Fake Trade Thread #7

[JMAC3]

Getting to the point where trade back ideas are getting way too rich lol.. so when we finally do trade back everyone will be disappointed—- so yeah everything on track haha

Yeah like when we thought trading back with New Orleans would get us Dyson Daniels.

Never was going to happen but the rumours drove me to believing it was possible

What situation was this?

[MasterIchiro]

Jalen Green has the Jordan Poole contract.

It's a negative trade asset.

Hornets have some negative trade assets though:

Josh Green
Grant Williams

If some GM considers Green positive or if the Suns consider Green + Grant more negative, simply add picks 33 & 34, giving Suns a deeper draft to round out their still top-heavy roster.

[HornetJail]

Jalen Green has the Jordan Poole contract.

It's a negative trade asset.

Hornets have some negative trade assets though:

Josh Green
Grant Williams

If some GM considers Green positive or if the Suns consider Green + Grant more negative, simply add picks 33 & 34, giving Suns a deeper draft to round out their still top-heavy roster.

I would much much rather have Josh+Grant than 3/105M of Jalen Green

all are negative, but there's degrees to this and I think Jalen Green is pretty close to rock bottom

[fatlever]

Disagree Grant is a negative asset unless his knee is completely cooked, which I doubt.

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[JMAC3]

Pass on Jalen Green for me, he is talented and someone should make a move for him but he is just a bad fit for us. Especially at that price tag, it is different taking a prospect that might not fit great but paying a guy 100+ million limits the way you can build out the roster moving forward.

[Bassman]

Pass on Jalen Green for me, he is talented and someone should make a move for him but he is just a bad fit for us. Especially at that price tag, it is different taking a prospect that might not fit great but paying a guy 100+ million limits the way you can build out the roster moving forward.

No kidding. The Hornets SI site is just a quickie read, don’t take much of it seriously. The following trade concept they had to facilitate a Durant trade is an example of their regular bad trade concepts:

Trade Proposal
Rockets Receive: Kevin Durant, Moussa Diabate and No. 29 overall pick
Suns Receive: Miles Bridges, Mark Williams, Reed Sheppard, Cam Whitmore, Aaron Holiday and the No. 10 overall pick
Hornets Receive: Jalen Green and Jock Landale

They love it cause we still have the 4 pick, which they then speculate we could trade back to draft Maluach. UGH. We give up Mark, AND Moussa on a great contract, AND Miles who, for all his faults, is a pretty decent player….just to take on an undersized overpriced SG and a journeyman 29 year old center. HECK NO!

[MasterIchiro]

LaMelo has Miller as a sidekick, but Jalen Green gives him two #2 scoring threats.

LaMelo - Jalen Green - Miller just needs defense at the big positions at 4 & 5.

[HornetJail]

LaMelo has Miller as a sidekick, but Jalen Green gives him two #2 scoring threats.

LaMelo - Jalen Green - Miller just needs defense at the big positions at 4 & 5.

Green isn't the level of scorer you think he is. there are quite a lot of players available for a fraction of the cost that would put up close to his 20ppg and no other contributions if you gave them 17 FGA/game.

I'd consider Gary Trent Jr a comparable player, and he got completely shut out of the market last year and sign a MINIMUM with the Bucks.

[Bassman]

Matt Aquina posted his mock draft on Hornets SI. His speculation is the team, with VJ off the board, will trade back with one of several teams to select K-Nipple. Then he has another trade (my hope as well) to send both second round picks to Orlando for the 25, where the buzz grab Maxime Raynaud. It’s just speculation but an interesting take.

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/draft/nba-mock-draft-projecting-the-charlotte-hornets-4th-overall-pick-and-a-late-first-trade-up

[JustBuzzin]

Matt Aquina posted his mock draft on Hornets SI. His speculation is the team, with VJ off the board, will trade back with one of several teams to select K-Nipple. Then he has another trade (my hope as well) to send both second round picks to Orlando for the 25, where the buzz grab Maxime Raynaud. It’s just speculation but an interesting take.

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/draft/nba-mock-draft-projecting-the-charlotte-hornets-4th-overall-pick-and-a-late-first-trade-up

That sounds like worst case scenario.

For the love of Gauuddd where is this Kon hype coming from. Peterson is bad at this if Kon is truly his guy.

Imagine taking a job and your first 2 draft picks are Salaun and Kon. Like this is what you selling Charlotte fans?

[Diop]

Getting to the point where trade back ideas are getting way too rich lol.. so when we finally do trade back everyone will be disappointed—- so yeah everything on track haha

Yeah like when we thought trading back with New Orleans would get us Dyson Daniels.

