The Nik Stauskas Thread

[Fred Williamson]

So how will Nik supporters feel if the Hornets draft him .... Then trade him to Chicago for Taj + 16 & 19?


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**** awesome

[freakon0mics]

I would love it if we can make that deal happen.

[mrknowitall215]

Nik Stauskas = Casey Jacobsen

Like it or not, that's what it is. I've come to grips with it upon further review of Stauskas' lack of defense, and overrated court vision. Jacobsen was a very similar, almost identical prospect coming out of Stanford over a decade ago

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v2Jz09JzwQ[/youtube]

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5fXV2x_dso

Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr-GFIlZmKQ

[BeesWax]

So how will Nik supporters feel if the Hornets draft him .... Then trade him to Chicago for Taj + 16 & 19?


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**** awesome

A little ticked until we see who we get with the picks. Unless we do well there giving up a guy I have in my top 7 for mid to late firsts is bad.

[BeesWax]

Nik Stauskas = Casey Jacobsen

Like it or not, that's what it is. I've come to grips with it upon further review of Stauskas' lack of defense, and overrated court vision. Jacobsen was a very similar, almost identical prospect coming out of Stanford over a decade ago

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v2Jz09JzwQ[/youtube]

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5fXV2x_dso

Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr-GFIlZmKQ

Was not near the court vision of Stauskas when he was a sophomore. His assists to turnover ration was never that great. He also had a long release where he really cocked back to get his shot. I think that hurts just like it does QBs in the NFL.

[catch20two]

Nik Stauskas = Casey Jacobsen

Like it or not, that's what it is. I've come to grips with it upon further review of Stauskas' lack of defense, and overrated court vision. Jacobsen was a very similar, almost identical prospect coming out of Stanford over a decade ago

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v2Jz09JzwQ[/youtube]

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5fXV2x_dso

Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr-GFIlZmKQ

That's it! That's him! Almost spitting image. Almost spitting image. Deadly and highly efficient 3 point shooter that had a little handle and sneaky athleticism. Couldn't play D for sh*t tho.

Stay away from Stauskas! Stay away!

[MasterIchiro]

Again, you can keep your YouTube clips. I'm going with multiple, actual NBA scouts here. I'll reread my post with their quotes showering Nik with praise.

[MasterIchiro]

So how will Nik supporters feel if the Hornets draft him .... Then trade him to Chicago for Taj + 16 & 19?


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One of them would have to be TJ Warren but I'd feel bad about it if we didn't sign Lance Stephenson. If we have Nik and miss out on Lance it's not as bad. I want Hendo out and I don't want to strike out on both Stauskas + Lance, the 2 leading candidates to oust him.

[mrknowitall215]

Was not near the court vision of Stauskas when he was a sophomore. His assists to turnover ration was never that great. He also had a long release where he really cocked back to get his shot. I think that hurts just like it does QBs in the NFL.

Oh my, the Stauskas enthusiasts are illogical as if he was Jason Kidd at Cal. Stauskas' assist-to-turnover ratio was nothing extraordinary

Jacobsen had a college career turnover percentage of 12.0% to Stauskas' 11.8%

Jacobsen had a college career average of 2.7 assist per game to Stauskas' 2.3 assist per game

Jacobsen had a college career average of 2.0 turnovers per game to Stauskas' 1.5 turnovers per game



Stop the nonsense, please...

[BeesWax]

Was not near the court vision of Stauskas when he was a sophomore. His assists to turnover ration was never that great. He also had a long release where he really cocked back to get his shot. I think that hurts just like it does QBs in the NFL.

Oh my, the Stauskas enthusiasts are illogical as if he was Jason Kidd at Cal. Stauskas' assist-to-turnover ratio was nothing extraordinary

Jacobsen had a college career turnover percentage of 12.0% to Stauskas' 11.8%

Jacobsen had a college career average of 2.7 assist per game to Stauskas' 2.3 assist per game

Jacobsen had a college career average of 2.0 turnovers per game to Stauskas' 1.5 turnovers per game



Stop the nonsense, please...

Sorry for telling you the truth. Never let it get in that way man. I looked at their sophomore years where. Jacobsen averaged less assists and the same number of turnovers. If you watch the two play and look at the numbers from the same year it shows they are very different. Randle is closer to Thomas Robinson than Stauskas is to Jacobsen.

You know I just looked at the numbers and watched what you had and thought back about him and realized it was not really the same. If these guys are the same then James Young will be the next Marshon Brooks. There are a lot of weak comparisons you can find out there.

[MasterIchiro]

My favorite opinion from an NBA scout:

“He’s a lot like Klay Thompson in terms of body type and shooting,” the scout said. “Thompson is a pretty good ballhandler, but I think [Stauskas is] even better with the ball and a better passer than Thompson — and Klay Thompson is a fringe All-Star player. I love Klay Thompson, but I think Stauskas could be that good. Stauskas is good, man. He’s good.

If this guy is right and we pass on him, it's devastating.

[yosemiteben]

In 2001 I was too busy watching Jason Williams kick Maryland's ass to pay attention to some dude from Stanford.

