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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#681 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 2:59 am

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The way how their cap space is set up, they better be absolutely sure that Parsons is the 3rd fiddle to Harden & Howard before they offer him that extension, or else...

...bust, bust, bust into luxury tax hell


The way Parsons has played this post season id be more concerned about Harden than him.

Now you want to talk about someone that doesn't play D, damn, Harden plays defense like my grandmother screws.

how would you know that?


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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#682 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 1, 2014 3:07 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:The way Parsons has played this post season id be more concerned about Harden than him.

Now you want to talk about someone that doesn't play D, damn, Harden plays defense like my grandmother screws.


Harden has elite talent, basketball IQ, and etc. but he also has a poor attitude towards the game, and it wouldn't surprise me if he turn into a locker room cancer in Houston within another 2-3 years if he isn't already
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#683 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 3:11 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:The way Parsons has played this post season id be more concerned about Harden than him.

Now you want to talk about someone that doesn't play D, damn, Harden plays defense like my grandmother screws.


Harden has elite talent, basketball IQ, and etc. but he also has a poor attitude towards the game, and it wouldn't surprise me if he turn into a locker room cancer in Houston within another 2-3 years if he isn't already


He has elite scoring talent. His defense is absolutely atrocious. Hes a good guy and everything, but he lacks as much on the defensive end as much as he gains the team on the offensive end. I think thats why Houston started out with Beverley starting at PG as opposed to Lin.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#684 » by Marvel » Thu May 1, 2014 3:12 am

Harden gives 2 **** about defense. It's sad to see a star player like himself have such a poor attitude to the other side of basketball. I wouldn't be surprised if the Blazers win tonight or the series Dwight throws him under the bus for his **** D. It's really really really bad.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#685 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 1, 2014 3:17 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:The way Parsons has played this post season id be more concerned about Harden than him.

Now you want to talk about someone that doesn't play D, damn, Harden plays defense like my grandmother screws.


Harden has elite talent, basketball IQ, and etc. but he also has a poor attitude towards the game, and it wouldn't surprise me if he turn into a locker room cancer in Houston within another 2-3 years if he isn't already


He has elite scoring talent. His defense is absolutely atrocious. Hes a good guy and everything, but he lacks as much on the defensive end as much as he gains the team on the offensive end. I think thats why Houston started out with Beverley starting at PG as opposed to Lin.


I don't think McHale really holds him accountable. He may discuss, complain, and bicker about it but he obviously doesn't garner Harden's respect on the issue. Harden put forth a valiant effort defensively when he was with the Thunder, and that's why I believe he could still do the same, but he's like a teacher's pet now that he's a max-contract guy. There's only so much they can do to reprimand him
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#686 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 3:20 am

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Harden has elite talent, basketball IQ, and etc. but he also has a poor attitude towards the game, and it wouldn't surprise me if he turn into a locker room cancer in Houston within another 2-3 years if he isn't already


He has elite scoring talent. His defense is absolutely atrocious. Hes a good guy and everything, but he lacks as much on the defensive end as much as he gains the team on the offensive end. I think thats why Houston started out with Beverley starting at PG as opposed to Lin.


I don't think McHale really holds him accountable. He may discuss, complain, and bicker about it but he obviously doesn't garner Harden's respect on the issue. Harden put forth a valiant effort defensively when he was with the Thunder, and that's why I believe he could still do the same, but he's like a teacher's pet now that he's a max-contract guy. There's only so much they can do to reprimand him


I think Harden looked better defensively than he really was coming off the bench with OKC. He still garnered a lot of the minutes, but some of those minutes were against back up SG's that were not in his league, at all.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#687 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 1, 2014 3:23 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:I think Harden looked better defensively than he really was coming off the bench with OKC. He still garnered a lot of the minutes, but some of those minutes were against back up SG's that were not in his league, at all.


I disagree. Harden played top notch defense against above average players. Harden may have came off the bench, but he played starters' minutes against starters. Fame & money is a powerful drug
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#688 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 3:25 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:I think Harden looked better defensively than he really was coming off the bench with OKC. He still garnered a lot of the minutes, but some of those minutes were against back up SG's that were not in his league, at all.


I disagree. Harden played top notch defense against above average players. Harden may have came off the bench, but he played starters' minutes against starters. Fame & money is a powerful drug


I will definitely agree to disagree that Harden ever played good defense in not only OKC but at AZ State as well. But we always disagree and debate so whats new :)
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#689 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 1, 2014 3:36 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:I think Harden looked better defensively than he really was coming off the bench with OKC. He still garnered a lot of the minutes, but some of those minutes were against back up SG's that were not in his league, at all.


