Don't Be Hurtin' Lin - The Jeremy Lin Thread 2

[fatlever]

if any Lin fan who think PFV's (self titled "your NBA expert") dissection of Lin's games or his teams' games is deep or balanced, then you probably really don't have depth understanding NBA and basketball
PFV is a good dude though

Oh man, this guy even has haters. LOL.

[Liver_Pooty]

This guy sounds like he legit cares about Lin, but hes not blinded by homerism or anything. I basically agree with 95% of the stuff he has said 20 minutes in. Dunno if I can listen to anymore. Bout to put me to sleep.

[bws94]

Lin playing <24 min/game = I want a League Pass refund. I was cheated out of $$$?
Lin playing >26 min/game = Yay, what a great investment I made to watch Lin?

2-3 minutes a game is what creates happiness?

I feel like Lin jumping to 5 different teams in 6 years has robbed his fanbase of ever actually becoming real fans of an NBA team and now he just has 2 million free agents jumping from team to team, whose only joy in life as it relates to basketball is when Lin plays well or plays huge minutes to justify the internal narrative they have created in their minds.

And if he leaves this summer it will be 6 teams in 7 years, another jersey to buy, another forum to join, another fanbase that doesn't understand you, rehashing of the same arguments with a new set of people on the Internet, and the possibility of more failed expectations.

And if team number 6 doesn't recreate Linsanity, then hopefully he can move on to team number 7 sooner than later.

U are badly generalising now , please stop you are the mod. Go look at paul from conservative new media's podcast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpEXvmlUjkU tell me what u think about it.

fatlever is a fair mod. In fact, the CH mods on GM have been more fair than other GM mods and I'll leave it at that. Also, I think the mods here generally like Lin and his game.

Maybe the panic is he is in his physical prime now and fans want to see him in a system where they don't feel he is held back and gets the adequate minutes to do so.

I don't love the idea of too many teams and him becoming a journeyman. Staying with one team a fanbase gets an allegiance to that coach, system, team, fans and roots for them. Lin then comes in and plays quality minutes, and we don't worry about if he's sixth man or if he gets more minutes than Lamb. We just know he's comfortable and productive and he helps the team win. Basketball players like to win. And Lin doesn't seem so stat motivated as some other, I think he just wants to utilize his skills, improve, and help his team win. It's tough to keep changing teams and then having to start all over building chemistry with the new team, media, systems, coaches, fan base, etc.

[fatlever]

The comments in this youtube video are frightening.

[TinmanZBoy]

if any Lin fan who think PFV's (self titled "your NBA expert") dissection of Lin's games or his teams' games is deep or balanced, then you probably really don't have depth understanding NBA and basketball
PFV is a good dude though

Oh man, this guy even has haters. LOL.

I am not a hater, like i said PFV is a good dude, but his analysis just does not have depth, that's all

[bws94]

Wait, why is there a youtube channel called Conservative New Media that seems to deal primarily in Jeremy Lin focused game reviews? What in the hell is going on...

It's not politically conservative from what I can tell. It's Paul F Villereal giving pretty objective analysis of Lin's strengths and weaknesses in a particular game and how he is progressing as a player. Paul thinks Lin is still a work in progress and can be pretty critical of him but believes in his game. He is team motivated, so he roots for Charlotte to win since it is Lin's team.

[bws94]

Oh, you guys are listening as I was responding. OK. Cool.

[fatlever]

Lin playing <24 min/game = I want a League Pass refund. I was cheated out of $$$?
Lin playing >26 min/game = Yay, what a great investment I made to watch Lin?

2-3 minutes a game is what creates happiness?

I feel like Lin jumping to 5 different teams in 6 years has robbed his fanbase of ever actually becoming real fans of an NBA team and now he just has 2 million free agents jumping from team to team, whose only joy in life as it relates to basketball is when Lin plays well or plays huge minutes to justify the internal narrative they have created in their minds.

And if he leaves this summer it will be 6 teams in 7 years, another jersey to buy, another forum to join, another fanbase that doesn't understand you, rehashing of the same arguments with a new set of people on the Internet, and the possibility of more failed expectations.

And if team number 6 doesn't recreate Linsanity, then hopefully he can move on to team number 7 sooner than later.

U are badly generalising now , please stop you are the mod. Go look at paul from conservative new media's podcast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpEXvmlUjkU tell me what u think about it.

fatlever is a fair mod. In fact, the CH mods on GM have been more fair than other GM mods and I'll leave it at that. Also, I think the mods here generally like Lin and his game.

Maybe the panic is he is in his physical prime now and fans want to see him in a system where they don't feel he is held back and gets the adequate minutes to do so.

I don't love the idea of too many teams and him becoming a journeyman. Staying with one team a fanbase gets an allegiance to that coach, system, team, fans and roots for them. Lin then comes in and plays quality minutes, and we don't worry about if he's sixth man or if he gets more minutes than Lamb. We just know he's comfortable and productive and he helps the team win. Basketball players like to win. And Lin doesn't seem so stat motivated as some other, I think he just wants to utilize his skills, improve, and help his team win. It's tough to keep changing teams and then having to start all over building chemistry with the new team, media, systems, coaches, fan base, etc.

