2024 Offseason Thread

[amcoolio]

McBride is just a better basketball player than Richards. You have to take that deal if offered. Trade Micic, Jackson, Mann, whatever for another big or bring in Willy Hernangomez if that desperate. Take on Ayton's deal

[MasterIchiro]

I really thought Thibs should've started McBride alongside Brunson. Both displayed chemistry through every brief stint together, playing connected on or off ball. Not to mention McBride provides better defense than Doug V.

I'm surprised Knicks are even listening on McBride It means they're really hurt by the loss of Hart and have been rendered compromised for any coming playoff run.

If they saw what I saw with McBride next to Brunson, and still listen on him, then they're really in a tough spot with their center situation. It's not worse nor better than ours but they're supposed to build for the playoffs. They're spending big dollars as well and sell out every game.

I'd like to move Micic over Mann. Mann is younger and therefore fits the timeline. He can play on or off ball giving us greater versatility and still a firewall should McBride have to start at PG.


Micic has no business playing off the ball.

[MasterIchiro]

I really thought Thibs should've started McBride alongside Brunson. Both displayed chemistry through every brief stint together, playing connected on or off ball. Not to mention McBride provides better defense than Doug V.

I'm surprised Knicks are even listening on McBride It means they're really hurt by the loss of Hart and have been rendered compromised for any coming playoff run.

If they saw what I saw with McBride next to Brunson, and still listen on him, then they're really in a tough spot with their center situation. It's not worse nor better than ours but they're supposed to build for the playoffs. They're spending big dollars as well and sell out every game.

I'd like to move Micic over Mann. Mann is younger and therefore fits the timeline. He can play on or off ball giving us greater versatility and still a firewall should McBride have to start at PG.


Micic has no business playing off the ball.

So Mann & McBride can play on or off ball compared to Micic who needs the ball in his hands, and both play better on defense than Micic.

But I think Micic has value as a playmaker on a team who's PG1 is not one of the best passers in the game and/or one who's not young enough to play 40 minutes in a playoff contest. LaMelo is a prolific playmaker and we should not sit on 8 minutes per game good passing provided by Micic at max value contributed to potential playoff wins.

I don't think 8 minutes of passing from Mann and/or McBride instead is going to cost given their defensive tenacity and versatility.

We should be very aggressive for a big that allows us to acquire McBride using our C2/3.

[JustBuzzin]

Kind of disappointed we didn't make a run at CP3 after hearing his PC with the Spurs. He said he valued playing time over ring chasing.

I'm not the biggest fan, but that guy does wonders with young teams. Would have been the perfect guy to help show Melo how to run a team and showing him he doesn't always have to be run n gun on offense.

CP3
Melo
Miller
Bridges
Mark

That lineup with our depth had a chance to be a playoff team.

[Braggins]

I don't know much about McBride. Is he a 3&D pg?

If hes good enough to stat over Green/Martin, or at least seriously compete for the job, then that could be an interesting trade. I assume they could flip Micic or Mann for a decent back up center and there are still some free agent deep bench options (Theis/Biz). If McBride is just another backup pg then it seems kind of like spinning wheels. I don't think its worth it if its just swapping a backup center for a slightly better backup pg.

LaMelo ~ McBride ~ Miller ~ Bridges ~ Mark
Micic/Mann ~ Green ~ Martin ~ Grant ~ ?

LaMelo ~ Green/Martin ~ Miller ~ Bridges ~ Mark
Micic/Mann ~ McBride ~ Martin/Green ~ ?

[Bassman]

If the Knicks need Nick Richards bad enough that they're offering McBride, we should be working overtime trading Micic, Reggie, or Mann for a C2 better than Nick. We have plenty of draft capital, 1st and second round. I'm very surprised if Ainge won't take McBride for Kessler. McBride is such a great defender and really blossomed as a spacer recently. He's similar to Josh Green but can really handle the ball.

Reserve centers are trash until a team tries to find one. If there was a better option than Nick somewhere why don’t the Knicks just swap McBride for that guy? Ah…there’s a problem. Can’t find any good ones that aren’t expensive. It’s why I wish we could have swapped our 6 and a future 1st (protected) with Portland. Get our GM’s dreamboat Salaun at 7 and the best center still available at 14. That would have likely been Ware. Or just pick Clingan at 6 and then seek to trade Richards from a position of strength.

Back to realville…I would not take another 6-1 PG for Nick unless I had a much better deal and 5 ready to come back on a CLEARANCE sale trade. We still have some mid cap exception available…maybe sign Holmes or that guy with the idiotic name (who the hell names their boy Precious?).

[MasterIchiro]

I don't know much about McBride. Is he a 3&D pg?

If hes good enough to stat over Green/Martin, or at least seriously compete for the job, then that could be an interesting trade. I assume they could flip Micic or Mann for a decent back up center and there are still some free agent deep bench options (Theis/Biz). If McBride is just another backup pg then it seems kind of like spinning wheels. I don't think its worth it if its just swapping a backup center for a slightly better backup pg.

LaMelo ~ McBride ~ Miller ~ Bridges ~ Mark
Micic/Mann ~ Green ~ Martin ~ Grant ~ ?

LaMelo ~ Green/Martin ~ Miller ~ Bridges ~ Mark
Micic/Mann ~ McBride ~ Martin/Green ~ ?

