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Re: Around the NBA 8.0 

Post#81 » by Benjamin Linus » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:03 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Benjamin Linus wrote:Just going over some boxscores from last night... my dude CJ McCollum!!!!

Man, I was pretty bummed out when Portland didn't throw him in the Batum trade. I've thrown his name around the Fake Trade thread quite a few times over the last couple of years. Should have bought low. 37 points, 6-9 from three. Yeah, I know it's one game, but damn, sure sounds better than starting PJ effing Hairston.

They weren't going to give him up. They were going young.

That makes sense, I guess he seemed more attainable when they were playing him third string behind Matthews and Afflalo.
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Post#82 » by yosemiteben » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:05 pm

There are some interesting matchups tonight among teams that are considered to be similarly situated in the EC playoff race:

MIA @ CLE
TOR @ BOS
CHI @ DET
WAS @ MIL

Looking forward to seeing how these games go.
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Post#83 » by yosemiteben » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:46 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AminESPN/status/659951837110407168[/tweet]

Grantland wrote:When Lance isn’t engaged, though, it’s like watching a dude who just shotgunned two beers, hit a dutch maybe half an hour ago, but is still like “Oh, I’m good to play.” For instance — this sequence, in which Lance plays defense like he was just recently shot with a tranquilizer dart.

I think my favorite part is at 12 seconds when Lance looks like a drunk on the deck of ship in a storm.

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Post#84 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:56 pm

Mystical Apples wrote:Dallas will be fine. I doubt 50 wins and 45 might be a challenge but they'll have Parsons, Matthews, and Williams back soon and my man Zaza is better than people think. They'd contend for a second seed in the east.

Something to keep an eye on is they need a center and also have less cap space than most teams next summer. A trade for a center on a large expiring might both help the short and long term with Cuban never shy about clearing the deck. When Williams signed Harris became more expendable.

Admittedly this is the over/under which I'm now regretting but either way I took the under at 36.5 (probably wouldn't do that now).

I seriously doubt that they will reach .500.
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Post#85 » by KDATX » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:03 pm

Things that interest me tonight:

How does Stanley Johnson/Reggie Bullock look in extended minutes with J. Meeks out for 12 weeks.
Giannis is back! Maybe 3rd year leap?
How does Okafor look against Gobert/Favors? Probably not as good as vs Lee/TZeller/Sullinger
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Post#86 » by yosemiteben » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:10 pm

Good call on Okafor against the Jazz's post D, that should be fun.
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Post#87 » by Mystical Apples » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:23 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
Mystical Apples wrote:Dallas will be fine. I doubt 50 wins and 45 might be a challenge but they'll have Parsons, Matthews, and Williams back soon and my man Zaza is better than people think. They'd contend for a second seed in the east.

Something to keep an eye on is they need a center and also have less cap space than most teams next summer. A trade for a center on a large expiring might both help the short and long term with Cuban never shy about clearing the deck. When Williams signed Harris became more expendable.

Admittedly this is the over/under which I'm now regretting but either way I took the under at 36.5 (probably wouldn't do that now).

I seriously doubt that they will reach .500.


A lot of question marks. I view them like Miami with potential but unsure if it will be realized. I have a better feeling about Dallas though for various reasons.
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Post#88 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:45 pm

Mystical Apples wrote:
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Mystical Apples wrote:Dallas will be fine. I doubt 50 wins and 45 might be a challenge but they'll have Parsons, Matthews, and Williams back soon and my man Zaza is better than people think. They'd contend for a second seed in the east.

Something to keep an eye on is they need a center and also have less cap space than most teams next summer. A trade for a center on a large expiring might both help the short and long term with Cuban never shy about clearing the deck. When Williams signed Harris became more expendable.

Admittedly this is the over/under which I'm now regretting but either way I took the under at 36.5 (probably wouldn't do that now).

I seriously doubt that they will reach .500.


A lot of question marks. I view them like Miami with potential but unsure if it will be realized. I have a better feeling about Dallas though for various reasons.


what are the various reasons then?

Parsons and Matthews might not be themselves until New Year. Deron Williams being back doesn't matter all that much, he's washed up and bad when compared to other starting point guards.

Zaza is better than people think but worse than most starting big men among the Western playoff teams. Moreover, he's not nearly athletic enough to compensate for Dirk's shortcomings on defense.
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Post#89 » by Mystical Apples » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:12 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
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LamarMatic7 wrote:Admittedly this is the over/under which I'm now regretting but either way I took the under at 36.5 (probably wouldn't do that now).

I seriously doubt that they will reach .500.


A lot of question marks. I view them like Miami with potential but unsure if it will be realized. I have a better feeling about Dallas though for various reasons.


what are the various reasons then?

Parsons and Matthews might not be themselves until New Year. Deron Williams being back doesn't matter all that much, he's washed up and bad when compared to other starting point guards.

Zaza is better than people think but worse than most starting big men among the Western playoff teams. Moreover, he's not nearly athletic enough to compensate for Dirk's shortcomings on defense.


It's more about my lack of faith in Miami and specifically Whiteside. He's incredibly overrated and besides the talent and box scores I think he'll hurt his team this year. His presence slides Bosh out of his most effective position and that alone makes them worse. If Bosh gets 2/3 of his time at center I'd feel differently. Amare, Haslem, and Birdman will be net minus rotation players. They're depth at wing is thin and that includes an older Wade and a rookie, and their PG depth is questionable depending which Mario the team gets although I like him better than most.

