Felton Signs With Knicks

[Paydro70]

Am I missing something here? His first 3 games are almost identical to last year's production (when you account for pace and minutes played).

[Marvel]

The thing that pissed me off about Felton is that he reached his ceiling about 4 years ago but for some reason i always thought it was higher.

[Diop]

The thing that pissed me off about Felton is that he reached his ceiling about 4 years ago but for some reason i always thought it was higher.

Same here, he developed so much better on NBA live 06

[tsherkin]

He looks like he doesn't know the first thing about how to play with Amare, that's my first impression of him in New York. It's sad, too, because D'Antoni knows his stuff about offense, particularly the PnR and how to get Amare going for elbow jumpers and rolls to the rim and everything. And Felton just... I'm hoping it's just early jitters and developing chemistry.

[Felton for Pres]

Am I missing something here? His first 3 games are almost identical to last year's production (when you account for pace and minutes played).

Which is still better than DJ's production

[Paydro70]

Am I missing something here? His first 3 games are almost identical to last year's production (when you account for pace and minutes played).

Which is still better than DJ's production

Huh? Before this game it was 17ppg to 16, both at 5-6 assists... and DJ was shooting better.

[daidalos]

I don't really see the point on this endless debate. Felton is an avarage player. And we can easily say that he won't be any better.

He is not that bad, that you could say he sucks bigtime, and he is not that good, that you could say he is a force on the court or a floor general. He is not good at anything.

And yes, if the Knicks would have Amare, Melo and Chandler, than Felts stat's would look great ... he had enough time here, with 3 head coaches to show us, that he could become a great player, but he failed. I am OK with the move that we let him go. He won't reach the heights of CP3 or Deron Williams, which is sad cause we would have been a great team last year if we would have an all-star caliber pg.

And I am with Paydro DJ is as good as Felton, which is not a compliment, but makes me feel better on letting Felton go.

And am I happy that we not traded for Calderon, that guy just sucks bigtime, and the Raps have to pay him nearly 30 M

[Marvel]

One thing i noticed watching the Bulls-Knicks game.Players and systems.....Felton is getting his assists off by throwing/kicking it out to shooters.He's still the same player he was playing here in Charlotte, but the Knicks floor spacing allows him to get those assists off with ease,one thing we never had was shooters.He's playing the p&r better but still can't figure out how to get it to Amare for the finish.

[tonman]

so what you are saying is that amare is good enough that he should make felton better or despite being "average" he should be performing like steve nash, former league mvp...

one of felts strength was you know what you are going to get out of him each and every night. now why the bobcats didn't keep him and spend their efforts on the gaping holes elsewhere in their lineup i have no freaking idea.

the knicks have a pg no matter how average he is. the are concerned about adding other pieces where they are "weak" at rather than try to get another ounce of production out of the PG spot.

they need a wing and guess what they're going after one - carmelo.

[DY_nasty]

so what you are saying is that amare is good enough that he should make felton better or despite being "average" he should be performing like steve nash, former league mvp...

one of felts strength was you know what you are going to get out of him each and every night. now why the bobcats didn't keep him and spend their efforts on the gaping holes elsewhere in their lineup i have no freaking idea.

the knicks have a pg no matter how average he is. the are concerned about adding other pieces where they are "weak" at rather than try to get another ounce of production out of the PG spot.

they need a wing and guess what they're going after one - carmelo.

everyone knows the knicks needed a point guard, but they sure as hell overpaid for an average in Felton.

Good luck with that whole Carmelo thing... never stop believing

[thruthefire]

everyone knows the knicks needed a point guard, but they sure as hell overpaid for an average in Felton.

His play in New York suggests otherwise, although it's still debatable whether the Bobcats should have matched.

[DY_nasty]

everyone knows the knicks needed a point guard, but they sure as hell overpaid for an average in Felton.

His play in New York suggests otherwise, although it's still debatable whether the Bobcats should have matched.

Because beat up on a bad Wizards team and just yesterday Felton was blessed with wing players that never miss from 3?

He's still the exact same guy just in a different system...

