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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#721 » by amcoolio » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:55 am

I think its a moot point anyway because I really can't see us drafting him at 9. He just doesn't fit Cho, MJ, or Clifford at all. And his defense is shockingly bad, worse than McDermott, who could at least take over the scoring responsibility against second units and when Al is out of the game.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#722 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:56 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
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mrknowitall215 wrote:It's difficult to shed light onto Stauskas' darkness because I like him, but I have to keep it logistic for those that overrate him and think he's a 'sure thing' at #9 just because he can shoot. There's a whole lot more to the game than that. Me being a adamant stickler about defense, I found it hard to really justify taking Stauskas in the lottery outside of my bias dislike for Henderson as average talent combined with the fact he went to Duke


Not sure what Duke has to do with anything. Duke fans don't dislike UCONN.

Anyways, yeah, I agree with what you said :)_


I don't know. I just dislike Duke, but I made a exception for them this past season for Jabari Parker. Now I'm back to my inexpiable Duke hating ways 8-)


Im actually starting to become a fan of the Sixers, slight fan, but a fan.

Draft Exum, and let the good times roll.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#723 » by RichBoy923 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:00 am

The problem is you aren't going to find a player in this year's draft that's going to provide you knockdown shooting and defense. We'd be all over that player if that was the case. You have to take the good with the bad. Charlotte's problem last year wasn't defense. We were a top 5 defense. Of course, drafting a player that needs work on defense should see that number dip but you can cover defensive deficiencies much easier.

We need offense and 3 point shooting specifically. We were in the bottom 5 in that category. Someone that can stretch the floor helps our offense in other ways other than just providing a 3 point threat.

I'm not going to be upset if we don't draft Stauskas (unless maybe it's McDermott) because I'm not all that attached to one player. Although, he's the player I feel like we need in this draft.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#724 » by amcoolio » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:01 am

I honestly feel we can trade down to 13 or 14 and he'd still be there. Wonder what we can pick up if thats the case
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Post#725 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:02 am

amcoolio wrote:I honestly feel we can trade down to 13 or 14 and he'd still be there. Wonder what we can pick up if thats the case


Future protected first. Id be down. Can never go wrong with future first round picks.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#726 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:03 am

RichBoy923 wrote:The problem is you aren't going to find a player in this year's draft that's going to provide you knockdown shooting and defense. We'd be all over that player if that was the case. You have to take the good with the bad. Charlotte's problem last year wasn't defense. We were a top 5 defense. Of course, drafting a player that needs work on defense should see that number dip but you can cover defensive deficiencies much easier.

We need offense and 3 point shooting specifically. We were in the bottom 5 in that category. Someone that can stretch the floor helps our offense in other ways other than just providing a 3 point threat.

I'm not going to be upset if we don't draft Stauskas (unless maybe it's McDermott) because I'm not all that attached to one player. Although, he's the player I feel like we need in this draft.


Gary Harris can provide good shooting and solid defense. Hes the closest thing to both in the draft.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#727 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:04 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Im actually starting to become a fan of the Sixers, slight fan, but a fan.

Draft Exum, and let the good times roll.


If that's true than you are destined to be my polar opposite by any means necessary, because I'm actually starting lose my fandom in the Sixers, and it's only hanging on by a thread

If we draft Wiggins, it will be unbearable. If we draft Exum, I'll still be hanging by that thread in hopes that he'll be Penny Hardaway resurrected. If we don't draft Parker, I'll be disappointed regardless
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#728 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:05 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Gary Harris can provide good shooting and solid defense. Hes the closest thing to both in the draft.


...and that's why he's the apple of Cho's eye (allegedly)
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#729 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:05 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Im actually starting to become a fan of the Sixers, slight fan, but a fan.

Draft Exum, and let the good times roll.


If that's true than you are destined to be my polar opposite by any means necessary, because I'm actually starting lose my fandom in the Sixers, and it's only hanging on by a thread

If we draft Wiggins, it will be unbearable. If we draft Exum, I'll still be hanging by that thread in hopes that he'll be Penny Hardaway resurrected. If we don't draft Parker, I'll be disappointed regardless


Parker and Wiggins are going top 2 barring some miraculous ordeal.

Were already polar opposites as it is anyway. Between you and catch I have to spend a majority of the day defending myself. Its all fine and dandy though, we all have one main goal and thats getting this team better.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#730 » by RichBoy923 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:08 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Gary Harris can provide good shooting and solid defense. Hes the closest thing to both in the draft.


Yes at 9 he's probably the best 2 way player. I just don't see him stretching the floor as much as Stauskas. Wouldn't be upset if we went the Harris route, just concerned about his height.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#731 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:10 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Parker and Wiggins are going top 2 barring some miraculous ordeal.


That miraculous ordeal is a very possible series of fortunate events that would start the domino effect by Cleveland taking Wiggins like they should and Milwaukee taking Exum instead of Parker since they already have too many SF/PF positioned players under hefty & lengthy contracts. Exum & Knight at PG/SG has some legs
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#732 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:12 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Parker and Wiggins are going top 2 barring some miraculous ordeal.