To be clear, from what I observed, McBride looked excellent alongside Brunson and the starters in multiple meaningful playoff games.

He would compete for starter minutes regular season.and he's a guy who can help hold serve as starter if/whenever LaMelo is out.

[MasterIchiro]

If the Knicks need Nick Richards bad enough that they're offering McBride, we should be working overtime trading Micic, Reggie, or Mann for a C2 better than Nick. We have plenty of draft capital, 1st and second round. I'm very surprised if Ainge won't take McBride for Kessler. McBride is such a great defender and really blossomed as a spacer recently. He's similar to Josh Green but can really handle the ball.

Reserve centers are trash until a team tries to find one. If there was a better option than Nick somewhere why don’t the Knicks just swap McBride for that guy? Ah…there’s a problem. Can’t find any good ones that aren’t expensive. It’s why I wish we could have swapped our 6 and a future 1st (protected) with Portland. Get our GM’s dreamboat Salaun at 7 and the best center still available at 14. That would have likely been Ware. Or just pick Clingan at 6 and then seek to trade Richards from a position of strength.

Back to realville…I would not take another 6-1 PG for Nick unless I had a much better deal and 5 ready to come back on a CLEARANCE sale trade. We still have some mid cap exception available…maybe sign Holmes or that guy with the idiotic name (who the hell names their boy Precious?).

I don't believe McBride is really available. That's why they haven't traded him. They should have no problem getting Kessler for him. But maybe Ainge is asking too much.

[MasterIchiro]

Achiuwa looked better in New York than he had in Toronto last season, but he's yet to develop into the kind of two-way player the Raptors had initially hoped he'd become. The Knicks have a need for more frontcourt depth and it wouldn't be shocking to see him back in New York.

The 24-year-old will likely be looking at a deal worth something similar to the bi-annual exception worth $4.7 million for next season.

-Sports Illustrated

Uh, don't we have more than 4.7 to bid on Precious Achiuwa?

[Diop]

Gary Trent Jr having a more disappointing offseason than Miles

[bravor]

If the Knicks need Nick Richards bad enough that they're offering McBride, we should be working overtime trading Micic, Reggie, or Mann for a C2 better than Nick. We have plenty of draft capital, 1st and second round. I'm very surprised if Ainge won't take McBride for Kessler. McBride is such a great defender and really blossomed as a spacer recently. He's similar to Josh Green but can really handle the ball.

Reserve centers are trash until a team tries to find one. If there was a better option than Nick somewhere why don’t the Knicks just swap McBride for that guy? Ah…there’s a problem. Can’t find any good ones that aren’t expensive. It’s why I wish we could have swapped our 6 and a future 1st (protected) with Portland. Get our GM’s dreamboat Salaun at 7 and the best center still available at 14. That would have likely been Ware. Or just pick Clingan at 6 and then seek to trade Richards from a position of strength.

Back to realville…I would not take another 6-1 PG for Nick unless I had a much better deal and 5 ready to come back on a CLEARANCE sale trade. We still have some mid cap exception available…maybe sign Holmes or that guy with the idiotic name (who the hell names their boy Precious?).

[fatlever]

If it's me running the Hornets I'm using my last roster spot on Seth curry. Get another adult in the room one that wants to be here. Then use the two-way spot on either mo or Stephens.

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[Braggins]

If it's me running the Hornets I'm using my last roster spot on Seth curry. Get another adult in the room one that wants to be here. Then use the two-way spot on either mo or Stephens.

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They still don't have a 3rd playable center on the roster.

[JDR720]

Yeah, Gibson doesn't really address any on-court weaknesses. He hasn't been playable in... 3 years at least. He's basically an assistant coach, like Udonis Haslam was for Miami all those years.

So we still need to sign another C that's playable (Stephens?) and sign another playable veteran.

- Trade Reggie Jackson, sign Seth Curry.
- Sign Stephens

Melo - Micic - Seth - Simpson
Green - Mann - NSJ
Miller - Martin
Miles - Grant - Salaun
Mark - Nick - Stephens - Taj

16 spots, Stephens/Salaun/NSJ/Simpson all in Greensboro most of the year.

[SWedd523]

Still need a C and still need a 3.

I'm okay with the Gibson signing in a Haslem role but the roster still needs addressing.

Trade Reggie for a big.

[SWedd523]

Still need a C and still need a 3.

I'm okay with the Gibson signing in a Haslem role but the roster still needs addressing.

Trade Reggie for a big.

[MPM]

I think C is an essential, 3 is a luxury. Green, Martin, Bridges, Miller, even Grant/Salaun can play 3 in a pinch depending on matchups. We have none of that flexibility at 5.

[fatlever]

If it's me running the Hornets I'm using my last roster spot on Seth curry. Get another adult in the room one that wants to be here. Then use the two-way spot on either mo or Stephens.

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They still don't have a 3rd playable center on the roster.

I don't think we're going to find that in free agency at this point. Upgrading the center position would need to come through trade. In the meantime you would have to rely on Grant, Gibson and ideally our two-way of mo or stephens.

I could definitely see the Hornets keeping that last roster spot open through training camp though

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[Liver_Pooty]

Welcome back to Charlotte Seth.

[JDR720]

With Seth staying, I'm going to say Jackson is 95% gone.