Miami should trade Whiteside for a rotation piece. Ironically, I think both Charlotte and Miami could be Dallas trade partners and/or with Houston

Dirk is perpetually underrated. Williams is still a decent PG who if evaluated at face value is a good add for them. He and Harris will be interchangeable combos and can compete with most back courts. Matthews of course is a wild card but if he's healthy that team will have an aggressive soul. The difference for me is I see very little chance for turmoil with a floor around 40 wins.
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Re: Around the NBA 8.0 

Post#90 » by yosemiteben » Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:01 pm

Tim MacMahon ‏@espn_macmahon 29m29 minutes ago
Worth noting: DeAndre Jordan, the big man with the supposedly increased offensive role, was 2-of-2 from the floor vs. Mavs.

Hmm...
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Post#91 » by HornetJail » Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:55 pm

yosemiteben wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/AminESPN/status/659951837110407168[/tweet]

Grantland wrote:When Lance isn’t engaged, though, it’s like watching a dude who just shotgunned two beers, hit a dutch maybe half an hour ago, but is still like “Oh, I’m good to play.” For instance — this sequence, in which Lance plays defense like he was just recently shot with a tranquilizer dart.

I think my favorite part is at 12 seconds when Lance looks like a drunk on the deck of ship in a storm.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nba-overnight-where-was-the-spark/

Unacceptable play, but they focused on Lance, when the entire Clippers team was basically doing the same damn thing on that possession.
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Post#92 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:27 pm

Mystical Apples wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:
Mystical Apples wrote:
A lot of question marks. I view them like Miami with potential but unsure if it will be realized. I have a better feeling about Dallas though for various reasons.


what are the various reasons then?

Parsons and Matthews might not be themselves until New Year. Deron Williams being back doesn't matter all that much, he's washed up and bad when compared to other starting point guards.

Zaza is better than people think but worse than most starting big men among the Western playoff teams. Moreover, he's not nearly athletic enough to compensate for Dirk's shortcomings on defense.


It's more about my lack of faith in Miami and specifically Whiteside. He's incredibly overrated and besides the talent and box scores I think he'll hurt his team this year. His presence slides Bosh out of his most effective position and that alone makes them worse. If Bosh gets 2/3 of his time at center I'd feel differently. Amare, Haslem, and Birdman will be net minus rotation players. They're depth at wing is thin and that includes an older Wade and a rookie, and their PG depth is questionable depending which Mario the team gets although I like him better than most.

Miami should trade Whiteside for a rotation piece. Ironically, I think both Charlotte and Miami could be Dallas trade partners and/or with Houston

Dirk is perpetually underrated. Williams is still a decent PG who if evaluated at face value is a good add for them. He and Harris will be interchangeable combos and can compete with most back courts. Matthews of course is a wild card but if he's healthy that team will have an aggressive soul. The difference for me is I see very little chance for turmoil with a floor around 40 wins.


oh ok.. I thought it was moreso about Dallas. didn't see Miami entering this conversation.
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Post#93 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:42 am

Was watching a bit of the Miami-Cleveland game. Winslow was playing nice D on Lebron.
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Post#94 » by Braggins » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:37 am

Orlando scored 136 points in 2ot vs. the Thunder. We might be one of the worst teams in the East.
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Post#95 » by JDR720 » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:39 am

Braggins wrote:Orlando scored 136 points in 2ot vs. the Thunder. We might be one of the worst teams in the East.

I like orlandos core quite a bit, not the best fit but still very talented.
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Post#96 » by Braggins » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:42 am

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Braggins wrote:Orlando scored 136 points in 2ot vs. the Thunder. We might be one of the worst teams in the East.

I like orlandos core quite a bit, not the best fit but still very talented.

I would get rid of Vucevic for a better defender or a big that can shoot.. I really like Payton, Oladipo, Harris, Hezonja, and Gordon.
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Post#97 » by HornetJail » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:55 am

you guys are way higher on Orlando than I am. Hezonja/Dipo/Vuc is a very nice trio to build around, but nobody else fits. Gordon will be Tyrus Thomas all over again, Payton is a mess, and Harris is an empty-stats kind of player to me. If I'm Orlando, I clear those guys off, and find a sucker that gives me a great shooter and a good pick for all three of them, tank for Ben Simmons, and offer Mike Conley a full max deal next summer.
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Post#98 » by Flip Murray » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:59 am

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Was watching a bit of the Miami-Cleveland game. Winslow was playing nice D on Lebron.


i actually thought he was getting sonned when I was watching
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Post#99 » by Flip Murray » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:00 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:you guys are way higher on Orlando than I am. Hezonja/Dipo/Vuc is a very nice trio to build around, but nobody else fits. Gordon will be Tyrus Thomas all over again, Payton is a mess, and Harris is an empty-stats kind of player to me. If I'm Orlando, I clear those guys off, and find a sucker that gives me a great shooter and a good pick for all three of them, tank for Ben Simmons, and offer Mike Conley a full max deal next summer.


Payton is far from a mess. Have you watched him yet this year? I actually think he's looked very good. Now the fit is a different story
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Post#100 » by fatlever » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:08 am

I finally had a chance to see the highlights of the Magic/Thunder game. WOW. So many huge 3s.

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