Gettin' Lit in my Pilot: The Montrezl Harrell Thread

[HornetJail]

I'd love to know which halfway serviceable PG on the buyout market doesn't fit that archetype. Michael Carter-Williams was cut today but I'll slap the **** out of anybody who suggests that we sign him

Sit tight and see who shakes loose.

There's rumblings of guys like Bledsoe or Schroder becoming available.

Schroeder arguably matches that "homeless man's Terry" archetype more than Kemba, but a substantially worse shooter. I would understand Bledsoe for his defense, even if I don't particularly like it.

It would be mildly funny if Terry and Bledsoe ended up on the same team after the little back and forth they had in the playoffs a few years ago

[luciano-davidwesley]

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The second rounder is from Boston conveying in the next two years so likely a late second.

[SWedd523]

Sign Dellavedova or Exum so we can have an Australian on the team.

Hey that's actually a really good idea. Why hasn't somebody mentioned Exum before?

[Bassman]

So at least it was SOMETHING, and a value deal to boot. I like Harrell but suspect he only helps incrementally. He will help win us some games, but seriously doubt he remains into next year. Like the toughness and hope it rubs off, but he’s not going to suddenly become Yoda for the children. His size and limited defense just aren’t the best fit. This is a guy Mitch has always liked and wanted. I don’t doubt he explored some other possibilities but….doubt too vigorously.

Doubt anyone else really wanted PJ unless we would fire sale him.

Really disappointed we couldn’t get Holmes or even Poeltl.

[luciano-davidwesley]

I wonder if Brad Wanamaker is looking for a job

[JDR720]

Sign Dellavedova or Exum so we can have an Australian on the team.

Hey that's actually a really good idea. Why hasn't somebody mentioned Exum before?

Probably distracted by Ingles being dumped and Simmons and Mills leading the Nets to a championship.

[City of Trees]

Does this mean no Holmes?

How different are Harrell and Holmes, honestly? Harrell has a 7' 4" wing span and 9' 1" standing reach, hustles like a demon and scores efficiently inside and has playoff experience.

Richaun is 6'10 and isn't as undersized but reach and stats are quite the same. However, if you look a little deeper and you'll find Richaun is 200% the better fit with LaMelo

Harrell is a garbage big man. Everything is at the rim. Check out his shot chart


Now look at Holmes


Richaun has a deadly push shot that is almost automatic from the foul line. Not only is it the perfect zone buster, LaMelo can feed Holmes with the pick n pop all day long.

Harrell is a great pick up for you guys. There was time left on the trade deadline clock when i posted, I was genuinely curious what the Harrell transaction meant for any Holmes deal. No shade. No salt.

[amcoolio]

Does this mean no Holmes?

How different are Harrell and Holmes, honestly? Harrell has a 7' 4" wing span and 9' 1" standing reach, hustles like a demon and scores efficiently inside and has playoff experience.

Richaun is 6'10 and isn't as undersized but reach and stats are quite the same. However, if you look a little deeper and you'll find Richaun is 200% the better fit with LaMelo

Harrell is a garbage big man. Everything is at the rim. Check out his shot chart


Now look at Holmes


Richaun has a deadly push shot that is almost automatic from the foul line. Not only is it the perfect zone buster, LaMelo can feed Holmes with the pick n pop all day long.

Harrell is a great pick up for you guys. There was time left on the trade deadline clock when i posted, I was genuinely curious what the Harrell transaction meant for any Holmes deal. No shade. No salt.

All good. I think everyone here wanted Holmes. I agree he would be awesome in this system especially in the PnR with LaMelo. For some reason or another he's destined to be in Sacramento.

[City of Trees]

All good. I think everyone here wanted Holmes. I agree he would be awesome in this system especially in the PnR with LaMelo. For some reason or another he's destined to be in Sacramento.

Off the bench at that! Holmes is a team guy so I know he will be there for his team for the remainder of the season. I bet he gets moved in the off season. Its not fair to Richaun and the Kings would be wise to cash in on his value. No need to pay that amount of money to Sabonis' back up when the roster has holes at other positions.