[Rich4114]

betcha we wouldn't be 1-4 if we still had him though.

[Marvel]

You need to actually watch how the Knicks play to understand Feltons stats are "inflated".They have better offensive players than we do,play at a much faster pace,shooters,finishers and D'Antoni isn't afraid of his players hoisting up 3 pointers.It's good to see him finally adjusting there though, but there's no way he was worth what he was asking for.
They are a playoff team this season.They could finish 46-36

[DY_nasty]

betcha we wouldn't be 1-4 if we still had him though.

Felton has a magic ability to make the whole team play better defense, reverse nazr's aging process, and make Jackson stop turning the ball over?!

Diop, Hendo, DJ, and a 1st for Ray! DO IT MJ

[truth serum]

I see a lot of hate for Felton in here. Those who are insisiting he is way overpaid....to get him on a 2 year deal was an absolute STEAL for Walsh, regardless of his salary. Knicks fans are loving this guy, especially considering how this whole team seems to fit together in general. Between Felton and Douglas, we have a nasty 1-2 punch at the 1 and are finally able to play the style of ball D'Antoni has been waiting to implement since he arrived here.

Felton's energy and leadership is infectious, his defense is stellar, he pushes the ball relentlessly and he's been MONEY from 3 point range so far. He's also been getting in the lane, finishing and dishing the ball very effectively! Even in the games the Knicks have lost so far, I can't find many things to complain about with Felton, if anything at all. I think whoever is downplaying Felton's worth has either not seen him run with this team yet, or are simply trying to justify not keeping him in Charlotte. But this guy is the real deal. Maybe not an all-star type PG, especially with Rose and Rondo in the east....but he is certainly a fine player and a great pick-up for the Knicks.

[BigSlam]

Knicks fans are loving this guy

Really? Because it only seems like it was last week that they wanted to tar, feather and run him out of town.

Oh, hang on a minute............

[truth serum]

Knicks fans are loving this guy

Really? Because it only seems like it was last week that they wanted to tar, feather and run him out of town.

Oh, hang on a minute............

Not sure I get the joke

But I will say this-

Don't judge the entire Knicks fan base based on what you've read from a bunch of posters on the RealGM Knicks board. That's like judging the entire human race based on comments people leave on youtube videos. Ouch.

Generally speaking, most sports fans who spend lots of time on message boards like these are impulsive, impatient and somewhat obsessive. This is the internet. That's what people are supposed to act like. A few iffy games in the preseason...I'm not surprised there were gobs of Knicks fans sitting at their computer desks, bitching and moaning about guys looking shaky and ineffective. People were ready to trade Gallinari for a set of coffee mugs up until the game against the Bulls where he found his stroke. That being said, real basketball heads knew everyone needed some extra time to settle into a completely new team and still do to a degree. Especially Felton who has a lot of responsibility as our new PG and primary playmaker. But at this point, as early as it is in the season, I think anyone with 2 eyes and half a brain can see that this guy is a baller. Like I said, he's not a star, but he's effective as hell and he's done exactly what Mike has asked of him and more.

If you guys have so many negative things to say about him, maybe the Bobcats' system/roster really was that bad of a fit for him. Or maybe he just relishes playing in New York that much. Maybe it's a combination of everything, including a summer of hard work that seems to have paid off for not only Felton, but all of the Knicks who are well-conditioned and knocking down their jumpers at a nice clip. Raymond's stroke is certainly better than advertised. Whatever the case may be, the way he's played so far is nothing like the player you guys are talking about over here. It is what it is, like it or not.

[BigSlam]

There are loads of things to really like about Raymond's game. There are also major flaws. Doesn't make him a horrible player - just makes him human I guess.

He is what he is which is pretty much what he has and always will be.

[truth serum]

^That was poetic.





...and yes, of course he has flaws in his game, but he's also very far from a horrible player. I think what it boils down to is that he is simply a better fit for the Knicks than he was for the 'Cats. I also think that he is in the prime of his career and is more mature and more motivated to succeed than he has been in the past. Amar'e has been a great influence on him as well. At least that is how it looks in the early going. Plenty of games left to judge him on, though.