[RichBoy923]

My favorite opinion from an NBA scout:

“He’s a lot like Klay Thompson in terms of body type and shooting,” the scout said. “Thompson is a pretty good ballhandler, but I think [Stauskas is] even better with the ball and a better passer than Thompson — and Klay Thompson is a fringe All-Star player. I love Klay Thompson, but I think Stauskas could be that good. Stauskas is good, man. He’s good.

If this guy is right and we pass on him, it's devastating.

If only he was as a good a defender as Klay.

[mrknowitall215]

My favorite opinion from an NBA scout:

“He’s a lot like Klay Thompson in terms of body type and shooting,” the scout said. “Thompson is a pretty good ballhandler, but I think [Stauskas is] even better with the ball and a better passer than Thompson — and Klay Thompson is a fringe All-Star player. I love Klay Thompson, but I think Stauskas could be that good. Stauskas is good, man. He’s good.

If this guy is right and we pass on him, it's devastating.

If only he was as a good a defender as Klay.

...and then add on top of that, as good as Klay Thompson is, he is still a overrated player

[RichBoy923]

My favorite opinion from an NBA scout:



If this guy is right and we pass on him, it's devastating.

If only he was as a good a defender as Klay.

...and then add on top of that, as good as Klay Thompson is, he is still a overrated player

Overrated offensively, underrated defensively.

[mrknowitall215]

Was not near the court vision of Stauskas when he was a sophomore. His assists to turnover ration was never that great. He also had a long release where he really cocked back to get his shot. I think that hurts just like it does QBs in the NFL.

Oh my, the Stauskas enthusiasts are illogical as if he was Jason Kidd at Cal. Stauskas' assist-to-turnover ratio was nothing extraordinary

Jacobsen had a college career turnover percentage of 12.0% to Stauskas' 11.8%

Jacobsen had a college career average of 2.7 assist per game to Stauskas' 2.3 assist per game

Jacobsen had a college career average of 2.0 turnovers per game to Stauskas' 1.5 turnovers per game



Stop the nonsense, please...

Sorry for telling you the truth.

I debunked your myth that you call a truth when you inferred that Stauskas' assist-to-turnover ratio was superior to Jacobsen's coming into the league, when in reality it wasn't. They are very similar. Stauskas might be better since his legacy isn't set and he has the chance to retool, but Jacobsen is a precautionary tale to anyone thinking Stauskas is a 'sure thing' just because he shot efficiently, because Jacobsen did the same thing

[yosemiteben]

Oh my, the Stauskas enthusiasts are illogical as if he was Jason Kidd at Cal. Stauskas' assist-to-turnover ratio was nothing extraordinary

Jacobsen had a college career turnover percentage of 12.0% to Stauskas' 11.8%

Jacobsen had a college career average of 2.7 assist per game to Stauskas' 2.3 assist per game

Jacobsen had a college career average of 2.0 turnovers per game to Stauskas' 1.5 turnovers per game



Stop the nonsense, please...

Sorry for telling you the truth.

I debunked your myth that you call a truth when you inferred that Stauskas' assist-to-turnover ratio was superior to Jacobsen's coming into the league, when in reality it wasn't. They are very similar. Stauskas might be better since his legacy isn't set and he has the chance to retool, but Jacobsen is a precautionary tale to anyone thinking Stauskas is a 'sure thing' just because he shot efficiently, because Jacobsen did the same thing

I mean technically he said when both were sophomores.

[mrknowitall215]

Sorry for telling you the truth.

I debunked your myth that you call a truth when you inferred that Stauskas' assist-to-turnover ratio was superior to Jacobsen's coming into the league, when in reality it wasn't. They are very similar. Stauskas might be better since his legacy isn't set and he has the chance to retool, but Jacobsen is a precautionary tale to anyone thinking Stauskas is a 'sure thing' just because he shot efficiently, because Jacobsen did the same thing

I mean technically he said when both were sophomores.

Well technically, that's a illogical argument, because then I could say that Jacobsen was better as a freshman at almost every aspect. I measure a player by his overall output whenever it's more than one season to gauge by

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Klay was not a good defender when drafted.


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[yosemiteben]

I debunked your myth that you call a truth when you inferred that Stauskas' assist-to-turnover ratio was superior to Jacobsen's coming into the league, when in reality it wasn't. They are very similar. Stauskas might be better since his legacy isn't set and he has the chance to retool, but Jacobsen is a precautionary tale to anyone thinking Stauskas is a 'sure thing' just because he shot efficiently, because Jacobsen did the same thing

I mean technically he said when both were sophomores.

Well technically, that's a illogical argument, because then I could say that Jacobsen was better as a freshman at almost every aspect. I measure a player by his overall output whenever it's more than one season to gauge by

Fair enough, but the counter is that Stauskas showed more improvement between his frosh and soph year (so the potential for development is there) and at similar stages in Jacobsen and Stauskas's career (after their soph years) Stauskas seems to have put up better numbers.

With that said, again, I don't know jack about Jacobsen and am not at all vested in this argument.