Never was going to happen but the rumours drove me to believing it was possible

What situation was this?

The New Orleans Pelicans are expected to "aggressively pursue" a trade for one of the top picks in this month's draft in an effort to land point guard Scoot Henderson, The Athletic's Shams Charania reported, citing sources, on Monday.

[JMAC3]

Yeah like when we thought trading back with New Orleans would get us Dyson Daniels.

Never was going to happen but the rumours drove me to believing it was possible

What situation was this?

The New Orleans Pelicans are expected to "aggressively pursue" a trade for one of the top picks in this month's draft in an effort to land point guard Scoot Henderson, The Athletic's Shams Charania reported, citing sources, on Monday.

Oh yeah I don’t think that was ever a thing, we picked 2nd took Miller. Pelicans had the 14th pick and Dyson was a throw in level player at that point in time.

[Diop]

What situation was this?

The New Orleans Pelicans are expected to "aggressively pursue" a trade for one of the top picks in this month's draft in an effort to land point guard Scoot Henderson, The Athletic's Shams Charania reported, citing sources, on Monday.

Oh yeah I don’t think that was ever a thing, we picked 2nd took Miller. Pelicans had the 14th pick and Dyson was a throw in level player at that point in time.

he was, but i had a gut feeling he would be better. i am happy we took Miller though.

i didn't remember it being pick 14.

[Braggins]

I'm calling Utah and offering Miles + Nurkic + NSJr + 2026 1st* + 2027 1st (DAL) + 2025 #34 for Lauri Markkanen

* ~ from Phoenix trade

[HornetJail]

I'm calling Utah and offering Miles + Nurkic + NSJr + 2026 1st* + 2027 1st (DAL) + 2025 #34 for Lauri Markkanen

* ~ from Phoenix trade

they are very obviously not doing that

[Braggins]

I'm calling Utah and offering Miles + Nurkic + NSJr + 2026 1st* + 2027 1st (DAL) + 2025 #34 for Lauri Markkanen

* ~ from Phoenix trade

they are very obviously not doing that

This would be to get the conversation started.

I value Miles as late 1st value. NSJr at early 2nd. Nurkic neutral as an expiring. Total value wise that would be roughly equivalent to two late 1sts, one mystery 1st (Dallas), and two early 2nds. Bane was dealt for negative multi year contracts and essentially four mid to late 1sts. This offer is less than that, but in a similar ball park, and Lauri is on a worse contract than Bane with a worse injury history and coming off his worst year in a while.

Add a third 1st from the Hornets and its very similar value to the Bane offer. I'm not sure what exactly Utah is looking for, but if they are trying to move Markkanen I don't think they are getting better than three 1sts for him. Hornets could offer three 1sts, Miles, and premium 2nds, and still own all their 1sts.

[JMAC3]

I agree that return isn’t being considered by Utah.

[HornetJail]

I'm calling Utah and offering Miles + Nurkic + NSJr + 2026 1st* + 2027 1st (DAL) + 2025 #34 for Lauri Markkanen

* ~ from Phoenix trade

they are very obviously not doing that

This would be to get the conversation started.

I value Miles as late 1st value. NSJr at early 2nd. Nurkic neutral as an expiring. Total value wise that would be roughly equivalent to two late 1sts, one mystery 1st (Dallas), and two early 2nds. Bane was dealt for negative multi year contracts and essentially four mid to late 1sts. This offer is less than that, but in a similar ball park, and Lauri is on a worse contract than Bane with a worse injury history and coming off his worst year in a while.

Add a third 1st from the Hornets and its very similar value to the Bane offer. I'm not sure what exactly Utah is looking for, but if they are trying to move Markkanen I don't think they are getting better than three 1sts for him. Hornets could offer three 1sts, Miles, and premium 2nds, and still own all their 1sts.

they aren't coming to the table without #4 being included

[Braggins]

they aren't coming to the table without #4 being included

I strongly disagree. Bane got #16 and a bunch of picks that are likely to be late 1sts. The best asset that KD returned was #10 in the draft.

Lauri is somewhat injury prone, makes 50 million a year for the next four years, and is coming off a season where he averaged 19/6/1.5 with his worst scoring efficiency of the last 5 seasons. I wouldn't trade the 4th pick for Lauri straight up and I don't think many teams would.

I don't think Lauri will get as much in a trade as Bane did.

[fatlever]

fwiw, agree lauri's value Should be less than Banes' value. Bane, on a better contract, was clearly a better two way player and had proven it in the playoffs multiple years. lauri with zero playoff experience, and missed a ton of games last few years.