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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#601 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Mar 4, 2014 2:58 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:Pistons losing to the Knicks. They are tanking as bad as anyone in the league right now.


The pistons beat the Knicks..it's like the pistons want us to have this pick.


Thank God. Last I checked they were down.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#602 » by HornetJail » Tue Mar 4, 2014 3:04 am

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countryboi wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Pistons losing to the Knicks. They are tanking as bad as anyone in the league right now.


The pistons beat the Knicks..it's like the pistons want us to have this pick.


Thank God. Last I checked they were down.

At this point, I think the top 8 are pretty much set unless someone really turns it around or just flops, with Cleveland, New York, Detroit, Orlando, Philly, Boston, and Milwaukee missing out. Detroit is the best of that bunch, but I have a very hard time taking them over Atlanta, Brooklyn, or us.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#603 » by JDR720 » Tue Mar 4, 2014 3:09 am

The Pisstons play the Bulls next....that is probably an L
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#604 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Mar 4, 2014 12:50 pm

The pick sits at 11 with the Knicks 4 losses worse than the Pistons.

We're getting this pick at 9, 10 or 11.

And Chad Ford's crew at ESPN insists it's Vonleh on the high end and Harris on the low end. It makes sense because the team needs an upgrade of SG or PF. With Zeller playing much better lately, I can see how they would go with Gary Harris.

Then your future young Hornets of all homegrown lottery picks:

Kemba Walker
Gary Harris
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Cody Zeller
Bizmack Biyombo

Hopefully we can do something with cap space.

It needs to be a legit star.
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Post#605 » by countryboi » Tue Mar 4, 2014 1:12 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:The pick sits at 11 with the Knicks 4 losses worse than the Pistons.

We're getting this pick at 9, 10 or 11.

And Chad Ford's crew at ESPN insists it's Vonleh on the high end and Harris on the low end. It makes sense because the team needs an upgrade of SG or PF. With Zeller playing much better lately, I can see how they would go with Gary Harris.

Then your future young Hornets of all homegrown lottery picks:

Kemba Walker
Gary Harris
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Cody Zeller
Bizmack Biyombo

Hopefully we can do something with cap space.

It needs to be a legit star.


i just dont see how Gary Harris and Vonleh make us better. it may make us worse
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#606 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Mar 4, 2014 1:19 pm

countryboi wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:The pick sits at 11 with the Knicks 4 losses worse than the Pistons.

We're getting this pick at 9, 10 or 11.

And Chad Ford's crew at ESPN insists it's Vonleh on the high end and Harris on the low end. It makes sense because the team needs an upgrade of SG or PF. With Zeller playing much better lately, I can see how they would go with Gary Harris.

Then your future young Hornets of all homegrown lottery picks:

Kemba Walker
Gary Harris
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Cody Zeller
Bizmack Biyombo

Hopefully we can do something with cap space.

It needs to be a legit star.


i just dont see how Gary Harris and Vonleh make us better. it may make us worse


Yeah I know but this team plays it safe. They won't trade up for higher upside guys like Randle or Smart and they won't reach for higher upside guys like LaVine or Young.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#607 » by lmcguir5 » Tue Mar 4, 2014 4:20 pm

Drafting Vonleh has no implications of immediate success. This guy is just as raw as the next talent, albeit his ceiling is higher. This is the type of guy who will struggle defensively in his first few seasons in the NBA against the larger PF's in this league. I have been a defender of Zeller all along and I am not trying to stoke another argument, but I do believe he is getting better.

From the looks of the team's current play, I would warrant the guess that Henderson won't be around much longer. His performance is starting to resemble that of DeRozan, but not in the good way, the inefficient way. Hendo nearly single handedly murdered us down the stretch against the Spurs. Why wouldn't we want Gary Harris?

Sure he's not Bradley Beal, but we would benefit from having a slasher that can jump out of the gym like Harris, for 1/3 of what we're paying Henderson for a similar player. If we can get supplemental picks from a Henderson trade, that would allow us to build more depth or we could take back a player who's ready right now to start while Harris gets his feet wet in the NBA speed. Our team would be incredibly green and unproven I understand that, but with his potential, I would take a gamble with him rather than with Vonleh
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#608 » by yosemiteben » Tue Mar 4, 2014 4:31 pm

Not gonna lie I kind of stopped paying attention to Gary Harris since MSU kept losing games they shouldn't and I lost interest in that team. With that said, he seems REALLY streaky. Look at his shooting from three his last four games:

5-10
4-13
6-9
1-7

On the season he's just 41.7% from the field and 34.7% from three. Not all that exciting.

