2015-16 Fake Trade Thread

[Braggins]

Trade for Cousins. Fire Clifford. Hire Mike Malone. Sign Matthews or Green.

Kemba/Mo
Green/Hairston
MKG/Lance
Zeller/Vonleh
Cousins/Biz

Highly unlikely scenario but its fun to think about. Maybe them crazy Kings would be willing to do #9 + Al for Cousins lol. I think I want to do the fire Clifford and hire Mike Malone part regardless.

[Diop]

Trade for Cousins. Fire Clifford. Hire Mike Malone. Sign Matthews or Green.

Kemba/Mo
Green/Hairston
MKG/Lance
Zeller/Vonleh
Cousins/Biz

Highly unlikely scenario but its fun to think about. Maybe them crazy Kings would be willing to do #9 + Al for Cousins lol. I think I want to do the fire Clifford and hire Mike Malone part regardless.

if only the NBA was like NBA 2k15, I did very similar in my game but fired Clifford and hired Popovich instead.

[Liver_Pooty]

Batum is better than Henderson, but is he really THAT much better to essentially give up the 9th pick in the draft?

I don't think so, especially after this season.

That is what it really comes down to. I think it depends on if we have any opportunities to move up and who ends up being available at 9. If we can't trade up and Hezonja is gone before 9 then I might consider that Portland package over taking someone like Johnson, Kaminsky, or WCS with the pick. Maybe Johnson impresses in workouts and we end up just happily taking him 9th, but I really don't think anyone else likely to be available at 9 is very good or would have much chance of helping us anytime soon.

I'm more than happy to trade the 9th pick, but Batum isn't near enough of an upgrade over what we currently have to do it regardless of who we pick in my opinion.

[Braggins]

Trade for Cousins. Fire Clifford. Hire Mike Malone. Sign Matthews or Green.

Kemba/Mo
Green/Hairston
MKG/Lance
Zeller/Vonleh
Cousins/Biz

Highly unlikely scenario but its fun to think about. Maybe them crazy Kings would be willing to do #9 + Al for Cousins lol. I think I want to do the fire Clifford and hire Mike Malone part regardless.

if only the NBA was like NBA 2k15, I did very similar in my game but fired Clifford and hired Popovich instead.

I immediately fire Clifford in 2k15 and hire the coach with the goofiest name of all the fake coaches who have decently high ratings. I love the made up names in sports games. My current coach is named Ronald Phelps, which isn't as silly as I usually go for, but there weren't many good options and he had a pretty intense mustache lol.

[Braggins]

Batum is better than Henderson, but is he really THAT much better to essentially give up the 9th pick in the draft?

I don't think so, especially after this season.

That is what it really comes down to. I think it depends on if we have any opportunities to move up and who ends up being available at 9. If we can't trade up and Hezonja is gone before 9 then I might consider that Portland package over taking someone like Johnson, Kaminsky, or WCS with the pick. Maybe Johnson impresses in workouts and we end up just happily taking him 9th, but I really don't think anyone else likely to be available at 9 is very good or would have much chance of helping us anytime soon.

I'm more than happy to trade the 9th pick, but Batum isn't near enough of an upgrade over what we currently have to do it regardless of who we pick in my opinion.

I agree, but Leonard and Mccollum add enough value that I would give it some thought.

[Liver_Pooty]

That is what it really comes down to. I think it depends on if we have any opportunities to move up and who ends up being available at 9. If we can't trade up and Hezonja is gone before 9 then I might consider that Portland package over taking someone like Johnson, Kaminsky, or WCS with the pick. Maybe Johnson impresses in workouts and we end up just happily taking him 9th, but I really don't think anyone else likely to be available at 9 is very good or would have much chance of helping us anytime soon.

I'm more than happy to trade the 9th pick, but Batum isn't near enough of an upgrade over what we currently have to do it regardless of who we pick in my opinion.

I agree, but Leonard and Mccollum add enough value that I would give it some thought.

