Rhymes with Nintendo - The Gerald Henderson Thread

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #801 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:38 pm

Lamb is in no way worth any of the picks the Bobcats currently have.

KembaWalker · Post #802 » by **KembaWalker** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:39 pm

I certainly don't think it would be a good move but I wouldn't freak out if we went with Monta over Henderson. Kemba/Monta/MKG/Zeller/Jefferson is potentially an offensive juggernaut. the elite efficiency isn't there but you'd have to hope that playing all off each other would bring everyone up in that regard. defense is very suspect but most of defense is system based im convinced

mrknowitall215 · Post #803 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:45 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Lamb is in no way worth any of the picks the Bobcats currently have.

Definitely not the Detroit pick, but I think he's worth the Portland pick. Jeremy Lamb has been looking impressive in summer league. If a Henderson + POR 1st rounder for Lamb deal was on the table, I think OKC says "no" first

MasterIchiro · Post #804 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:49 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Lamb is in no way worth any of the picks the Bobcats currently have.

Definitely not the Detroit pick, but I think he's worth the Portland pick. Jeremy Lamb has been looking impressive in summer league. If a Henderson + POR 1st rounder for Lamb deal was on the table, I think OKC says "no" first

What if Cho were to expand the deal to include Sessions. I think Hendo and Sessions are both great fits in OKC and Lamb is a bit of a project for a win-now team with title hopes.

countryboi · Post #805 » by **countryboi** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:51 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Lamb is in no way worth any of the picks the Bobcats currently have.

Definitely not the Detroit pick, but I think he's worth the Portland pick. Jeremy Lamb has been looking impressive in summer league. If a Henderson + POR 1st rounder for Lamb deal was on the table, I think OKC says "no" first

the summer league is not the NBA. you guys toss around the portland pick in trades way to easily and lamb is a very boarderline scrub.

mrknowitall215 · Post #806 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:51 pm

...the Bobcats’ first preference is still to keep Henderson, but that other options should at least be explored.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... tions.html

mrknowitall215 · Post #807 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:54 pm

countryboi wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Lamb is in no way worth any of the picks the Bobcats currently have.

Definitely not the Detroit pick, but I think he's worth the Portland pick. Jeremy Lamb has been looking impressive in summer league. If a Henderson + POR 1st rounder for Lamb deal was on the table, I think OKC says "no" first

the summer league is not the NBA. you guys toss around the portland pick in trades way to easily and lamb is a very boarderline scrub.

Lamb is in no way a "very borderline scrub". He has a effortless stroke from 3-point range, the ability to put the ball on the floor as a secondary ball handler, and the potential to be an elite defender with his length & athleticism

SWedd523 · Post #808 » by **SWedd523** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:54 pm

countryboi wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Lamb is in no way worth any of the picks the Bobcats currently have.

Definitely not the Detroit pick, but I think he's worth the Portland pick. Jeremy Lamb has been looking impressive in summer league. If a Henderson + POR 1st rounder for Lamb deal was on the table, I think OKC says "no" first

the summer league is not the NBA. you guys toss around the portland pick in trades way to easily and lamb is a very boarderline scrub.

Very interested to hear your reasoning for why a 21 year old who didn't get minutes his rookie year because he was on a stacked team is a very borderline scrub

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #809 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:56 pm

Spoiler:

Edit - BAH! Missed the trade exception thing. That could work for a Hendo trade ... but I would still be a bit suprised if they did it.

countryboi · Post #810 » by **countryboi** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:59 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
countryboi wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Definitely not the Detroit pick, but I think he's worth the Portland pick. Jeremy Lamb has been looking impressive in summer league. If a Henderson + POR 1st rounder for Lamb deal was on the table, I think OKC says "no" first

the summer league is not the NBA. you guys toss around the portland pick in trades way to easily and lamb is a very boarderline scrub.

Very interested to hear your reasoning for why a 21 year old who didn't get minutes his rookie year because he was on a stacked team is a very borderline scrub

Lamb has done nothing in his league and everyone on his board goes around like this kid is a future star. all i have ever see from him is bench riding and beasting against future d-leaguers. if anything OKC should be giving us a pick back.

Post #811 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:08 pm

random s&t idea for hendo to the hawks

hendo for jenkins

BlackOutBuzz · Post #812 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:11 pm

doc.end wrote:
BlackOutBobcat wrote:Also...

Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell 1h
Cody Zeller signs his rookie contract with the Bobcats.

Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell 1h
Jefferson signing done.

Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell 58m
Also official Bobcats have amnestied Tyrus Thomas.

