The Trade Thread

JT2006 · Post #81 » by **JT2006** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:23 pm

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:
Stun704 wrote:As much as I love biz I'd trade him for T-Rob straight up, I feel that T-rob is just in the wrong system, as Great as MKG is, Dunlaps system is almost perfect for him, I think we'd be gushing as much for T-Rob if we had drafted him instead, because he'd be perfect for this system as well.. having Both T-Rob and MKG? well damn....

Kemba/Taylor/MKG/T-Rob/Future Center is the building blocks of a contender IMO

However if we could get T-Rob somehow without trading Biz I'd like that even more...

Sessions + Det 1st + Portland 1st for T-Rob and Udrih?

Kemba/Taylor/MKG/T-Rob/Bismack

I think that's an overpay for us and bad fit for Sacramento, not to mention Udrih hasn't been in Sacramento since the Stephen Jackson trade. They'd need a front court player back. They already have Evans, Thornton, Thomas, Aaron Brooks, Garcia, and Salmons. Adding Sessions would be useless to them, and I think Sessions has been a big part of our success so far. I wasn't huge on T-Rob, but I think I'd trade Bismack straight up for him if the Kings asked.

The value might be close but trading two big prospects for each other just doesn't happen often. It'd be like trading Drummond for Robinson. Why? Both are unknown quantities at this point, and neither team really has an angle. We'd be better off keeping Biz for now and I doubt Sactown would attempt this trade.

chrbal · Post #82 » by **chrbal** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:38 pm

December 15th. I think if the Bucks haven't traded Gooden, Charlotte should offer Hakim Warrick and Cory Higgins (to make the numbers work) for Drew Gooden and a conditional 1st.

Bucks get two expiring contracts and save about $2 mil. Bobcats add a decent big and 1st.

JT2006 · Post #83 » by **JT2006** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:39 pm

chrbal wrote:December 15th. I think if the Bucks haven't traded Gooden, Charlotte should offer Hakim Warrick and Cory Higgins (to make the numbers work) for Drew Gooden and a conditional 1st.

Bucks get two expiring contracts and save about $2 mil. Bobcats add a decent big and 1st.

Hm... I think the value here can be found in how bad you think the bucks will be this year. Even if we end up with a bad pick, it's a better trade asset than Warrick or Higgins. But would Higgins trade his son?

penquin11 · Post #84 » by **penquin11** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:16 pm

MPM wrote:
doc.end wrote:If we are to absorb Bargnani, I would design that trade around getting rid of Tyrus.

I am trying to imagine the utter gloriousness of a Mullens/Bargnani frontcourt.

No. No. No. No. Bargnani has a career high of 8 rebounds... 8, Kemba Walker, who is 1ft shorter, has had more rebounds than that.

chrbal wrote:December 15th. I think if the Bucks haven't traded Gooden, Charlotte should offer Hakim Warrick and Cory Higgins (to make the numbers work) for Drew Gooden and a conditional 1st.

Bucks get two expiring contracts and save about $2 mil. Bobcats add a decent big and 1st.

Gooden wouldn't provide much of an upgrade while also having a bad contract if I remember. I understand the want for a conditional 1st, but it just doesn't seem worth it to me if it were for this years draft class.

HornetJail · Post #85 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:19 pm

Bragnani's career high is 17 rebounds. The guy who posted 8 as his career high was obviously trying to troll. He's had more this season already.

I like chrbal's trade a lot. Let's get a lotto-protected pick in exchange for taking on Gooden's contract.

Jajwanda · Post #86 » by **Jajwanda** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:24 am

What would you guys trade for Gasol seeing that you could use a C.

HornetJail · Post #87 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:40 am

We probably wouldn't. I don't think we want his contract unless we can get it for just expiring deals. (Assuming we're talking about Pau Gasol, who is a power forward)

Liver_Pooty · Post #88 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:41 am

Jajwanda wrote:What would you guys trade for Gasol seeing that you could use a C.

No one.