I like Leonard, not that big on Mccollum though. I'd definitely give it some thought, but if im going to give up the 9th pick I at least want a player that is elite at something. Batum reminds me of Diaw without the weight issues. A dull swiss army knife that can do a multitude of stuff, but nothing to make that great of a difference, at least not this season anyway.

Season before last? Yeah, sign me up. Big risk though if we were to give up a top 10 pick for him.

[Diop]

I wish we had Diaw instead of Marv, the Al Fense would have suited him great.

[yosemiteben]

For me it's more conceptual and not about the specific pieces coming from Portland. If we are trading Al and the 9 in one move, we have to be getting a guaranteed scorer in return.

Also, kind of random, but would the idea be that Batum would be what we wanted Lance to be? Seems kind of odd to add guys with such similar skill sets, when neither is a perfect fit for what what we actually need.

[Braggins]

Batum has been a more willing and capable 3 point shooter than Lance. He has more length and is a better defender, or he at least gives a more consistent effort on D. He also is good off the ball and isn't a ball-stopper so he would fit well with Kemba and Lance. I like his fit quite a bit on our team, but he definitely had a down year and is somewhat of a risk.

[HornetJail]

Batum is better than Henderson, but is he really THAT much better to essentially give up the 9th pick in the draft?

I don't think so, especially after this season.

Batum was shooting like ass this season due to a hand injury. Historically Batum is basically a 6'8 Hendo with handle, a smooth jumper, and better passing. Basically everything we could dream of Hendo becoming. Batum is as free agent in 2016 and would be a great fit with MKG

[Diop]

I like Leonard, not that big on Mccollum though.

i think he read your post

[Benjamin Linus]

I actually had McCollum ranked ahead of Cody in that draft, although he's been super underwhelming. But yeah, he killed it in his last three games (33 points, 18 points, and 26 points while shooting 11-17 from three). I still like his potential.

I'm on the fence with the Portland deal. If I knew Batum would bounce back for sure, then I would probably be more inclined.

[californiadude]

That's fair. I don't know if Decker or even Johnson will end up a better player then Barnes, pretty sure if they were all coming out of college at the same time Barnes would go before any of those 3. But I can definitely understand how unknown/untapped potential is more enticing then a guy who's already been in the league 2/3 years. I do really like Oubre.

Meh, I think Barnes underwhelmed in college and is still underwhelming. He was the top prospect in his high school class and was voted a pre-season All American his freshman year. I think when he was drafted people still envisioned him having that really high ceiling, but expectations have come down for him because he hasn't been great.

To be perfectly honest, I hated pick at the time. I desperately wanted them to take Drummond and unfortunately they just decided to play it safe with Barnes. On the bright side, apparently the guy the front office really wanted was Dion Waiters so...yeah, BARNES WAS THE BEST PICK EVER!!!!

I do think Barnes offers potential that he just hasn't gotten the opportunity to show. Time will tell if he can capitalize on it.

[slc24]

Any thoughts on this trade I posted in the trade forum?

Portland trades: Nicolas Batum, CJ McCollum, Steve Blake, #23
Portland receives: #9, #42, Trey Burke

Charlotte trades: #9, Cody Zeller
Charlotte receives: #12, #23, #56, CJ McCollum

Utah trades: #12, #42, #56, Trey Burke
Utah receives: Nicolas Batum, Cody Zeller, Steve Blake


Why for Portland: Ditches the last year of Batum's contract after underwhelming this year, plus moves up from #23 to #9 for the mere cost of McCollum. They also get rid of Blake's last year and get a much younger Burke to replace him and learn under Lillard. At #9 they should be able to grab Stanley Johnson who would replace Batum on the wing, and by doing that they open up more money to put people into place to convince LaMarcus to stick around.

Why for Charlotte: Stanley Johnson would not be a good fit next to MKG, so they move back a couple spots (picking up another 1st) and can take someone like Kelly Oubre or Miles Turner if they decide to go big. They give up Zeller in the deal in order to pave the way for Vonleh and to get the second first AND McCollum, who would be a great fit and provide some shooting they could really use at the 1 and 2. They could then take BPA at #23 and have another 2nd to potentially use on a draft and stash.

