The Marvin Gaye Williams Thread

[EwingSweatsALot]

Marvin is going to shoot a FT today i think..

I have no reason to think this, but its something to look forward to i guess?

hell yeah! we should root for this to happen

time for some true Lolcats "things to watch for" during every game.

I think it might even be funnier if he doesn't shoot one. Like how comical can this get? How far can he go without shooting one? Can he break Battier's and Marion's streak. Can he go half the season. Can he not shoot a free throw until we have to take life from this planet and move it into an oxygen enclosed chamber on the moon and Mars? How far can this stretch?

Obviously, if he has to take some to win then I am all for him shooting them, but if they have no bearing I hope this streak continues until my nonexistent children have grandchildren.

[LamarMatic7]

Marvin is going to shoot a FT today i think..

I have no reason to think this, but its something to look forward to i guess?

hell yeah! we should root for this to happen

time for some true Lolcats "things to watch for" during every game.

I think it might even be funnier if he doesn't shoot one. Like how comical can this get? How far can he go without shooting one? Can he break Battier's and Marion's streak. Can he go half the season. Can he not shoot a free throw until we have to take life from this planet and move it into an oxygen enclosed chamber on the moon and Mars? How far can this stretch?

Obviously, if he has to take some to win then I am all for him shooting them, but if they have no bearing I hope this streak continues until my nonexistent children have grandchildren.

it definitely would help my case since it would have the relevance for me to do proper research on this and come up with something like "25 games in and Marvin hasn't shot a free throw year. 156 minutes left for him to break the NBA record"

[TheKingofSting]

Why Marvin will not take more midrange jumpers I will never understand.

[LamarMatic7]

Why Marvin will not take more midrange jumpers I will never understand.

because his style of play and our style of play creates a environment where the only time he touches the ball is an open catch-and-shoot three. sometimes it will be a two three feet closer.

[TheKingofSting]

He hit one against Miami and it just looked so natural.

[BigSlam]

I was wondering:

Dollar for dollar is Marv the most useless tit ever to wear a Charlotte basketball uniform?

I mean, for what he is paid and what he is/does, he has to be pushing the top of the list - right? The only other person that I was thinking might come close would be Brezec because he had that one nice contract. Funnily enough Marv and Brezec are basically the same player (although Marv less crazy......or gansta, depending on how you look at it).

But look at Marv, he really is pretty useless. He's terrible at rebounding, not a good passer, can't put the ball on the floor, can't create for himself, doesn't block shots, is completely terrible at team D either from the weak side or boxing out in general and often leaves his team mates hung out to dry. At least Brezec had size?

I'm sure someone will say "ya - but, but, but he hit's such a high % from the three point line".... but when has he ever done that to make a difference? It's not like he goes on little purple patches and fills up a 2-5 min span with 10+ points like a Neal or a Roberts. His made shots aren't game changers or momentum swingers. He is pretty much the most vanilla and non-impactful Charlotte player on that sort of contract in the NBA today. Isn't he?

[HornetJail]

He's the least talented $7M player I've ever watched

[LamarMatic7]

I was wondering:

Dollar for dollar is Marv the most useless tit ever to wear a Charlotte basketball uniform?

[HornetJail]

I was wondering:

Dollar for dollar is Marv the most useless tit ever to wear a Charlotte basketball uniform?

Thomas had some talent. Never used it, but Marvin has no upside to speak of either

[BigSlam]

I was wondering:

Dollar for dollar is Marv the most useless tit ever to wear a Charlotte basketball uniform?

Well played Lamar - but even Thomas could impact a game and swing the momentum with a sick block or a hustle play diving out of bounds for a loose ball or throwing down a monster dunk.

Marv is just so..............Marvin.

[yosemiteben]

Based on his percentages, Marvin needs to be attempting 10 - 12 shots per game. I really hope one of our tweaks is that we find a way to get him more involved offensively, even if he is supplanted by Cody in the starting lineup.

I think Marvin is a better fit offensively in the starting lineup as our only competent shooter, but his defense has been so poor that I'm ok with Cody taking that spot at this point.

Lamar pointed this out like a month ago, but I continue to be baffled that we don't use Marvin as an outlet off of doubles from Al. Since he is playing the four, maybe we like to park him in the far corner from Al because that ties up the other big and prevents him from doubling down on Al, but I would so much rather see Marvin on the same side as Al and be available for quick catch and shoot threes when defenders swarm on Al. We haven't seen any semblance of a high - low post game from those two, something I figured would almost certainly be a part of our offensive scheme.

[Liver_Pooty]

Based on his percentages, Marvin needs to be attempting 10 - 12 shots per game. I really hope one of our tweaks is that we find a way to get him more involved offensively, even if he is supplanted by Cody in the starting lineup.

