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Post#81 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:53 pm

Beginning to think we may try to sign Deng.
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Post#82 » by Benjamin Linus » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:56 pm

How much do you think Ariza will get this offseason? We could really use some 3 & D guys on this team. He'll be 29 so I can't imagine him getting a whole lot, definitely less than 5 mill a year, no?
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#83 » by LamarMatic7 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:27 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:How much do you think Ariza will get this offseason? We could really use some 3 & D guys on this team. He'll be 29 so I can't imagine him getting a whole lot, definitely less than 5 mill a year, no?

A 27-year-old Corey Brewer received 14mil for 3 years last summer. I suppose him and Ariza are somewhat comparable, so, yes, less than 5mil a year is a good guess.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with  

Post#84 » by dmutombo321 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:33 pm

I'm not opposed to Hayward as a fallback if he can be signed reasonably but would hope that Stephenson would be their first choice.

He's a much better defender than Hayward and far more efficient. I think alot of people are going to be surprised by the jump in Lance's scoring average if he lands somewhere like Charlotte where he is the primary offensive option on the wings.

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-Try to dump hendo's salary to a playoff team with a tpe actively seeking bench help (i.e Golden state or OKC)
-Draft a strong shooter at SF with the detroit pick or ours (assuming we get one or both), i.e Hood or McDermott. Alternatively, if we can dump Hendo's salary as noted above and take a non-SF BPA with our pick, use the $ freed up from hendo on a 3 and D SF like Ariza.
-Make a generous offer Indy cant match to Lance coupled with a recruiting pitch by Jordan. If this fails, perhaps look at Hayward as a potential alternative.

Walker / Stephenson / Pargo (or Sessions if he can be retained cost effectively)
Stephenson / Cheap FA like a Morrow or Miles
McDermott (or a Hood or outside shooting FA SF like Ariza) / MKG / Tolliver
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#85 » by Benjamin Linus » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:41 pm

I'm definitely on board with a Stephenson + Hood offseason.

Anyway, what do you guys think about Jordan Hill as a cheap pickup?

I'll admit that I don't really know much about him, besides that he rebounds at a very high rate. How is his defense? Could he be a very cheap alternative to Taj Gibson?
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Post#86 » by Snidely FC » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:53 pm

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Post#87 » by thruthefire » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:43 pm

I tend to think the opposite would happen with Stephenson. He becomes the center of the defense's focus, and his efficiency drops a lot. That's what's happened to Hayward.

Lance doesn't strike me as a guy who will ever be a big scorer. I bet he would still be behind Al and Kemba in the pecking order here, rightfully or wrongly, and be comfortable with that. Indiana is only 20th in Offensive Efficiency, so it's not like they couldn't use more scoring from Lance.

All that said, he would still be my first choice as well, primarily because we don't know what his ceiling is, whereas we do with Hayward.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with  

Post#88 » by JDR720 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:02 pm

Lance is an all-around player, he can do everything and do it all well
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with  

Post#89 » by Diop » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:04 am

I like Stephenson to allow Kemba to play off the ball a little, but I agree his offensive efficiency will definitely drop if made the primary wing scorer.
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Post#90 » by dmutombo321 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:56 am

thruthefire wrote:I tend to think the opposite would happen with Stephenson. He becomes the center of the defense's focus, and his efficiency drops a lot. That's what's happened to Hayward.

Lance doesn't strike me as a guy who will ever be a big scorer. I bet he would still be behind Al and Kemba in the pecking order here, rightfully or wrongly, and be comfortable with that. Indiana is only 20th in Offensive Efficiency, so it's not like they couldn't use more scoring from Lance.

All that said, he would still be my first choice as well, primarily because we don't know what his ceiling is, whereas we do with Hayward.


Agree we can expect Stephenson's efficiency to take a hit to some degree once he's the man somewhere, be it in Charlotte or elsewhere and defenses are geared towards stopping him.

I think he can average around 18-21ppg but would never expect him to be able to do so with the 50%+FG shooting he is sporting right now. However, even if he experiences a 5-6 percentage point drop, 44-45% is highly respectable for a wing.

Hayward is barely even mustering 40% this year and was still only at 43% last season as a third option behind jefferson and milsap- that's what concerns me about Gordon. I like Hayward too but feel the danger of awarding him a toxic contract is greater than with Lance who I think has greater upside.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#91 » by SeanBobcats » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:59 am

dmutombo321 wrote:
thruthefire wrote:I tend to think the opposite would happen with Stephenson. He becomes the center of the defense's focus, and his efficiency drops a lot. That's what's happened to Hayward.

Lance doesn't strike me as a guy who will ever be a big scorer. I bet he would still be behind Al and Kemba in the pecking order here, rightfully or wrongly, and be comfortable with that. Indiana is only 20th in Offensive Efficiency, so it's not like they couldn't use more scoring from Lance.

All that said, he would still be my first choice as well, primarily because we don't know what his ceiling is, whereas we do with Hayward.


Agree we can expect Stephenson's efficiency to take a hit to some degree once he's the man somewhere, be it in Charlotte or elsewhere and defenses are geared towards stopping him.

I think he can average around 18-21ppg but would never expect him to be able to do so with the 50%+FG shooting he is sporting right now. However, even if he experiences a 5-6 percentage point drop, 44-45% is highly respectable for a wing.

Hayward is barely even mustering 40% this year and was still only at 43% last season as a third option behind jefferson and milsap- that's what concerns me about Gordon. I like Hayward too but feel the danger of awarding him a toxic contract is greater than with Lance who I think has greater upside.