SWedd523 · Post #89 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:52 am

Bargnani's career high is 12 rebounds

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... der_by=pts

e4Nf6 · Post #90 » by **e4Nf6** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:14 am

It's 17. January 11th 2010 vs. the Pacers.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 10IND.html

Although he definitely is a uniquely bad rebounder for his height. His career Rebound% is 9.5% in comparison Kemba and Ramon Sessions are both around 7.5%

doc.end · Post #91 » by **doc.end** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:41 am

Bargani here would be meant as Mullens' back up how can anyone think differently?!

SWedd523 · Post #92 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:46 am

hmm wonder why that one doesn't show up on his gamefinder search

HornetJail · Post #93 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:58 am

SWedd523 wrote:hmm wonder why that one doesn't show up on his gamefinder search

It does. It was on the third page of your br search.
Here it is

SWedd523 · Post #94 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:12 am

Oh yeah I didn't sort the results by TRB. When you click the heading instead of sorting by X in the search form then it doesn't show it all.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... der_by=trb

23 games in his career. Less than 6% of all of his games has he hit double digit boards. Pathetic

Kembastockton · Post #95 » by **Kembastockton** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:48 pm

doc.end wrote:Bargani here would be meant as Mullens' back up how can anyone think differently?!

Because teams rarely trade for a 33 million dollar player to introduce him to their pine.

doc.end · Post #96 » by **doc.end** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:09 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:
doc.end wrote:Bargani here would be meant as Mullens' back up how can anyone think differently?!

Because teams rarely trade for a 33 million dollar player to introduce him to their pine.

Tyrus Thomas. Rarely happens.

Well, if we would treat him based on money invested in him we won't trade for him. And how many millions dollar player is Mullens going to be?

BTW see Gordon, Ben. He is more expensive than our starting lineup. Plays rather by default, thin bench.

chrbal · Post #97 » by **chrbal** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:48 pm

Pau Gasol- If the Lakers want to take back Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas. NO draft picks from the Bobcats. Steve Blake and Chris Duhon don't wind up as Bobcats. Then, maybe.

Andrea Bargnani- why is it that every time I see him play I think Christtian Laettner is back?

rackem13 · Post #98 » by **rackem13** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:26 am

Something along the lines of a milsap move with our help.

Cha out: Hendo, Mullens, Diop, 2014 2nd
Cha In: Humphries, Shengelia BKN 2013 1st

BKN Out: Brooks, Humph, Shengelia, 2013 1st,
BKN In: Milsap, Hendo

UTH Out: Milsap
UTH In: Mullens, Diop, Brooks, 2014 2nd

KembaWalker · Post #99 » by **KembaWalker** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:35 pm

I feel like now is the time to buy low on Bargnani. Yes he sucks, but he's better than what we have and we need bigs. Picking him up for Tyrus or something would be a coup.

Kembastockton · Post #100 » by **Kembastockton** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:45 pm

Tyrus Thomas. Rarely happens.
Well, if we would treat him based on money invested in him we won't trade for him. And how many millions dollar player is Mullens going to be?
BTW see Gordon, Ben. He is more expensive than our starting lineup. Plays rather by default, thin bench

1. We gave Tyrus that ridiculous contract to be Boris's eventual successor. We did not trade for it.
2. To early to tell yet, but unless someone else greatly over pays no where near what Bargs was given.
3. True, but Ben came with a potential top 10 pick without giving up any of our core players. If Cho can do the same with Bargs I'll prove to ya'll that not all black men can dance.

Cha out: Hendo, Mullens, Diop, 2014 2nd
Cha In: Humphries, Shengelia BKN 2013 1st

No way! Mully is already eclipsing Kris who is 27 to Byron's 23. Then we give up Hendo and a pick too?

KembaWalker wrote:I feel like now is the time to buy low on Bargnani. Yes he sucks, but he's better than what we have and we need bigs. Picking him up for Tyrus or something would be a coup.

If we could echange him for Tyrus that would be awesome, but we all know that Toronto would never do that. They already have Amir and Ed who can both be effective at the four. Why would they need an over payed under acheiver like Tyrus?