McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread

Post #781 » by **JDR720** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:52 pm

amcoolio wrote:Doesn't matter now, he'll play PF next to Bosh. Al should wreck that group. But on defense it'll be a struggle.

Cody vs Josh, i wanna see it, Cody should be able to do well against him

BlackOutBuzz · Post #782 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:04 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
BlackOutBobcat wrote:He hasn't signed. They were planning on giving him the mid-level, which only exists if you're over the cap. Miami is still far from that.

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though they did come to an agreement. hypothetically, shouldn't it mean that they now still have to sign him to that deal, only it being a regular contract of a team operating under the cap?

In theory, yes. Point being though that pen hasn't been put to paper yet. I don't think it'd be absurd for he and Granger to do some reconsidering, or even try for more money since the Heat can give them more than the amounts previously dictated by their respective exceptions.

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Eoghan · Post #783 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:18 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:I think both sides offered the mid-level, but they were offering more years and LeBron.

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They also offered no state income tax and Miami so.... yeah, can't blame him.

Post #784 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:23 am

BrotherDave wrote:
BlackOutBobcat wrote:I think both sides offered the mid-level, but they were offering more years and LeBron.

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They also offered no state income tax and Miami so.... yeah, can't blame him.

Then again, no Bojangles.

MasterIchiro · Post #785 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:47 am

yosemiteben wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
BlackOutBobcat wrote:I think both sides offered the mid-level, but they were offering more years and LeBron.

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They also offered no state income tax and Miami so.... yeah, can't blame him.

Then again, no Bojangles.

There's plenty of food fried in carcinogenic genetically modified soybean oil, in every major city.

TheKingofSting · Post #786 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:59 am

I wonder if they will start him with Bosh, they are a scrub team now even if they get Deng.

Snidely FC · Post #787 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:29 pm

He's not going to change his mind and come back because Charlotte pushed him out. McRoberts said he wanted a home, a place where he could play a lot and be an important contributor. Josh may look 35 but he is only 27! He's about to hit the peak of his career.

He had to leave the second CHA drafted Vonleh. The Hornets are going to be looking to develop Zeller and Vonleh. What kind of playing time does that leave McRoberts in 2 years? 3 years? 4 years? Remember, he's only 27.

Meanwhile, to those of you who cheer his departure, I would ask you to look at his assist numbers not his ppg to gauge his importance. McRoberts averaged almost 5 assits per game. Joakim Noah is the only big who averaged more. Boris Diaw, seen as such a strong passer and important role player for SA, averaged 2.8 apg.

Zeller will be a good player in the league, but he will never replace McRoberts passing and screaning abilities. For all Zeller's talent, playmaking is not his strong suit. Vonleh is 18, with undeniable talent, but 18. Those who know Vonleh will be an impact player in the NBA will need to wait several years.

I can only assume that mgmt thought that they could replace McRoberts playmaking with Gordon Hayward, who averages more than 5 apg. That's a great idea in principle, but it looks like that is not going to happen, with UTA saying they will match, and even if it does happen CHA has to pay a pretty penny to get him, possibly damaging the team's ability to resign its own young up and coming stars.

This all could have been handled so differently. Draft McDermott, keep McRoberts, take a PG at 24, sign unrestricted players for balance and depth, protect coveted cap space. Instead its a head-scratching jumble. I hope it all settles out well, but in the meantime I can't get over how injurious to the team driving McRoberts away looks to be.

RichBoy923 · Post #788 » by **RichBoy923** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:12 pm

Do you think McRoberts left because we drafted Vonleh or do you think we drafted Vonleh just in case McRoberts left? We did offer him a very similar contract as the Heat so it's not like we weren't committed.

Snidely FC · Post #789 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:25 pm

RichBoy923 wrote:Do you think McRoberts left because we drafted Vonleh or do you think we drafted Vonleh just in case McRoberts left? We did offer him a very similar contract as the Heat so it's not like we weren't committed.