HOOPSWORLD ‏@HOOPSWORLD 8h
NBA Salary Cap $58.679 Million for 2013-14

Cap is about $600k higher then expected, not much but noteworthy. Also noteworthy is that there's no mention of a McBob signing yet - probably because it looks like we simply can't with Hendo's cap hold (and based on my numbers, releasing Adrien wouldn't help that). I've got us at about $1.6m under the cap with Hendo's cap hold and McBob's deal outstanding, so we'd need Hendo to take a little under $6.7m his first year (not per year, first year can be lower) in order to officially sign McBob. Don't see any way we give Ellis anything close to what he wants (barring S&T).

McRoberts' cap hold is bigger than his new salary, there is no tiem to wait really, if we are using bird rights exception on him.

Yeah, but if we still hadn't renounced him then we couldn't have signed Big Al and Big Handsome while keeping the Big Holdout restricted. McBob's bird rights aren't necessary to re-sign him since he's agreed to an amount smaller than the cap hold.

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mrknowitall215 · Post #813 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:15 pm

fatlever wrote:random s&t idea for hendo to the hawks

hendo for jenkins

I like Jenkins, but no. I wouldn't do that unless Atlanta attached either their own 2014 1st rounder or the Brooklyn 1st rounder they own

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #814 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:25 pm

It's still very likely that Hendo signs the qualifying offer. I don't think that we need to get ahead of ourselves inventing trades.

I suspect that the team will look for a long term answer to SG, be it Hendo or someone else, next year.

The only way I see it playing out differently is if someone offers Hendo something this year (unlikely) or there is a sign & trade (and I'm just not seeing a good one out there now).

catch20two · Post #815 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:26 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
...the Bobcats’ first preference is still to keep Henderson, but that other options should at least be explored.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... tions.html

Good to hear that S&T'ing Hendo is an afterthought if a deal can't be done. Typical Cho just covering all his bases. I hope MJ fire Higgins though.

Post #816 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:28 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
fatlever wrote:random s&t idea for hendo to the hawks

hendo for jenkins

I like Jenkins, but no. I wouldn't do that unless Atlanta attached either their own 2014 1st rounder or the Brooklyn 1st rounder they own

teams usually dont get back equal value in a s&t scenario. getting equal value for hendo in a s&t is very doubtful. many times teams only get a trade exception or a 2nd round pick or two in return. jenkins would be solid value considering the circumstances.

catch20two · Post #817 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:29 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:It's still very likely that Hendo signs the qualifying offer. I don't think that we need to get ahead of ourselves inventing trades.

I suspect that the team will look for a long term answer to SG, be it Hendo or someone else, next year.

The only way I see it playing out differently is if someone offers Hendo something this year (unlikely) or there is a sign & trade (and I'm just not seeing a good one out there now).

My thoughts exactly. No team want Hendo more than us at this moment and I don't think he wants to leave yet.

catch20two · Post #818 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:31 pm

fatlever wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
fatlever wrote:random s&t idea for hendo to the hawks

hendo for jenkins

I like Jenkins, but no. I wouldn't do that unless Atlanta attached either their own 2014 1st rounder or the Brooklyn 1st rounder they own

teams usually dont get back equal value in a s&t scenario. getting equal value for hendo in a s&t is very doubtful. many times teams only get a trade exception or a 2nd round pick or two in return. jenkins would be solid value considering the circumstances.

Hendo is a restricted free agent. We have control on whether we want him to go to another team or not. The Hawks would have to give us more than John Jenkins for Hendo. That Nets 1st rounder would be appropriate.

Liver_Pooty · Post #819 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:37 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
countryboi wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Definitely not the Detroit pick, but I think he's worth the Portland pick. Jeremy Lamb has been looking impressive in summer league. If a Henderson + POR 1st rounder for Lamb deal was on the table, I think OKC says "no" first

the summer league is not the NBA. you guys toss around the portland pick in trades way to easily and lamb is a very boarderline scrub.

Lamb is in no way a "very borderline scrub". He has a effortless stroke from 3-point range, the ability to put the ball on the floor as a secondary ball handler, and the potential to be an elite defender with his length & athleticism

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...And he's done none if those in the NBA. Trading Henderson plus a first for a guy who has hardly played in the league would be ridiculous.

mrknowitall215 · Post #820 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:45 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
countryboi wrote:
the summer league is not the NBA. you guys toss around the portland pick in trades way to easily and lamb is a very boarderline scrub.

Lamb is in no way a "very borderline scrub". He has a effortless stroke from 3-point range, the ability to put the ball on the floor as a secondary ball handler, and the potential to be an elite defender with his length & athleticism

.

...And he's done none if those in the NBA. Trading Henderson plus a first for a guy who has hardly played in the league would be ridiculous.

I agree, but it's the only way OKC would budge, and it beats a S&T for Monta Ellis