I disagree. Harden played top notch defense against above average players. Harden may have came off the bench, but he played starters' minutes against starters. Fame & money is a powerful drug


I will definitely agree to disagree that Harden ever played good defense in not only OKC but at AZ State as well. But we always disagree and debate so whats new :)


I have you know according to DraftExpress "commitment to playing defense" and "off-ball defense" were considered 'strengths' of Harden coming out of Arizona State
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#690 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 3:40 am

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I disagree. Harden played top notch defense against above average players. Harden may have came off the bench, but he played starters' minutes against starters. Fame & money is a powerful drug


I will definitely agree to disagree that Harden ever played good defense in not only OKC but at AZ State as well. But we always disagree and debate so whats new :)


I have you know according to DraftExpress "commitment to playing defense" and "off-ball defense" were considered 'strengths' of Harden coming out of Arizona State


And I will disagree with Jonathen Givony. He was committed to defense at AZ State, and his off the ball defense was OK, but one on one he was scorched plenty, and that was against not necessarily the best competition in the nation.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#691 » by MasterIchiro » Thu May 1, 2014 3:42 am

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The way Parsons has played this post season id be more concerned about Harden than him.

Now you want to talk about someone that doesn't play D, damn, Harden plays defense like my grandmother screws.

how would you know that?


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Edit- Not even kidding. True story.


Were you gummed like Jim Carrey in "Yes Man"?
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#692 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 3:43 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
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JDR720 wrote:how would you know that?


I've had sex with older women. I know how they do it. Old, slow, but they do other things phenomenally well.

Edit- Not even kidding. True story.


Were you gummed like Jim Carrey in "Yes Man"?


Lol. Wasn't that bad. She was 56, and I was drunk. My friends still give me hell about it. Oh well. She gave head like a freaking champ and laid there like someone shot her dead during sex.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#693 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 1, 2014 3:45 am

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I will definitely agree to disagree that Harden ever played good defense in not only OKC but at AZ State as well. But we always disagree and debate so whats new :)


I have you know according to DraftExpress "commitment to playing defense" and "off-ball defense" were considered 'strengths' of Harden coming out of Arizona State


And I will disagree with Jonathen Givony. He was committed to defense at AZ State, and his off the ball defense was OK, but one on one he was scorched plenty, and that was against not necessarily the best competition in the nation.


NBADraft.net also considered his defense to be a 9 out of 10 on their prospect evaluation scale. Harden actually was a above average defender at Arizona State & with the Thunder. Wonder why you never heard much ado about his lack of defense when he was in Oklahoma City?
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#694 » by Marvel » Thu May 1, 2014 3:46 am

Regardless, Harden's defense absolutely sucks now. That's what matters. If he's intentionally not playing any D because he's a max contract player, then he can eat a big fat dick.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#695 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 3:48 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
I have you know according to DraftExpress "commitment to playing defense" and "off-ball defense" were considered 'strengths' of Harden coming out of Arizona State


And I will disagree with Jonathen Givony. He was committed to defense at AZ State, and his off the ball defense was OK, but one on one he was scorched plenty, and that was against not necessarily the best competition in the nation.


NBADraft.net also considered his defense to be a 9 out of 10 on their prospect evaluation scale. Harden actually was a above average defender at Arizona State & with the Thunder. Wonder why you never heard much ado about his lack of defense when he was in Oklahoma City?


nbadraft.net is complete garbage, period. Ill give draftexpress some credit over their evaluations, but nbadraft.net has went downhill considerably. I wont give them credit at all over anything they say
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#696 » by MasterIchiro » Thu May 1, 2014 3:50 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
I've had sex with older women. I know how they do it. Old, slow, but they do other things phenomenally well.

Edit- Not even kidding. True story.


Were you gummed like Jim Carrey in "Yes Man"?


Lol. Wasn't that bad. She was 56, and I was drunk. My friends still give me hell about it. Oh well. She gave head like a freaking champ and laid there like someone shot her dead during sex.


Just like that scene from Kingpin!!!
It has been written...
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#697 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 3:50 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
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Were you gummed like Jim Carrey in "Yes Man"?


Lol. Wasn't that bad. She was 56, and I was drunk. My friends still give me hell about it. Oh well. She gave head like a freaking champ and laid there like someone shot her dead during sex.


Just like that scene from Kingpin!!!


lol, yeah, basically. Made me laugh out loud.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#698 » by MasterIchiro » Thu May 1, 2014 3:54 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Lol. Wasn't that bad. She was 56, and I was drunk. My friends still give me hell about it. Oh well. She gave head like a freaking champ and laid there like someone shot her dead during sex.


Just like that scene from Kingpin!!!


lol, yeah, basically. Made me laugh out loud.


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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#699 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 1, 2014 3:55 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Just like that scene from Kingpin!!!


lol, yeah, basically. Made me laugh out loud.


"What is it about good sex that makes me have to crap?"


Better start doing some tongue exercises!
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