Why for Utah: The Jazz supposedly really liked Zeller when he was drafted, and now he appears to be a great fit as a 3rd big for Utah that can play next to either Favors or Gobert. The Jazz front office has said a few times that the Jazz are willing to trade their pick for the right veteran, and I think Batum fits the mold. A defensive lineup of Exum/Hayward/Batum/Favors/Gobert is ridiculous, and although Batum shot horribly this year, he is traditionally a good shooter and the Jazz would be banking on him returning to form under Snyder and a fresh situation. Jazz also swap Burke for Blake because Alec Burks and Trey probably duplicate each other off the bench, and Blake would provide some shooting and experience that the Jazz could use behind Exum.

[BeesWax]

Any thoughts on this trade I posted in the trade forum?

Portland trades: Nicolas Batum, CJ McCollum, Steve Blake, #23
Portland receives: #9, #42, Trey Burke

Charlotte trades: #9, Cody Zeller
Charlotte receives: #12, #23, #56, CJ McCollum

Utah trades: #12, #42, #56, Trey Burke
Utah receives: Nicolas Batum, Cody Zeller, Steve Blake


Why for Portland: Ditches the last year of Batum's contract after underwhelming this year, plus moves up from #23 to #9 for the mere cost of McCollum. They also get rid of Blake's last year and get a much younger Burke to replace him and learn under Lillard. At #9 they should be able to grab Stanley Johnson who would replace Batum on the wing, and by doing that they open up more money to put people into place to convince LaMarcus to stick around.

Why for Charlotte: Stanley Johnson would not be a good fit next to MKG, so they move back a couple spots (picking up another 1st) and can take someone like Kelly Oubre or Miles Turner if they decide to go big. They give up Zeller in the deal in order to pave the way for Vonleh and to get the second first AND McCollum, who would be a great fit and provide some shooting they could really use at the 1 and 2. They could then take BPA at #23 and have another 2nd to potentially use on a draft and stash.

Why for Utah: The Jazz supposedly really liked Zeller when he was drafted, and now he appears to be a great fit as a 3rd big for Utah that can play next to either Favors or Gobert. The Jazz front office has said a few times that the Jazz are willing to trade their pick for the right veteran, and I think Batum fits the mold. A defensive lineup of Exum/Hayward/Batum/Favors/Gobert is ridiculous, and although Batum shot horribly this year, he is traditionally a good shooter and the Jazz would be banking on him returning to form under Snyder and a fresh situation. Jazz also swap Burke for Blake because Alec Burks and Trey probably duplicate each other off the bench, and Blake would provide some shooting and experience that the Jazz could use behind Exum.

I value Zeller more than McCollum and a late first. Then moving down from 9 to 12 just makes it less appealing for me.

[slc24]

How about if the Jazz throw in a future 1st?

[yosemiteben]

I value Zeller more than McCollum and a late first. Then moving down from 9 to 12 just makes it less appealing for me.

Agree, that is a terrible trade IMO. Not at all interested in sending out a former top 5 pick and our top 10 pick this season to pick up three lower picks and McCollum. Adding another pick isn't going to make it better.

[BeesWax]

I value Zeller more than McCollum and a late first. Then moving down from 9 to 12 just makes it less appealing for me.

Agree, that is a terrible trade IMO. Not at all interested in sending out a former top 5 pick and our top 10 pick this season to pick up three lower picks and McCollum. Adding another pick isn't going to make it better.

It helps but not near enough to make me think about it. Zeller and 9 are the two most valuable pieces in our part of this trade IMO.

[yosemiteben]

I mean does anyone want four total draft picks in this draft? That's not attractive to me.

[JDR720]

If we trade Cody I would want a starting caliber wing in return. I dont think he has a lot of value, he is probably worth a pick in the mid-teens but we value him more than that.