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Benjamin Linus wrote:We might be giving up too much in this one, but would you guys trade Kemba and Zeller for the 6th pick and whatever contracts Sacramento can add to make it work?
With the 6th pick we take Mario or Justise and with the 9th we take Payne? Payne-Mario-MKG-Vonleh would be interesting.
Braggins wrote:Is there any way to trade Al for Calderon with the trade/salary rules? If we could use Al and maybe a pick to move up instead of giving up Zeller, I would do it regardless of how the top 3 goes. I dont even care who we select with the pick. I'd probably be fine with anyone who would be at the top of our draft board at 4 except possibly Mudiay. At least 2 of Russell, Porzingis, and Hezonja, will be available. I can't imagine us screwing up too bad from that position in this draft.
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Braggins wrote:Is there any way to trade Al for Calderon with the trade/salary rules? If we could use Al and maybe a pick to move up instead of giving up Zeller, I would do it regardless of how the top 3 goes. I dont even care who we select with the pick. I'd probably be fine with anyone who would be at the top of our draft board at 4 except possibly Mudiay. At least 2 of Russell, Porzingis, and Hezonja, will be available. I can't imagine us screwing up too bad from that position in this draft.
After the draft, once all the Knicks contracts come off the books they would have the cap room to do that trade. You don't have to wait if it's a guy like Marvin, Hendo, or Zeller instead of Al.
jdm3 wrote:If the interest from the Sixers in Prozingis is real I would look hard to move up for Russell. The only way to get a true game changer out of this draft is to get up and grab Russell. If it costs me Zeller I am fine with that as long as we get a potential star player. I would doubt the Knicks trade if he is there but I would think we should be all over it in that case.
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:I'm still predicting Matt Barnes to OKC for Lamb and someone else. I think that the 2nd player depends on if we swap picks or not.
LofJ wrote:Kid has filled out quite a bit over the last 3 years
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6587435
Move Henderson to prevent Clifford from starting him and we swap 9 and 14 with OKC to draft Payne.
LofJ wrote:We're going to have to pay someone next season with the cap jump and all of our veteran contracts expiring. So I don't see why that should be a concern at all. If it's not Lamb we trade for it needs to be someone else and all other things being equal I'd rather trade for the guy who will be a RFA and still be under our control if we want to keep him. The situation with OKC is about as good as it gets when it comes to a trade down scenario, we won't find any better unless we're willing to take future picks to move back with a team like Boston.
jdm3 wrote:LofJ wrote:We're going to have to pay someone next season with the cap jump and all of our veteran contracts expiring. So I don't see why that should be a concern at all. If it's not Lamb we trade for it needs to be someone else and all other things being equal I'd rather trade for the guy who will be a RFA and still be under our control if we want to keep him. The situation with OKC is about as good as it gets when it comes to a trade down scenario, we won't find any better unless we're willing to take future picks to move back with a team like Boston.
They would likely just go PJIII and Lamb for Barnes with no picks to cut space. It is a waste of a drop down when we do them a favor and fall back. I would rather just trade Barnes for those two then maybe Zeller for 11 and draft Booker and Payne. Something like that would be a huge draft night for us.
LofJ wrote:jdm3 wrote:LofJ wrote:We're going to have to pay someone next season with the cap jump and all of our veteran contracts expiring. So I don't see why that should be a concern at all. If it's not Lamb we trade for it needs to be someone else and all other things being equal I'd rather trade for the guy who will be a RFA and still be under our control if we want to keep him. The situation with OKC is about as good as it gets when it comes to a trade down scenario, we won't find any better unless we're willing to take future picks to move back with a team like Boston.
They would likely just go PJIII and Lamb for Barnes with no picks to cut space. It is a waste of a drop down when we do them a favor and fall back. I would rather just trade Barnes for those two then maybe Zeller for 11 and draft Booker and Payne. Something like that would be a huge draft night for us.
I guess in that scenario we should just draft Payne at 9. There's no guarantee we'll be able to get Lamb from them though if we don't swap picks. They might find an offer from someone else they like more, so to hedge our bets it's probably better to pick whoever out of Payne, Booker, Oubre, etc. we like best and then survey the trade market once the draft is over and free agency is underway.
jdm3 wrote:Lamb and Novak for Barnes
Zeller for 11
Draft SG and Payne
Kemba/Payne/Roberts
Henderson/Lamb/SG
MKG/Hairston
Williams/Vonleh/Novak
Al/Hawes/Biz
Some more trades would be nice for Hendo and Al but it is a start. Balances out our youth a little.