That miraculous ordeal is a very possible series of fortunate events that would start the domino effect by Cleveland taking Wiggins like they should and Milwaukee taking Exum instead of Parker since they already have too many SF/PF positioned players under hefty & lengthy contracts. Exum & Knight at PG/SG has some legs


its possible. If Philly selects Embiid im jumping off the fan bandwagon though. That would be ridiculous.
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Post#733 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:00 am

NBA scouts on Stauskas

“He’s the best pro shooter in the draft and he has the best pro jump shot in the draft,” said one league source familiar with Stauskas. “If he adds other stuff to his game, I think he’s going to be good.”


“He’s bigger than you think,” said one Eastern Conference executive. “He’s a legitimate 6-6. He’s also more athletic than you think.”


“Stauskas was especially impressive,” wrote ESPN draft analyst Chad Ford. “He measured with a 35.5-inch max [vertical leap], a 10.79 lane agility score, a 2.92 shuttle run and a 3.27 sprint. Those were all very good numbers and should boost his draft stock.”


“He’s a lot like Klay Thompson in terms of body type and shooting,” the scout said. “Thompson is a pretty good ballhandler, but I think [Stauskas is] even better with the ball and a better passer than Thompson — and Klay Thompson is a fringe All-Star player. I love Klay Thompson, but I think Stauskas could be that good. Stauskas is good, man. He’s good.


“The thing is, as good a shooter as [Stauskas] is, and he might be the best shooter in the draft, but he’s much more than that. His skill as a handler and passer, he’s got long hands and a good passer . . . Nik Stauskas was hands-down the 2014 Big Ten Player of the Year in a conference with [Indiana forward] Noah Vonleh, [Michigan State guard] Gary Harris, [Michigan State forward] Adreian Payne, the Ohio State guys.


“Watch Stauskas and how teams defended him. They threw everything at him and he scored every way. You couldn’t shake him right. He’ll go left. You couldn’t handle him physically. He’s a real basketball player.”


“Love him, love him, love him,” said one Western Conference scout.


“He’s really high up on our board, because we need shooting so badly,” said one Eastern Conference scout.


“I would mention him first ahead of the rest of the guys,” said a Western Conference executive. “I think he’s got an NBA game. He’s got the size for the [shooting guard] position. And he’s an excellent shooter.


“He gets his shot away quickly with really good range. I think his game is going to transfer to the NBA really well. If he lasts until the late lottery, people are going to be really happy that they got him.”


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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#734 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:03 am

After reading the testimony of actual NBA scouts, I think I'm done debating Stauskas. I've read enough. I've seen enough. The negative talk doesn't affect me. He'd be playing next to an elite defender and within a structured defense headed by an effective coach. HIs biggest area of weakness is a team strength. The same can't be said for the other choices. Their biggest weakness might also be one of the teams biggest weaknesses whether it be small size (Harris), poor shooting (Payton), can't play a position of need (McDermott), lack of ball handling (McDermott).
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#735 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:05 am

Charlotte Hornets Should Take Nik Stauskas

But I love Stauskas. The problem with the draft, with any draft, is that we have so much time to consider the candidates we favor that they become larger than they are. The guy will be an all-star. He can’t miss. If the Hornets don’t take him, they’ll need years to recover, each of them full of tears and regret.

By Thursday night, Stauskas might be 6-8.

Yet how many nights last season was Charlotte undone by inconsistent outside shooting? If Kemba Walker had a shooter to feed, defenses would have to adjust and extend. Beneficiaries would be Al Jefferson, who’d have more space inside, and Walker, who would have room to move.

Stauskas hit 44 percent of his three-pointers as a freshman and 44.2 percent last season as a sophomore.

He’s a pure and natural shooter and a fantastic fit for a team that desperately needs one.


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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#736 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:08 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Charlotte Hornets Should Take Nik Stauskas

But I love Stauskas. The problem with the draft, with any draft, is that we have so much time to consider the candidates we favor that they become larger than they are. The guy will be an all-star. He can’t miss. If the Hornets don’t take him, they’ll need years to recover, each of them full of tears and regret.

By Thursday night, Stauskas might be 6-8.

Yet how many nights last season was Charlotte undone by inconsistent outside shooting? If Kemba Walker had a shooter to feed, defenses would have to adjust and extend. Beneficiaries would be Al Jefferson, who’d have more space inside, and Walker, who would have room to move.

Stauskas hit 44 percent of his three-pointers as a freshman and 44.2 percent last season as a sophomore.

He’s a pure and natural shooter and a fantastic fit for a team that desperately needs one.


http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 6upha68v-s


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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#737 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:11 am

Steph Curry's father (pretty certain he knows good basketball) prefers Stauskas.

There's just a mountain of support for Nik at 9.

The stragglers won't affect me these last remaining hours.

I"m solid going in.

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Post#738 » by TheKingofSting2 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:03 am

I guess it is good to go ahead and accept this now. I really am trying to like him.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#739 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:02 am

So how will Nik supporters feel if the Hornets draft him .... Then trade him to Chicago for Taj + 16 & 19?


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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#740 » by ARHornet » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:26 am

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:So how will Nik supporters feel if the Hornets draft him .... Then trade him to Chicago for Taj + 16 & 19?


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Depends on who we get at 16 and 19.

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