The Bismack Biyombo Thread

Post #601 » by **fatlever** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:01 pm

i'd vote for kareem

Post #602 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:14 pm

Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?

ohara · Post #603 » by **ohara** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:16 pm

BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?

Nope. Steph has injury concerns. Too much upside for Biz to make that trade.

Post #604 » by **fatlever** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 7:54 pm

BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?

yes. i would take that gamble. steph is an all-star level point guard. while i have high hopes for biz, there is no guarantee he will get to steph's level one day. we could then probably move kemba or dj for a young big man with upside.

captaincrunk · Post #605 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:27 pm

BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?

Kemba yes, Bismack no.

NataFresh · Post #606 » by **NataFresh** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:27 pm

BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?

No only because we don't know what ceiling Biz has yet.....plus the whole thing about never trading big for small......

dmutombo321 · Post #607 » by **dmutombo321** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:30 pm

^ if not for Curry's chronic ankle problems, then Yes without hesitation..

Otherwise, I would want to first wait and see Curry finish out the year without any further issues.

If we end up with #1 and end up drafting Anthony Davis as our 4, it's going to create a logjam. Biyombo can play some 5 but he is not a full time 5. I value him very highly and would be reluctant to trading him but you'd have a hard time passing on a playe rlike Curry

captaincrunk · Post #608 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:33 pm

dmutombo321 wrote:^ if not for Curry's chronic ankle problems, then Yes without hesitation..

Otherwise, I would want to first wait and see Curry finish out the year without any further issues.

If we end up with #1 and end up drafting Anthony Davis as our 4, it's going to create a logjam. Biyombo can play some 5 but he is not a full time 5. I value him very highly and would be reluctant to trading him but you'd have a hard time passing on a playe rlike Curry

Well you also have to think, it'll be almost a whole year (like 9 months or so) before they'd see the floor together. That's a lot of reps. I don't know if Bismack can do it, or can't. But it's not like the draft is tonight either.

HornetJail · Post #609 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:12 pm

BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?

Not Biyombo, but I'd do it for Walker. Curry's ankle is definitely a cause of concern, but it's worth the risk. Curry is a future superstar.

captaincrunk · Post #610 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:20 pm

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?
Not Biyombo, but I'd do it for Walker. Curry's ankle is definitely a cause of concern, but it's worth the risk. Curry is a future superstar.

When does he stop being a future superstar and start being one? He and Augustin are only a few months apart... Do you really think he has that much room to develop?

Eoghan · Post #611 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:35 pm

dmutombo321 wrote:If we end up with #1 and end up drafting Anthony Davis as our 4, it's going to create a logjam. Biyombo can play some 5 but he is not a full time 5.

Why isn't he? Besides, he's only 19 and might actually grow a little more. It seems like a given that he'll bulk up quite a bit too.

Stun704 · Post #612 » by **Stun704** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:48 pm

dmutombo321 wrote:^ if not for Curry's chronic ankle problems, then Yes without hesitation..

Otherwise, I would want to first wait and see Curry finish out the year without any further issues.

If we end up with #1 and end up drafting Anthony Davis as our 4, it's going to create a logjam. Biyombo can play some 5 but he is not a full time 5. I value him very highly and would be reluctant to trading him but you'd have a hard time passing on a playe rlike Curry

Foolish statement, Biyombo is more of a 5 then Mullens and Hawes combined, Biyombo has the athleticism needed to play the 5 and has a longer wingspan then dwight howard, just because hes not a white center who plays euro style'd ball doesn't mean hes isn't anymore capable of playing center then any of the lower tier centers you covet so much.

Stun704 · Post #613 » by **Stun704** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:49 pm

BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?

No, never trade a big for a PG, plus if Kemba for whatever reason doesn't pan out, I'm sure Steph would sign here once hes a UFA

doc.end · Post #614 » by **doc.end** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 11:55 pm

No. For the reason already mentioned and sure not before draft day this year. I think Bismack > any young big man we could get for DJ or Kemba. Drummond or Davis may be another story but then it would be a nice problem to solve or rather no problem at all (there are two starting big men spots and most probably both won´t be their best case scenarios) Current value wise we should say yea but I would rather hold lottery tickets we draw and hope they pan out and if not then repeat then rush things building around injury prone main piece. Good point is Curry is one of the few that would be more willing to sign with Charlotte via free agency anyway.

HornetJail · Post #615 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:46 am

captaincrunk wrote:
CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?
Not Biyombo, but I'd do it for Walker. Curry's ankle is definitely a cause of concern, but it's worth the risk. Curry is a future superstar.

When does he stop being a future superstar and start being one? He and Augustin are only a few months apart... Do you really think he has that much room to develop?

It's only Curry's third year in the league. He's 23 years old and hasn't even gotten into his prime yet. He's already become a star, if he doesn't take that step to superstardom in the next two or three years, then he probably won't.

And his ceiling is a lot higher than Augustin. Augustin won't ever be an All-Star, but he also has some room for improvement.

Kabookalu · Post #616 » by **Kabookalu** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:47 am

Even disregarding Biyombo's potential, I wouldn't do the trade. Remember that this is a point guard's league and guys like Curry are slowly becoming saturated. You won't get someone at Curry's level, but if you were able to trade for say a Devin Harris while being able to keep Biyombo, I'd rather do that.

And also while this is turning into a point guards league, it is still big men that dictate the sport. Now considering potential, Biyombo could be a game changer, one that would will be highly coveted in the coming years, that it may be Golden State that will be knocking on Charlotte's door offering Curry for Biyombo.

SWedd523 · Post #617 » by **SWedd523** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:48 am

I love Steph myself, but is he really a "star"?

captaincrunk · Post #618 » by **captaincrunk** » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:12 am

Stun704 wrote:
dmutombo321 wrote:^ if not for Curry's chronic ankle problems, then Yes without hesitation..

Otherwise, I would want to first wait and see Curry finish out the year without any further issues.

If we end up with #1 and end up drafting Anthony Davis as our 4, it's going to create a logjam. Biyombo can play some 5 but he is not a full time 5. I value him very highly and would be reluctant to trading him but you'd have a hard time passing on a playe rlike Curry

Foolish statement, Biyombo is more of a 5 then Mullens and Hawes combined, Biyombo has the athleticism needed to play the 5 and has a longer wingspan then dwight howard, just because hes not a white center who plays euro style'd ball doesn't mean hes isn't anymore capable of playing center then any of the lower tier centers you covet so much.

What? 4s are generally more athletic than 5s by far. That's just silly.

Stun704 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Who would trade Biz for Steph Curry - straight up?

No, never trade a big for a PG, plus if Kemba for whatever reason doesn't pan out, I'm sure Steph would sign here once hes a UFA

Biz for Rose? :lol:

advanced · Post #619 » by **advanced** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:35 pm

since ive been studying NCAA guys pretty closely lately got me thinkin.......

what do you guys think Bismack would have averaged if he was in the NCAA this year? could he have had an anthony davis type impact maybe with less scoring? could he turn NCST into a tournament team? lol

captaincrunk · Post #620 » by **captaincrunk** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:08 pm

advanced wrote:since ive been studying NCAA guys pretty closely lately got me thinkin.......

what do you guys think Bismack would have averaged if he was in the NCAA this year? could he have had an anthony davis type impact maybe with less scoring? could he turn NCST into a tournament team? lol

He would be a man among boys this year, probably. He killed the top talent at the hoop summit, including anthony davis.