts well.

Which one is it? Did you accidentally leave Kemba out or did he sleep with your girlfriend/wife?


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Post#72 » by catch20two » Fri Mar 8, 2013 4:23 pm

'Leolovinliberal' and 'ball teacher' posting in the same thread together automatically means some inevitable Kemba bashing.
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Post#73 » by pickIBL » Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:13 pm

I don't see anything on the Bobcats or in this draft that would make the Jazz give up Favors.
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Post#74 » by catch20two » Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:25 pm

pickIBL wrote:I don't see anything on the Bobcats or in this draft that would make the Jazz give up Favors.

I think Favors is a excellent young talent but I wouldn't be willing to mortgage half of my core for him. There's just nothing about him that make me believe that he'll be anything better than a less than stellar version of Amare Stoudemire in his prime, which is similar to Amare now.
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Re: The Official "Build For The Future" Thread 

Post#75 » by Kembastockton » Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:38 pm

Kemba is not a starter on a championship caliber team, which I hope is the ultimate aspiration. Ideally, he is an explosive 6th man instant offense kinda guy, i.e Jamal Crawford.


You do realize that Derrick Fisher and Mario Chalmers were both starters on championship teams right? Neither is better than Kemba. I mean honestly if we can find a pointguard who averages more than 17 and 5 with 2 steals a game I have no problem putting Kemba on the bench, but they are not as common as you seem to think. According to yahoo stats there is no pointguard averaging more than 17 points, 5 assists, and 2 steals.

You're making my point for me, only one of those guys is a pg. Besides, those players are so dissimilar, how can you compare Kemba to them? Ray Allen is nothing like Monte Ellis who is nothing like Rondo. Ideally, KW is a great offensive 6th man, he should not be a starting pg on an NBA team. I love my package idea for him, mkg and stone hands for favors, hayward and their 2 firsts. Kabongo is Kemba and Rondo combined.


Of course you love the idea. It was your idea. You will not find many people on either side of that trade who agree with you though. If Kabongo was Kemba and Rondo combined Texas would be a lot better than they are. Kabongo is a similar player to Kemba at best. A poor man's version of Kemba at worst. I mean really. Kemba led his team to the NCAA Championship while lighting up college basketball. Kabongo has a long way to go to fairly be compared to Kemba and that is just being realistic.
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Post#76 » by misterglover » Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:54 pm

Leo i agree w/ alot of what you say as I think alot of ppl on here are dilusional on both Kemba & MKG.....i agree w/ you that i dont want Kemba as the starter on my vision of a good team and I think Hayward is better or just as good as MKG but that version of a team you have sucks lol......
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Post#77 » by pickIBL » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:20 pm

catch20two wrote:
pickIBL wrote:I don't see anything on the Bobcats or in this draft that would make the Jazz give up Favors.

I think Favors is a excellent young talent but I wouldn't be willing to mortgage half of my core for him. There's just nothing about him that make me believe that he'll be anything better than a less than stellar version of Amare Stoudemire in his prime, which is similar to Amare now.


I'm not impressed with the core or this draft. I think all options ought to be on the table. & Pray for wiggins is not a good mathematical option.
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Post#78 » by Kembastockton » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:20 pm

I am so glad you guys who's vision of what our team should be would create a marshmallow team like Golden State have no say in what kind of team is built. I am hoping for a team that will consistently be able to get out of the first round one day.

I'm not impressed with the core or this draft. I think all options ought to be on the table. & Pray for wiggins is not a good mathematical option.


In all honesty Wiggins is a long shot. If we make our plans focused on getting Wiggins one day we will likely be sadly disappointed. Phoenix and a couple other teams have been around for decades and never gotten the number one pick.
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Post#79 » by SWedd523 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:34 pm

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Post#80 » by Leolovinliberal » Sat Mar 9, 2013 2:04 am

catch20two wrote:'Leolovinliberal' and 'ball teacher' posting in the same thread together automatically means some inevitable Kemba bashing.


Show me where I "bashed" Kemba in this thread.

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