Thats kinda what I was getting at... Aren't the majority of Lin fans tired of changing teams every year? Wouldnt you guys rather see him stick to a team for a while, even if that was in a role as a 6th, 7th man. It must be exhausting to have to change teams every year and then find a new place to discuss Lin and then rehash the same arguments with that new fanbase over and over and fret over Lin's role on that new team... all in hopes that there is a small percentage chance that he ends up in a situation similar to Linsanity.

[fatlever]

This guy sounds like he legit cares about Lin, but hes not blinded by homerism or anything. I basically agree with 95% of the stuff he has said 20 minutes in. Dunno if I can listen to anymore. Bout to put me to sleep.

I made it 17 minutes. Talks way to slow, but I agree with all he said, just like you.

[fatlever]

Don't ever say that me and LP aren't open minded.

[Roy Tarpley]

Don't ever say that me and LP aren't open minded.

You, sirs, are impressive. I couldn't even listen to that dude for 1 minute.

[Braggins]

This guy sounds like he legit cares about Lin, but hes not blinded by homerism or anything. I basically agree with 95% of the stuff he has said 20 minutes in. Dunno if I can listen to anymore. Bout to put me to sleep.

I made it 17 minutes. Talks way to slow, but I agree with all he said, just like you.

Set the speed to 1.25 or 1.5. Thats what I do when I listen Noam Chomsky lectures on youtube lol.

[Liver_Pooty]

He's voice made my head tingle and the hairs rise upon my arms and legs

[Braggins]

He's voice made my head tingle and the hairs rise upon my arms and legs

lol'ed

[bws94]

Linsanity was the right circumstance and him playing way out of his mind. He was unscouted and fearless but very mistake prone. He had the PnR big man, two of them, athletic guys that can run and dunk and catch his football passes and lobs, a system that was designed for his game pretty much with the right players. He had great defensive help as well. Fact is, he hasn't found those collection of players or that system since PLUS he's scouted and pressured around his weak points like handling traps and long ball-hawking pressure defenders pressuring his dribble. He also has problems around the rim with shot-blockers. There's a big book on Lin now.

Now Lin had a nice Linsanity mode game against the Knicks, the first game in Charlotte where he showed his clutch gene. He also showed it in the OT game against the Kings. So he still has it in him. When his jump shots start falling he gets more confidence and he'll be more of a scorer then. But with all the info on him now and some of his flaws exposed, teams have a game plan that sometimes slows him down, makes him turnover prone also. But, sometimes if he's surrounded with the right guys, he can be a difference maker. He's still a valuable player and he can find new adjustments to make to be more effective. That crossover stepback jump shot is one way for sure.

[Braggins]

I was planning on watching the Detroit/Houston game but this thread has gotten too interesting and I can't look away.

[Teddyb]

Im a Lin Fan. Came here because of Lin. That being said I really like this team. They move the ball...and when they are playing well Lin fits perfectly. The problem for Lin here is you have Lamb, Batum and Walker all playing at a pretty high level. SO Lin does t get the burn.

However, Lin doesn't take shots and when he does shoot his numbers are not great! There are simply better choices.

BUT I also would think that there were a few games where Lin should have finished the game and didn't. Last night for instance and against Cleveland I though they should have left him in. There have been several times when he should have been pulled sooner...There are time that he just plays bad....again I love the guy.

Lin is a team player who will likely never average 20 and 6 or even 15 and 5....Doesnt it seem like it would have happened already if it were to happen. He might get those numbers playing for Philly. I would rather him stay and play with this team. Just me

[TinmanZBoy]

I was planning on watching the Detroit/Houston game but this thread has gotten too interesting and I can't look away.

jeremy lin is a drug, can get you high

[Flip Murray]

You guys must think that Lin is absolutely miserable in Charlotte and regretting every minute of every day that he is wearing a Hornets uniform playing for the monster that is Steve Clifford. He must be begging his agent to get him traded or circling the date he can sign elsewhere as a free agent.

Yet, every time I see him on the court on on the bench, he looks genuinely happy and every interview he has given so far he seems thrilled to be here.

Does he just have the greatest poker face in the league? Is he a liar? Or perhaps what makes Lin happy is not the same thing as what makes his fans happy?

Which is it?

Easy , once he starts quote bible verses in his twitter, it means that he is going through turmoil.

Turmoil that is no doubt related to minutes?

Haha exactly. So you're telling me that he was going through turmoil related to minutes when he tweeted this...

"1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 -- Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is Gods will for you in Christ Jesus"

ON THANKSGIVING DAY. HE TWEETED A BIBLE VERSE ABOUT GIVING THANKS.

[Braggins]

I kind of want to create an account on JLin portal and start throwing out rumors that Clifford hates Lin because he is jealous of his hair and that is why he isn't giving him the minutes that he promised him.