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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#741 » by Snidely FC » Fri Aug 6, 2021 2:47 am

this team has Lamelo now I'd like to see it built around him when you've already got PJ MIles Kai Thor Richards Carey bigs who can fly around with Melo why add a relatively immobile non-defender big???
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#742 » by Rich4114 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 2:49 am

BigSlam wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:What does being 7 foot tall have to do with anything when you don’t play like a 7 footer?

Case in point: Primoz Brezec was 7 feet tall.


Because you can shoot over people? Also just any size that can shoot 40% from 3 on our pass heavy team would be welcome. Gives us the ability to really spread it out if we play Lauri at the 5 in spots with PJ at the 4

You’ve complained for years and years at how bad Zeller was at protecting the paint and the rim.

Markkanen makes Zeller look like prime Mutumbo.

Enjoy him at the 5.

I’d much rather Turner.


Did Zeller provide some kind of offensive game we’ve all missed? If he hit a three or even attempted one, it was notable. Lauri is another shooter we add to the mix to help us score points. He should not start at the 5, he should play mostly at the 4. I’m saying he and PJ can play some at the same time and you’d have quality scoring and shooting at all 5 positions at once without being undersized anywhere. Think big, slam!
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#743 » by Chapelchilla » Fri Aug 6, 2021 3:03 am

BigSlam wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:What does being 7 foot tall have to do with anything when you don’t play like a 7 footer?

Case in point: Primoz Brezec was 7 feet tall.


Because you can shoot over people? Also just any size that can shoot 40% from 3 on our pass heavy team would be welcome. Gives us the ability to really spread it out if we play Lauri at the 5 in spots with PJ at the 4

You’ve complained for years and years at how bad Zeller was at protecting the paint and the rim.

Markkanen makes Zeller look like prime Mutumbo.

Enjoy him at the 5.

I’d much rather Turner.


Sure. BUT - Turner has a contract with another team and gets paid 18 million so we would have to trade some valuable pieces and likely pay more money to sign him. Maybe it is not an option?
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#744 » by Chapelchilla » Fri Aug 6, 2021 3:07 am

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LofJ wrote:You guys remember this game?



More examples of what the young man can do. Whose to say he’s done? A good team and development could create the star he was thought to be by many.

And yes I want Lauri and Turner.


I was there and he destroyed Zeller. Lauri, is no Zeller. Only just turned 24 and was shooting 50% plus with 19 and 6 avgs last year. Has Cody ever averaged more then like 12?
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#745 » by LofJ » Fri Aug 6, 2021 3:10 am

Snidely FC wrote:this team has Lamelo now I'd like to see it built around him when you've already got PJ MIles Kai Thor Richards Carey bigs who can fly around with Melo why add a relatively immobile non-defender big??? I understand what Markkenen brings but every roster spot represents an opportunity cost and I'd rather see those other young bigs get the playing time


I don't know what we have in Thor, but Markkanen is a far superior talent to both Carey and Richards. He can play with PJ, Kai, and Miles depending on matchups.

All 3 of those guys are still young, we don't need to have 6 frontcourt players all on rookie deals. Consolidating and running with Plumlee, PJ, Bridges, Kai, and Lauri playing the 4 and 5 is more than enough depth.
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Post#746 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Aug 6, 2021 3:54 am

Just thinking about getting Oubre and Lauri makes me really intrigued with our roster next season.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#747 » by LofJ » Fri Aug 6, 2021 3:59 am

Here's another one when Lauri was a rookie:



I didn't know that he could put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket this well.
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Post#748 » by CuseMayne » Fri Aug 6, 2021 4:15 am

LofJ wrote:Here's another one when Lauri was a rookie:



I didn't know that he could put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket this well.


Porzingis kept stuffing him though :lol:
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#749 » by amcoolio » Fri Aug 6, 2021 4:28 am

So the only way to get Lauri now would be a triple sign and trade with a salary per year near Graham's right?
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#750 » by JDR720 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 4:44 am

So, if we sign Kelly for 12m.

and If we figure out some convoluted sign & trade deal for Markkanen.

Do we still keep the MLE?

So, in theory, we could sign Kelly, Lauri and MLE guy?
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#751 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Aug 6, 2021 4:58 am

JDR720 wrote:So, if we sign Kelly for 12m.

and If we figure out some convoluted sign & trade deal for Markkanen.

Do we still keep the MLE?

So, in theory, we could sign Kelly, Lauri and MLE guy?


Theoretically I think you are correct. How all this could transpire I have no idea.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#752 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:23 am

Give me a Myles Turner trade now.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#753 » by CuseMayne » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:24 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Give me a Myles Turner trade now.


Goodness that'd be fun.

PJ for him...?
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#754 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:27 am

CuseMayne wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Give me a Myles Turner trade now.


Goodness that'd be fun.

PJ for him...?


PJ and New Orleans first would maybe get the conversation started
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#755 » by yosemiteben » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:00 am

JDR720 wrote:So, if we sign Kelly for 12m.

and If we figure out some convoluted sign & trade deal for Markkanen.

Do we still keep the MLE?

So, in theory, we could sign Kelly, Lauri and MLE guy?

I think we signed Ish with the MLE, it's already spoken for.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#756 » by LofJ » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:25 pm

I'm still not in love with our frontcourt depth. We added Plumlee and a possible long-term answer in Kai, but outside of Plumlee our experience is lacking.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#757 » by BigSlam » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:44 pm

LofJ wrote:Here's another one when Lauri was a rookie:

I didn't know that he could put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket this well.

Here's another perspective:

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Post#758 » by BigSlam » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:57 pm

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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#759 » by yosemiteben » Fri Aug 6, 2021 1:31 pm

Hey BOB, is it possible for us to use the trade exception generated by the Graham S&T on a separate Lari S&T?

I'm trying to figure out how to make a Lari deal possible with us committing the rest of our remaining cap space to Oubre.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency 

Post#760 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Aug 6, 2021 1:55 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Hey BOB, is it possible for us to use the trade exception generated by the Graham S&T on a separate Lari S&T?

I'm trying to figure out how to make a Lari deal possible with us committing the rest of our remaining cap space to Oubre.
There are a lot of estimates floating around but *in theory* they could still pick up Lauri if moves are ordered as followed:

1. Enter free agency with 12 contracts + Graham's cap hold
2. Use cap space to sign Oubre/trade for Plumlee
3. Use Graham in sign-and-trade to acquire Lauri at similar money
4. Sign Ish to Room MLE

The numbers - and roster spaces - get tight, so we're gonna need either a trade or a couple cuts to make it all work.


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