2011 Draft Prospect Thread

[BigSlam]

He reminds me a little of Kevin Martin - in size, pro's and con's.

[bobcats3wallace]

anyone have any opinion one way or the other about alec burks from colorado?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alec-Burks-5819/

dx has him at 15, nbadraft at 5. seems to be right in the range for our 1st pick.

He's a guy I don't think I would be terribly upset over, however he is too similar to Hendo I think. We need a sharp shooter off the bench for Hendo. Burks is a great scorer, but is NOT a 3 point shoooter. Now I havn't seen a ton of him so idk his potential as a shooter, but he looks too similar to Hendo where he is limited to the 2 point shot.

[Takuya Kimura]

So the 2 euro Cs in the draft:
Enes Kanter
Jonas Valanciunas
seem to have big dispersions on their draft positons on nbadraft and draftexpess,can we take a chance at them?Or can we move up to get Perry Jones?

P.S:TBH I've watched no games of any of them.

[BigSlam]

anyone have any opinion one way or the other about alec burks from colorado?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alec-Burks-5819/

dx has him at 15, nbadraft at 5. seems to be right in the range for our 1st pick.

He's a guy I don't think I would be terribly upset over, however he is too similar to Hendo I think. We need a sharp shooter off the bench for Hendo. Burks is a great scorer, but is NOT a 3 point shoooter. Now I havn't seen a ton of him so idk his potential as a shooter, but he looks too similar to Hendo where he is limited to the 2 point shot.

He's nothing like Hendo.

[bobcats3wallace]

anyone have any opinion one way or the other about alec burks from colorado?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alec-Burks-5819/

dx has him at 15, nbadraft at 5. seems to be right in the range for our 1st pick.

He's a guy I don't think I would be terribly upset over, however he is too similar to Hendo I think. We need a sharp shooter off the bench for Hendo. Burks is a great scorer, but is NOT a 3 point shoooter. Now I havn't seen a ton of him so idk his potential as a shooter, but he looks too similar to Hendo where he is limited to the 2 point shot.

He's nothing like Hendo.

Once again you fail to comprehend the meaning of the post. It's like you just read half of it then post. I said he is like Hendo in the fact he does not have a great 3 point shot. Hendo actually even shot better from 3 point range than Burks has in college. So YES, in fact, they are a like in the fact neither have a great 3 point shot. Which if you read even half of what I said you would picked up on. Like i said, he looks to similar to Hendo in that he is limited to the 2 point shot. IMO we need a 3 point threat to come off the bench for Hendo, not another guy who can't hit the 3. Please read my entire post next time before trying to respond with a smart*** remark.

[bobcats3wallace]

BTW...

Hendo senior year: 45% from the field, 34% from 3; 5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.2 steals, 2.2 turnovers
Burks senior year: 47% from the field, 30% from 3; 6.5 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 1.1 steals, 2.6 turnovers

But yeah, there NOTHING alike. Absolutely NOTHING a like...yeah...right.

[bobcats3wallace]

So the 2 euro Cs in the draft:
Enes Kanter
Jonas Valanciunas
seem to have big dispersions on their draft positons on nbadraft and draftexpess,can we take a chance at them?Or can we move up to get Perry Jones?

P.S:TBH I've watched no games of any of them.

I don't want any of those 3. Perry Jones is going to be a PF in the NBA as well as Kanter. Valanciunas is a guy who will likely stay in Europe for a couple years because whoever drafts him will have to buy out his contract, from what I have read. I don't have any interest in any of them. Plus after the Ajinca pick, i'm a little nervous for any euro player. Very stereotypical, I know, haha. But I just can't get Ajinca out of my head. The same as I can't get Morrison out of my head when I see Jimmer...

[penquin11]

Some things to address

1. Alec Burks IS NOTHING LIKE HENDO: If you actually watched them play in college you would know that Burks is more of a pure scorer and wingman then Hendo is, he also is better in the paint.

2. Perry Jones has immense talent but could end up like T2.

3. Enes Kanter will be a pretty good C, not great but good.

4. Players I would love us to grab:
Kemba Walker
Kieth Benson
Terrence Jones ~ (we shall see how he does in nba though, he will never be that 20ppg game though)
Jajuan Johnson

5. We need our 2012 pick back, badly...

[BigSlam]

Once again you fail to comprehend the meaning of the post. It's like you just read half of it then post. I said he is like Hendo in the fact he does not have a great 3 point shot. Hendo actually even shot better from 3 point range than Burks has in college. So YES, in fact, they are a like in the fact neither have a great 3 point shot. Which if you read even half of what I said you would picked up on. Like i said, he looks to similar to Hendo in that he is limited to the 2 point shot. IMO we need a 3 point threat to come off the bench for Hendo, not another guy who can't hit the 3. Please read my entire post next time before trying to respond with a smart*** remark.

Once again you prove that you have not watched enough college ball if you think that Burks is like Hendo.

Hendo is a supreme defender - Burks is a horrible defender
Hendo isn't great at creating his own shot - Burks creates his own shot in a variety of ways
Hendo has suspect handles - Burks has an above average handle for a SG
Hendo is super athletic - Burks will test in the lower part of the class

Seriously, they are NOTHING alike.

Please watch an entire college season next time before trying to come off like a smart***!!!

[BigSlam]

BTW...

Hendo senior year: 45% from the field, 34% from 3; 5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.2 steals, 2.2 turnovers
Burks senior year: 47% from the field, 30% from 3; 6.5 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 1.1 steals, 2.6 turnovers

But yeah, there NOTHING alike. Absolutely NOTHING a like...yeah...right.

You know that Hendo came out as a junior and that Burks is only a sophmore................right?