I think Marvin is a better fit offensively in the starting lineup as our only competent shooter, but his defense has been so poor that I'm ok with Cody taking that spot at this point.

Lamar pointed this out like a month ago, but I continue to be baffled that we don't use Marvin as an outlet off of doubles from Al. Since he is playing the four, maybe we like to park him in the far corner from Al because that ties up the other big and prevents him from doubling down on Al, but I would so much rather see Marvin on the same side as Al and be available for quick catch and shoot threes when defenders swarm on Al. We haven't seen any semblance of a high - low post game from those two, something I figured would almost certainly be a part of our offensive scheme.

Don't let jdm see that poor defense comment.

[BeesWax]

Based on his percentages, Marvin needs to be attempting 10 - 12 shots per game. I really hope one of our tweaks is that we find a way to get him more involved offensively, even if he is supplanted by Cody in the starting lineup.

I think Marvin is a better fit offensively in the starting lineup as our only competent shooter, but his defense has been so poor that I'm ok with Cody taking that spot at this point.

Lamar pointed this out like a month ago, but I continue to be baffled that we don't use Marvin as an outlet off of doubles from Al. Since he is playing the four, maybe we like to park him in the far corner from Al because that ties up the other big and prevents him from doubling down on Al, but I would so much rather see Marvin on the same side as Al and be available for quick catch and shoot threes when defenders swarm on Al. We haven't seen any semblance of a high - low post game from those two, something I figured would almost certainly be a part of our offensive scheme.

Don't let jdm see that poor defense comment.

I see all. Sometimes you just have to let people live in their own fantasy world though.

[yosemiteben]

Don't let jdm see that poor defense comment.

I see all. Sometimes you just have to let people live in their own fantasy world though.

I don't get it. Do you disagree that Marvin has been playing poor defense? Why does every comment about our players have to be interpreted through the lens of your Al hatred?

Yes Al's defense has been bad. His offense has also been far more effective than anyone else on the floor. Setting aside your notions of fairness, my point was that Marvin is not doing enough on the floor to counterbalance his defensive liability. Plus go look at the stats I posted in the stats thread about our big man defense - Al hasn't been our worst big man defender, and his one on one defense has arguably been better than Biz.

[BeesWax]

Don't let jdm see that poor defense comment.

I see all. Sometimes you just have to let people live in their own fantasy world though.

I don't get it. Do you disagree that Marvin has been playing poor defense? Why does every comment about our players have to be interpreted through the lens of your Al hatred?

Yes Al's defense has been bad. His offense has also been far more effective than anyone else on the floor. Setting aside your notions of fairness, my point was that Marvin is not doing enough on the floor to counterbalance his defensive liability. Plus go look at the stats I posted in the stats thread about our big man defense - Al hasn't been our worst big man defender, and his one on one defense has arguably been better than Biz.

Since the stats you posted are not explained and I cannot recreate anything you have done there I cannot comment one way or the other. There could be a million things wrong with your stats or they could be great but I cannot confirm they are true and you did not post a link to the information. Those stats could be completely misleading if they don't take certain things into account but putting numbers out there that have no explanation does not help me at all.

If you watch the games, I am not saying you don't, you can tell who is trying and who is being effective. Al is worthless on defense and his offense stagnates everything so much he is the only one who has a chance to be effective. Every player we have puts up better numbers when Al is not on the floor and as a team we put up better numbers on offense and defense without him.

[yosemiteben]

Since the stats you posted are not explained and I cannot recreate anything you have done there I cannot comment one way or the other. There could be a million things wrong with your stats or they could be great but I cannot confirm they are true and you did not post a link to the information. Those stats could be completely misleading if they don't take certain things into account but putting numbers out there that have no explanation does not help me at all.

Will take it to the stats thread because this is getting off topic.

[BigSlam]

Since the stats you posted are not explained and I cannot recreate anything you have done there I cannot comment one way or the other. There could be a million things wrong with your stats or they could be great but I cannot confirm they are true and you did not post a link to the information. Those stats could be completely misleading if they don't take certain things into account but putting numbers out there that have no explanation does not help me at all.

Will take it to the stats thread because this is getting off topic.

You are right, let's get this back on track:

Marvin Williams sucks and is the worst big on our roster.

Carry on.....

[catch20two]

Marv for MVP. He's been great so far. Good defense and despite not averaging a lot of points he has been our best shooter. If everybody played like Marv we would be 13-4 right now. I'm starting to like the signing.

[Liver_Pooty]

Marv for MVP. He's been great so far. Good defense and despite not averaging a lot of points he has been our best shooter. If everybody played like Marv we would be 13-4 right now. I'm starting to like the signing.

Lol who the hell hacked your account?

[TheKingofSting]

Can Marv even be considered a big?