fatlever wrote:better backups than biz? i think there are a lot of older vets who would be better for our team than biz is right now. as great as biz's defense is, he is so horrible on offense that you cant leave him on the floor for any length of time.
keep in mind this list is guys who are better right now, not a list of guys i would trade biz for
some names to consider:
elton brand - he is pretty much washed up at this point, but i would trust him with 10 mins in a playoff game more than biz right now.
brook lopez, kevin garnett, andrey blatche and maybe plumlee - depending on who you consider the nets centers, they have four that are arguably better than biz
anderson varejao/spencer hawes - whichever you consider to be the starter or backup, could also throw tyler zeller in the discussion.
brandan wright - he's been injured most of the year, but when he plays, he puts up numbers in limited minutes.
jj hickson, javale mcgee - whichever you consider to be the starter if all are healthy, mozgov arguable.
jermaine oneal - like brand, old and past it, but i would trust him in a playoff series.
omer asik
chris kaman - maybe? he is clearly better offensively, but its been so long since kaman tried hard. if motivated with the right minutes, he'd be an upgrade on our 2nd unit.
kosta koufus - maybe
jon henson, larry sanders - henson definitely, sanders if he is anything like last year (minus his idiot brain)
boris diaw, tiago splitter - depending on who is starting that day
drew gooden - hard to argue with what he has done the past month for the wiz.
so go ahead and gasp with horror at my list, but i'd argue that if any of those players were on our team they would either easily take biz's minutes or at share minutes with biz depending on matchups. our 2nd unit is in dire need of offense right now. when biz gets a quick hook its always because the 2nd unit is struggling to score. in a perfect world biz would see minutes with 4 players good enough offensively they could make up for his lack of offense. that is not the case with us.
i dont think clifford loves biz nearly as much as we do (for the record, biz is still my favorite player on the team and i never want to see him play anywhere else).
Fats I know you're a Biz fan, and I wouldn't question it, and I'm happy to discuss this further in the Biyombo thread.
I agree with @BizGilwalker that I'd take Biz over nearly every guy on that list taking into context what you'd actually want from a backup 5, half thr guys you listed are PF's, starters, guys on huge contracts, guys who are injured and guys who are washed up.
There are plenty of factors including contract, age, production, character and upside that you'd want from a backup 5.
Biz's offense is not even a problem considering he's backing up the best offensive 5 in the game.
How many teams have elite rim protectors, let alone elite rim protectors coming off their bench (the role you'd ideally want specialists to play)
In a perfect world you'd take Asik's 15m, Lopez's 15m, Sanders 10m or Garnett's 10m as your backup 5 over Biz right now but it's not a perfect world.
For the record the first time I thought about this was the second last time we played Memphis and the CC actually discussed Biyombo in some depth and stated something along the lines of, he could be the best backup 5 in the league.
I'm happy to discuss this further in the appropriate thread!