I would guess CHA did not expect Vonleh to be available at 9, but when he fell to them they no longer felt comfortable offering McRoberts the fourth year MIA did. CHA made McRoberts a comparable offer money wise, but he was now looking at competing with two top ten draft choices for playing time, and one fewer year on the contract vs. going to MIA where he will get boucoup playing time.

Tarheel11981 · Post #790 » by **Tarheel11981** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:43 pm

Vonleh actually fits perfectly next to Big Al. He has the ability to stretch the floor while Al occupies the low block. It's going to take some time, but I think he's going to turn into a good player, rotational at worst.

Eoghan · Post #791 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:45 pm

We should have signed McRoberts to a long-term contract and made him our Nick Collison after a couple of years.

UNCNYC · Post #792 » by **UNCNYC** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:58 pm

I wouldn't mind Dudley. Maybe VonLeh is readyso who knows. Actually the more I think about it its good that we dont have McRoberts in a way because signing him to a long term deal would or could have hurt VonLeh

LamarMatic7 · Post #793 » by **LamarMatic7** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 2:37 pm

McBob rocking the bun:

http://www.nba.com/heat/news/miamis-new-flex-four

Post #794 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 2:50 pm

Nice quote from that McBob article:

“He was the right coach for me,” McRoberts said. “I feel kind of disrespected when people say it’s a breakout year for me because I was just never given an opportunity before that. Whenever I’ve been given an opportunity, I feel like I’ve had success in whatever role is asked of me. I’ll be forever grateful to Cliff for giving me an opportunity last year and we were able to put together a good season as a team.”

Wish McBobs the best down in Miami, looking forward to seeing how he does.

UNCNYC · Post #795 » by **UNCNYC** » Fri Oct 3, 2014 1:15 pm

I wish we had him. I think if we had him we would be right there with all the other top teams

Liver_Pooty · Post #796 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:41 am

He said he’s disappointed Josh McRoberts chose to leave for the Miami Heat, but that McRoberts’ departure wasn’t because the Hornets weren’t willing to pay him as much as the Heat did.

If thats the case so long. He must have felt that he would be eventually supplanted by Zeller. Complete BS if you ask me. If not for us giving him a chance he wouldn't have received that contract.

The quoted part was in Jordans interview today.

TheKingofSting · Post #797 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:59 am

If you go ring chasing you should probably be for sure the most important piece isn't bailing out.

catch20two · Post #798 » by **catch20two** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:11 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
He said he’s disappointed Josh McRoberts chose to leave for the Miami Heat, but that McRoberts’ departure wasn’t because the Hornets weren’t willing to pay him as much as the Heat did.

If thats the case so long. He must have felt that he would be eventually supplanted by Zeller. Complete BS if you ask me. If not for us giving him a chance he wouldn't have received that contract.

The quoted part was in Jordans interview today.

Mcbob did the same thing to the Pacers during their rebuild after they gave him a chance and left for the brighter lights with the Lakers. You would have thought he'd know better but I guess not. He want to be famous so bad. Lol

Liver_Pooty · Post #799 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:13 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
He said he’s disappointed Josh McRoberts chose to leave for the Miami Heat, but that McRoberts’ departure wasn’t because the Hornets weren’t willing to pay him as much as the Heat did.

If thats the case so long. He must have felt that he would be eventually supplanted by Zeller. Complete BS if you ask me. If not for us giving him a chance he wouldn't have received that contract.

The quoted part was in Jordans interview today.

Mcbob did the same thing to the Pacers during their rebuild after they gave him a chance and left for the brighter lights with the Lakers. You would have thought he'd know better but I guess not. He want to be famous so bad. Lol

If he did really leave us when we were ready to basically give him the same amount (which is what Jordan is implying) than to hell with him. Would have loved him to be here, but thats ridiculous.

Post #800 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:15 am

If this is true that seems like a serious flip of the narrative - folks were ready to burn Cho at the stake for letting McRoberts get away on that deal.