[bobcats3wallace]

Once again you fail to comprehend the meaning of the post. It's like you just read half of it then post. I said he is like Hendo in the fact he does not have a great 3 point shot. Hendo actually even shot better from 3 point range than Burks has in college. So YES, in fact, they are a like in the fact neither have a great 3 point shot. Which if you read even half of what I said you would picked up on. Like i said, he looks to similar to Hendo in that he is limited to the 2 point shot. IMO we need a 3 point threat to come off the bench for Hendo, not another guy who can't hit the 3. Please read my entire post next time before trying to respond with a smart*** remark.

Once again you prove that you have not watched enough college ball if you think that Burks is like Hendo.

Hendo is a supreme defender - Burks is a horrible defender
Hendo isn't great at creating his own shot - Burks creates his own shot in a variety of ways
Hendo has suspect handles - Burks has an above average handle for a SG
Hendo is super athletic - Burks will test in the lower part of the class

Seriously, they are NOTHING alike.

Please watch an entire college season next time before trying to come off like a smart***!!!

And once again...NONE of those things have ANYTHING to do with the point I was making. Which further proves you really either can't comprehend, or don't try to. I said that they are similar in ONE WAY. And that is the fact that they are both limited to the 2 point shot. Neither have or are projected to have good NBA 3 point shots. Thats the ONLY point i was making. If you had read, you would had known that because I said it TWICE. I did not ONCE compare them as players. I simply said that they are a like because both cannot shoot the 3 ball and I think we need a 3 point shooter to back up Henderson. PLEASE READ EVERYTHING NEXT TIME. Its ridiculous. I said it two times in different posts and you STILL just go on pretending you saw something different. Unbelievable. And the class doesn't matter. My point is still that the two are near identical players when it comes to shooting the basketball.

[bobcats3wallace]

"We need a sharp shooter off the bench for Hendo. Burks is a great scorer, but is NOT a 3 point shoooter"

"but he looks too similar to Hendo where he is limited to the 2 point shot."

"I said he is like Hendo in the fact he does not have a great 3 point shot. Hendo actually even shot better from 3 point range than Burks has in college. So YES, in fact, they are a like in the fact neither have a great 3 point shot."

"Like i said, he looks to similar to Hendo in that he is limited to the 2 point shot. IMO we need a 3 point threat to come off the bench for Hendo, not another guy who can't hit the 3. "

How you CONTINUE to miss the boat baffles me. Maybe your under the influence or something.....

[BigSlam]

If we had the chance we should probably not draft Kyrie Irving this draft because he and DJA put up the exact same steals stats (1.5) as freshman in college and we need more defense from the point guard position.

[BigSlam]

I just found this, which I thought was interesting when it comes to to the current draft class declaring Vs the upcoming new CBA:

An interesting note, however. NBA players are paid on various calendars, but in most cases, rookies don't receive their first check until November. So should a lockout extend for six months, say until the beginning of 2012, a rookie in this coming draft class would only really lose two paychecks in that scenario, as opposed to six.

[bobcats3wallace]

If we had the chance we should probably not draft Kyrie Irving this draft because he and DJA put up the exact same steals stats (1.5) as freshman in college and we need more defense from the point guard position.

Once again, the first thing I said was that I would not be unhappy with drafting the kid. I just would rather having a guy with a 3 point shot coming off the bench for Hendo. Please, please, please take the time to read everything I type. That's all i'm asking for. Don't openly mock me when you haven't even read everything I've had to say. C'mon man...your better than this. Just read.

[bobcats3wallace]

And Slam, I do think i remember you saying that you would like to have a 3 point threat coming off the bench for Hendo as well. So it's not like this is a hugely foreign idea...You have a guy who can't shoot 3's starting at SG. It would make a hell of a lot of sense to find someone who CAN hit 3's coming off the bench for him versus putting another guy who can't hit 3's in there.

[BigSlam]

And Slam, I do think i remember you saying that you would like to have a 3 point threat coming off the bench for Hendo as well. So it's not like this is a hugely foreign idea...You have a guy who can't shoot 3's starting at SG. It would make a hell of a lot of sense to find someone who CAN hit 3's coming off the bench for him versus putting another guy who can't hit 3's in there.

We already have that.



Burks is SO much more though. Either way, and like I posted about two weeks ago - it's pity that Hendo isn't 6'7", about 230lbs and a true SF (his actual position) because Burks would be wonderful next to him as our starting SG.

[fatlever]

OK - so both hendo and burks arent current NBA 3pt threats. they have that in commmon. but from what else i have read about him, the other parts of their games dont seem to be too similar. regardless, i think i like what i have read about him much more than many others in that same range.

as for 3pt shooting - its not a big deal of a shooting guard doesnt have 3pt range coming out of college. i can think of dozens and dozens of 1st round guards/wings over the years who didnt develop that shot until 2-3 years into their pro career. defense and 3pt shooting is often the last thing young players develop. as long as his mechanics are sound, there is no reason to think he couldnt greatly improve that area.

what i like about his scouting report is
- iso ability
- unselfish
- ballhandling
- passing
- aggressive
- gets to ft line

these are all areas that our team could use more help with.

[fatlever]

skeen reminds me so much of an the old/slow version of robert horry (not the young athletic rockets version).

was really rooting for vcu to make it. that would have been an awesome storyline.

i am torn between uconn and kentucky. i hate kentucky. i hate their one-done mentality to recruiting players. i hate calipari and think he is a blight on college hoops. HOWEVER, if kentucky beats uconn my dad wins my office NCAA pool.

at worst i hope knight, walker and this overrated terrence jones kid show me they belong on the bobcats next year.

[BigSlam]

what i like about his scouting report is
- iso ability
- unselfish
- ballhandling
- passing
- aggressive
- gets to ft line

these are all areas that our team could use more help with.

Yup - like I said, very Kevin Martin like.

He even has the crappy D!!