Lance would be like the 2nd or maybe even 3rd option. I think he fits perfectly. He might not be ass efficient as he is with Indy, but like 16 points on 48 percent would be nice. He's also the best rebounding guard in the league. Absolutely outstanding for a guard and the fact that he's doing it on the 4th best rebounding team in the league makes it even more impressive. Averaging 9 boards over the last 10. Also can create for others, and play great defense. He fits perfectly in Charlotte, I just hope we can get a good PF to put by Big Al.
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Post#92 » by Red Larrivee » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:16 pm

The Bobcats could end up doing a lot. Currently, they're projected to have anywhere from $17-19.6M in cap space this summer. The back end is the number without Josh McRoberts and the front is with him.


Free Agents Renounced, McRoberts Opts Out
Al Jefferson $13,500,000
Gerald Henderson $6,000,000
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist $5,016,960
Cody Zeller $4,030,560
Bismack Biyombo $3,873,398
Kemba Walker $3,272,091
Brendan Haywood $2,213,688
1st Round Pick (DET) $1,998,200
1st Round Pick (POR) $991,000
Jeffery Taylor $915,243
cap hold $507,336
cap hold $507,336
Available: $19,674,188

I think they're going to look to upgrade SF or PF. So Rudy Gay or Luol Deng make sense as targets. I think Deng would be more likely because his perimeter defense would appeal to Clifford as it has to Tom Thibodeau. Clifford uses a similar defensive system as well.

So they could add Deng or Gay, a $5-6M player (or split that number) and a room MLE player to round the roster out. The team could be really deep next year. I'm guessing shooting and scoring will be a big focus.

I can't see them using all of their space on one player, but I doubt any of the elite FA's are going to come here.
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Post#93 » by HornetJail » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:34 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:The Bobcats could end up doing a lot. Currently, they're projected to have anywhere from $17-19.6M in cap space this summer. The back end is the number without Josh McRoberts and the front is with him.


Free Agents Renounced, McRoberts Opts Out
Al Jefferson $13,500,000
Gerald Henderson $6,000,000
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist $5,016,960
Cody Zeller $4,030,560
Bismack Biyombo $3,873,398
Kemba Walker $3,272,091
Brendan Haywood $2,213,688
1st Round Pick (DET) $1,998,200
1st Round Pick (POR) $991,000
Jeffery Taylor $915,243
cap hold $507,336
cap hold $507,336
Available: $19,674,188

I think they're going to look to upgrade SF or PF. So Rudy Gay or Luol Deng make sense as targets. I think Deng would be more likely because his perimeter defense would appeal to Clifford as it has to Tom Thibodeau. Clifford uses a similar defensive system as well.

So they could add Deng or Gay, a $5-6M player (or split that number) and a room MLE player to round the roster out. The team could be really deep next year. I'm guessing shooting and scoring will be a big focus.

I can't see them using all of their space on one player, but I doubt any of the elite FA's are going to come here.

We actually have more space than I thought! Some of that will probably go into re-signing McBob and hopefully Tolliver. We need a new backup PG (Bayless seems like a good option, as he shoots threes). McBob, Tolliver, Bayless together shouldn't amount to more than 8M. That leaves... 8-9M or so? Is that enough for Lance?
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#94 » by gehenherzog » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:38 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:The Bobcats could end up doing a lot. Currently, they're projected to have anywhere from $17-19.6M in cap space this summer. The back end is the number without Josh McRoberts and the front is with him.


Free Agents Renounced, McRoberts Opts Out
Al Jefferson $13,500,000
Gerald Henderson $6,000,000
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist $5,016,960
Cody Zeller $4,030,560
Bismack Biyombo $3,873,398
Kemba Walker $3,272,091
Brendan Haywood $2,213,688
1st Round Pick (DET) $1,998,200
1st Round Pick (POR) $991,000
Jeffery Taylor $915,243
cap hold $507,336
cap hold $507,336
Available: $19,674,188

I think they're going to look to upgrade SF or PF. So Rudy Gay or Luol Deng make sense as targets. I think Deng would be more likely because his perimeter defense would appeal to Clifford as it has to Tom Thibodeau. Clifford uses a similar defensive system as well.

So they could add Deng or Gay, a $5-6M player (or split that number) and a room MLE player to round the roster out. The team could be really deep next year. I'm guessing shooting and scoring will be a big focus.

I can't see them using all of their space on one player, but I doubt any of the elite FA's are going to come here.



Absolute perfect scenario, in my opinion:

Add Luol Deng
Add Lance Stephenson
Draft McDermott
Draft... I really don't care at this point with Portlands pick because it really is a toss up. Maybe Montrezl Harrell?

That makes a pretty damn solid lineup. Can we afford to pay Deng and Stephenson?
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Post#95 » by Red Larrivee » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:42 pm

It depends how much Stephenson is seeking. Deng is rumored to want a lot of money as well, so I would say no.
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Post#96 » by gehenherzog » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:52 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:It depends how much Stephenson is seeking. Deng is rumored to want a lot of money as well, so I would say no.



Hell, keep the scenario I said but only sign Lance or Deng. Resign Tolliver. That would work. Would still be a solid lineup.
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Post#98 » by Hugo The Hornet » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:57 pm

Why we not sign Glen Davis? He's great option to replace McRoberts, he could be amazing PF for us.
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Post#99 » by catch20two » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:09 pm

Hugo The Hornet wrote:Why we not sign Glen Davis? He's great option to replace McRoberts, he could be amazing PF for us.

He would've been a good pickup for us but I don't even think he considered us. He wanted to reunite with KG in Brooklyn or Doc in LA. Now he's about to sign with the Clippers.
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Post#100 » by HornetJail » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:14 pm

Hugo The Hornet wrote:Why we not sign Glen Davis? He's great option to replace McRoberts, he could be amazing PF for us.

I wouldn't want Davis to replace McBob as a starter. McBob does a lot of little things as a glue guy. Davis is a bad fit with Jefferson in any case.
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