By contrast Stauskas is shooting 48% from the field and 44% from three as Michigan's only real scoring threat. His numbers and shooting %'s have actually improved from last season when he was less of a focal point for defenses. He might not be as athletic as Harris, but he does have a couple inches on him and with his decent lateral quickness and 6'6" height he could get by at SG.

We need shooting, and I'm solidly in the McDermott / Stauskas camp with the DET pick.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#609 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Mar 4, 2014 4:38 pm

What did Beal shoot in college?
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#610 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Mar 4, 2014 4:42 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:What did Beal shoot in college?


34% on 3-pointers
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#611 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Mar 4, 2014 4:45 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:What did Beal shoot in college?


34% on 3-pointers


Yeah I figure it was low. If they think he can shoot then they will draft him (Harris). He's a better defender than Beal and more versatile on offense. Of course he won't shoot 40% from 3 but the threat of a 3-pt shooter on the perimeter alone helps this team with its issues.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#612 » by yosemiteben » Tue Mar 4, 2014 4:46 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:What did Beal shoot in college?

45% from the field (so a little better than Harris), but actually a little worse than Harris from three (33.9%). With that said, obviously that's no guarantee that Harris will be as productive as Beal has been.

My problem with Harris is that he is trending down from last season, which is a little concerning. I know that MSU has had some injury issues though so maybe he's carrying too much of a load.

Still think Stauskas is the far superior shooter, but with his athleticism I'd expect that Harris has higher upside when it comes to defense. Interesting juxtaposition.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#613 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Mar 4, 2014 4:49 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:What did Beal shoot in college?


34% on 3-pointers


Yeah I figure it was low. If they think he can shoot then they will draft him (Harris). He's a better defender than Beal and more versatile on offense. Of course he won't shoot 40% from 3 but the threat of a 3-pt shooter on the perimeter alone helps this team with its issues.


I don't know if Harris is a better defender than Beal. Beal was considered a defensive savant until he got to the NBA and they realized that he was impartially undersized as a SG, the same way Harris will be

I didn't like the idea of Beal on the Bobcats, and similarly & moreso I don't like the thought of Harris on the Hornets
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#614 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Mar 4, 2014 4:52 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
34% on 3-pointers


Yeah I figure it was low. If they think he can shoot then they will draft him (Harris). He's a better defender than Beal and more versatile on offense. Of course he won't shoot 40% from 3 but the threat of a 3-pt shooter on the perimeter alone helps this team with its issues.


I don't know if Harris is a better defender than Beal. Beal was considered a defensive savant until he got to the NBA and they realized that he was impartially undersized as a SG, the same way Harris will be

I didn't like the idea of Beal on the Bobcats, and similarly & moreso I don't like the thought of Harris on the Hornets


I'm becoming more neutral now and trusting their drafting more that I see Zeller showing glimpses. I believe they love Harris. And I don't see them spending money on a free agent that jolts Henderson to the bench. I see them nudging him their gradually so they plan to draft a young SG who will do that. They can draft him and just not throw him in the fire, like they did with Zeller.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#615 » by Eoghan » Tue Mar 4, 2014 5:17 pm

Honestly, Stauskas might be a better athlete than Harris, Harris is by no means a good athlete or leaper.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#616 » by SeanBobcats » Tue Mar 4, 2014 8:43 pm

Do you guys think it would possible for us to deal hendo, zeller, Detroit pick for ibaka?
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#617 » by JDR720 » Tue Mar 4, 2014 9:02 pm

SeanBobcats wrote:Do you guys think it would possible for us to deal hendo, zeller, Detroit pick for ibaka?

i doubt it, OKC chose Ibaka over Harden, and Gerald would mess up their offensive flow with his isolations
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#618 » by SeanBobcats » Wed Mar 5, 2014 2:14 am

JDR720 wrote:
SeanBobcats wrote:Do you guys think it would possible for us to deal hendo, zeller, Detroit pick for ibaka?

i doubt it, OKC chose Ibaka over Harden, and Gerald would mess up their offensive flow with his isolations


yea i figured the same. Ibaka would be a really good fit for us though.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#619 » by Elden Payton » Wed Mar 5, 2014 3:43 am

We're currently at 11 and 26.

ESPN mock has us taking Gary Harris and Sam Dekker.
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Re: Charlotte 2014 Picks Watch Thread 

Post#620 » by JDR720 » Wed Mar 5, 2014 3:45 am

Sik Infant wrote:We're currently at 11 and 26.

ESPN mock has us taking Gary Harris and Sam Dekker.

i would be happy with those picks i guess not sure about Dekker, you can only have so many white dudes before you turn into the Southern Timberwolves

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