NBA ChoK16 - the Rich Cho Thread

BeesWax · Post #801 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:05 am

He was doing so well then he caved and screwed it all up. Such a shame that pressure from people who don't never stand messed his plan up. Should have fired the root cause and waive Clifford bye at the end of the season.

Post #802 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:09 am

Either he's wrong about Vonleh and it's a mistake, or he's right about Vonleh and he traded him for excellent value.

You read stuff like this...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/613860169903173633[/tweet]

...and then you wonder if that's exactly what the FO is worried about.

Hard to get too worked up about it now. Time will tell.

Post #803 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:11 am

yosemiteben wrote:Either he's wrong about Vonleh and it's a mistake, or he's right about Vonleh and he traded him for excellent value.

You read stuff like this...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/613860169903173633[/tweet]

...and then you wonder if that's exactly what the FO is worried about.

Hard to get too worked up about it now. Time will tell.

BigSlam wrote:I loved his aggression and attack as well as his perceived upside, but I did always wonder about his BBIQ. I know he is super young but I always thought he looked kind of lost out there (when he was out there).

Liver_Pooty · Post #804 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:16 am

BigSlam was right on the money. You can be physically gifted all you want, but if don't have it between the ears that means nothing.

Kind of weird for him to have a hard time picking up on plays though. It isn't as if we run some sort of incredibly difficult schemes.

BeesWax · Post #805 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:19 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:BigSlam was right on the money. You can be physically gifted all you want, but if don't have it between the ears that means nothing.

Kind of weird for him to have a hard time picking up on plays though. It isn't as if we run some sort of incredibly difficult schemes.

No but we run plenty that make no sense.

catch20two · Post #806 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:19 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
catch20two wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Sorenson mentions Cho's pu pu platter in this passage

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/tom-sorensen/article25417390.html

His pu pu platter just turned into 4 wings and shrimp fried rice with these trades.

Shrimp fried rice is my favorite. I mastered a homemade recipe using beef lard and local fresh shrimp.

Cho is not so puckered up all of a sudden. He's being aggressive and that's got these slow-moving hillbilly (just teasing guys) folks all flustered. Oh and I think the Lamb trade made Sik Infant's head explode. He was giddy about moving Kemba this summer or Batman.

I had shrimp fried rice for lunch today. They prefer okra.

MKGsMotor · Post #807 » by **MKGsMotor** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:26 am

Petition to rename the thread NBA Cho-K15

DY_nasty · Post #808 » by **DY_nasty** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:47 am

How the hell do you get mad at a 19 year old for not picking up the game right away? WTF

Liver_Pooty · Post #809 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:49 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/613885962620416000[/tweet]

Liver_Pooty · Post #810 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:50 am

Not going to lie, Im pretty excited for tomorrow.

catch20two · Post #811 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:52 am

Not mad at Cho for trading one of Zeller or Vonleh because it had to happen as I kept saying for the past year but I was hoping it wasn't Vonleh before we seen what we had from him in extensive minutes because I thought his skill sets gave him a much higher ceiling than Zeller with the right development.

Post #812 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:53 am

I asked for drama. Cho delivered.

catch20two · Post #813 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:54 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/613885962620416000[/tweet]

Yes! Who's somebody else I've been advocating for us to trade for. He brought in MoWill. He brought in Lamb. I'm gonna throw another name in the trade thread that I want and see if he obeys my command.

Liver_Pooty · Post #814 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:54 am

yosemiteben wrote:I asked for drama. Cho delivered.

You don't like the trade do you

BeesWax · Post #815 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:55 am

After the mistakes I am dreading tomorrow night. Glad I will be at a bar.

catch20two · Post #816 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:55 am

Bring back CDR but that's easy. Not something that should be considered until around August.

catch20two · Post #817 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:56 am

Draft Oubre, Kaminsky, or Turner! Do it Cho, do it!

catch20two · Post #818 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:58 am

Not opposed to Booker anymore either. Draft Booker, Oubre, Kaminsky, or Turner. Skip WCS, Stanley, or Winslow if they fall.

Post #819 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:02 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I asked for drama. Cho delivered.

You don't like the trade do you

I think short term it definitely makes us better. I guess I just have to start cheering for Vonleh to never develop to vindicate Cho.

I mean, I don't know how many guys we needed on our roster ages 22 or below, but we have a lot. I'm not that worried about losing one that I think was at least a couple years from being a reliable part of our rotation. We've been down this road before with Biz.

I'm mildly concerned about Batum being a free agent, but we have tons of cap space anyway. If he likes our team, Clifford, and our FO and buys in to what we have going on, signing him in the offseason would be huge and would go a long way toward vindicating this decision. Obviously if he hits FA and leaves Charlotte than it'll be a tough pill to swallow.

I think it's a good thing. This franchise needed a bit of a shakeup and we still have tons of young talent.

I will say that I don't think Vonleh sat all season, to the point that Max was playing extended minutes over him, for no reason. MKG saw minutes last year. Zeller saw minutes as a rookie. PJ was in the rotation over Hendo as a rookie. I don't buy the Cliff doesn't play young guys at all line. Spot minutes here and there maybe, but not at all? Sounds like Cliff thought Vonleh just didn't have a grasp of the game.

MasterIchiro · Post #820 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:08 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/613885962620416000[/tweet]

Yes! Who's somebody else I've been advocating for us to trade for. He brought in MoWill. He brought in Lamb. I'm gonna throw another name in the trade thread that I want and see if he obeys my command.

Makes me think there's a buzz around pick 9 with WCS falling

We can include pick 39, PJ and/or future picks to get to 6 and draft Hezonja