[JDR720]

I think it's fairly safe to assume we never actually wanted Holmes. Didn't make an offer in FA. Didn't make an effort to trade for him either.

Meanwhile, we did try to sign Montrezl a couple years ago. And we did end up trading for him.

[Bassman]

Mitch is just the kind of guy who gets a boner for a player and never stops with the fascination. NO QUESTION that Holmes is the better player, better fit, better solution to what we need. But at night Mitch looks at pictures of just those players he loves…and dreams that “some day…you’ll be mine”.

[yosemiteben]

Last two posts seem like bizarre takes to me. There's been as many reports about us pursuing Holmes as there were about Harrell. I highly doubt that Holmes would have been as cheap, and totally defensible IMO to go with the guy with similar stats and skillset but on the shorter deal to get bird rights, particularly where neither option provides the rim protection we've said we want.

[MasterIchiro]

Does this mean no Holmes?

How different are Harrell and Holmes, honestly? Harrell has a 7' 4" wing span and 9' 1" standing reach, hustles like a demon and scores efficiently inside and has playoff experience.

Richaun is 6'10 and isn't as undersized but reach and stats are quite the same. However, if you look a little deeper and you'll find Richaun is 200% the better fit with LaMelo

Harrell is a garbage big man. Everything is at the rim. Check out his shot chart


Now look at Holmes


Richaun has a deadly push shot that is almost automatic from the foul line. Not only is it the perfect zone buster, LaMelo can feed Holmes with the pick n pop all day long.

Harrell is a great pick up for you guys. There was time left on the trade deadline clock when i posted, I was genuinely curious what the Harrell transaction meant for any Holmes deal. No shade. No salt.

Thank you for your insightful feedback here. I actually love Holmes and advocated for him last season. I get stuck on players if they fit our style and system and Holmes feels like a perfect fit.

That said, he shares the same strengths and limitations as Harrell. Neither moves the needle on defense so I doubt Hornets wanted to pay a premium for the added bonus of Holmes' midrange efficiency. We have Hayward taking those foul line jumpers and baseline post-ups. While I see the value of adding this component of Holmes' game, I would not subtract PJ's three point spacing. LaMelo benefits from the spacing, as would Fox. Taken together, I'd take PJ + Harrell over Holmes any day and the only rationale I can think of for paying a premium for Holmes would be defense. But like I said, neither Holmes nor Harrell move the needle there. This is why I think Kupchak was in on Poetl and willing to make PJ a centerpiece. He would pay the premium over Harrell if the target moves the needle on defense. Ultimately he balked when the Spurs tried to poach Kai Jones. Poetl - Kai Jones - JT Thor would make one of the more dynamic center committees in the game. So I'm rooting for the Pelicans to make the playoffs. I'd deal PJ plus a Pelicans first for him. I think it's a compelling offer. I also don't think we had the space under the tax to pay Holmes with a trade kicker. I'm not sure how those rules work but prefer flexibility.

[KembaWalker]

I don't think on court ability was the end all be all to Mitch's decision here. We are going into a painful off-season with Miles in RFA and he's going to need all the flexibility he can get

[LofJ]

From the reports that were put out there the team was obviously interested in trading for Turner. When he hurt his foot and the Pacers ended up trading Sabonis they pivoted to Poeltl, but didn't want to pay the price that the Spurs demanded. So they pivoted again and grabbed Harrell for spare parts. He isn't the long-term answer, but the team knows that. If and when we finally do find that guy, I think Harrell will be a great change of pace guy off the bench. We also desperately need the toughness that he brings.

Kupchak is going to try again to make a move for Poeltl or Turner in the summer.

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[Marino]

I do think that if Harrell plays well that Mitch will try to re-sign him in the offseason,

[JMAC3]

Resign Miles first and foremost, try to resign Martin on something short and sweet.

Throw some MLE money to Harrell if it works out.

You still have picks, contracts of Oubre and Plumlee to try to make a trade work for another center.

Overall I feel good where we are, we get another 6 months to evaluate Kai and Bouk and are less likely to make a deal we regret.

[BigSlam]

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[JDR720]

Terry and Montrezl at Louisville.