The Nik Stauskas Thread

MasterIchiro · Post #821 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:54 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
No, I think they're destined to add a combo guard in Gary Harris or Elfrid Payton regardless, and that they'd take Doug McDermott if they choose to go with wing shooting. I don't even think Stauskas is in the deck of cards anymore unless the aforementioned prospects are gone

Why do you believe they are looking to upgrade Henderson with a combo guard after they just tried to upgrade Henderson with Afflalo? Afflalo is not a combo guard. He is more like Stauskas.

I think they are looking to upgrade Kemba and/or Henderson, and see him (Kemba) as a possible trade chip down the line pending his extension negotiations. Higgins isn't in office now, so it's Cho's free reign to build the team as he like

I don't think they're looking to move Kemba anytime soon. He's a winner and a leader. He's a high character guy who works his tail off.

I think the obsession with upgrading Henderson rather than MKG indicates McDermott is out of the picture.

mrknowitall215 · Post #822 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:58 pm

jdm3 wrote:Cho was here when we took Kemba and I think if there was an argument wasn't it MJ who wanted Kemba so badly?

I think Kemba kind of fell into Cho's lap, and Jordan liked him, but if Brandon Knight was available, he would've been the pick instead of Kemba. That's just my personal belief. Don't ask if you don't like my answer/opinion

mrknowitall215 · Post #823 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:00 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I don't think they're looking to move Kemba anytime soon. He's a winner and a leader. He's a high character guy who works his tail off.

I think the obsession with upgrading Henderson rather than MKG indicates McDermott is out of the picture.

I found comfort in your belief when Higgins was in office, since he spoke highly of Kemba during interviews, but I'm a little uncertain of Cho's direction now that he's Han 'Solo'. The fact that he's been linked to Gary Harris and Elfrid Payton as much make me raise a eyebrow

BeesWax · Post #824 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:01 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:Cho was here when we took Kemba and I think if there was an argument wasn't it MJ who wanted Kemba so badly?

I think Kemba kind of fell into Cho's lap, and Jordan liked him, but if Brandon Knight was available, he would've been the pick instead of Kemba. That's just my personal belief. Don't ask if you don't like my answer/opinion

No big deal I just thought Cho was here and had a hand in the choice.

Hey go look at Ray Allen's college stats and compare to Stauskas. Not trying to say they are the same but it does give a little more hope here.

Post #825 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:05 pm

Would be pretty amusing to see all this argument go to waste and us pick Gordon instead.

mrknowitall215 · Post #826 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:09 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Would be pretty amusing to see all this argument go to waste and us pick Gordon instead.

Trust and believe, I hope I'm wrong. What will be amusing to you will be a relief to me. Charlotte drafting Aaron Gordon at #9, and then doubling down by trading Cody Zeller + #24 to try to get back in the lottery or just move up enough to take a viable wing shooter would be a solid draft to me

BeesWax · Post #827 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:15 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Would be pretty amusing to see all this argument go to waste and us pick Gordon instead.

Trust and believe, I hope I'm wrong. What will be amusing to you will be a relief to me. Charlotte drafting Aaron Gordon at #9, and then doubling down by trading Cody Zeller + #24 to try to get back in the lottery or just move up enough to take a viable wing shooter would be a solid draft to me

I am not a Gordon fan but if we did this I could get on board. Would depend on the player we get and how high we get into the lottery.

mrknowitall215 · Post #828 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:18 pm

jdm3 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Would be pretty amusing to see all this argument go to waste and us pick Gordon instead.

Trust and believe, I hope I'm wrong. What will be amusing to you will be a relief to me. Charlotte drafting Aaron Gordon at #9, and then doubling down by trading Cody Zeller + #24 to try to get back in the lottery or just move up enough to take a viable wing shooter would be a solid draft to me

I am not a Gordon fan but if we did this I could get on board. Would depend on the player we get and how high we get into the lottery.

I'm far from a Gordon fan as well, but I think he has a better chance of transforming into a 'stretch 4' than Zeller, and he's a solid defender that could help Jefferson protect the rim some. Gordon might not ever be a legit 'stretch 4' but I could see him being a Josh Smith clone, whereas he's inefficient from range but capable

BeesWax · Post #829 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:23 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Trust and believe, I hope I'm wrong. What will be amusing to you will be a relief to me. Charlotte drafting Aaron Gordon at #9, and then doubling down by trading Cody Zeller + #24 to try to get back in the lottery or just move up enough to take a viable wing shooter would be a solid draft to me

I am not a Gordon fan but if we did this I could get on board. Would depend on the player we get and how high we get into the lottery.

I'm far from a Gordon fan as well, but I think he has a better chance of transforming into a 'stretch 4' than Zeller, and he's a solid defender that could help Jefferson protect the rim some. Gordon might not ever be a legit 'stretch 4' but I could see him being a Josh Smith clone, whereas he's inefficient from range but capable

I could see that but it would be nice if he could be Smith with a brain.

catch20two · Post #830 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:30 pm

Don't want.

W_HAMILTON · Post #831 » by **W_HAMILTON** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:57 am

mrknowitall215 · Post #832 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:59 am

I hate to say it, but, Stauskas will probably become Jacobsen in Sacramento. Remember Jimmer?

thesneakysneak · Post #833 » by **thesneakysneak** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:03 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:I hate to say it, but, Stauskas will probably become Jacobsen in Sacramento. Remember Jimmer?

Nik doesn't deserve to go to the kings.
On paper they look amazing though.

mrknowitall215 · Post #834 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:07 am

thesneakysneak wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:I hate to say it, but, Stauskas will probably become Jacobsen in Sacramento. Remember Jimmer?

Nik doesn't deserve to go to the kings.
On paper they look amazing though.

If he's as good as I've been told, he should be able to revitalize that team with his elite shooting and passing skills

thesneakysneak · Post #835 » by **thesneakysneak** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:11 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
thesneakysneak wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:I hate to say it, but, Stauskas will probably become Jacobsen in Sacramento. Remember Jimmer?

Nik doesn't deserve to go to the kings.
On paper they look amazing though.

If he's as good as I've been told, he should be able to revitalize that team with his elite shooting and passing skills

That might be hard to do with so many ball dominant players on that roster.
He's too Canadian, aka nice for that team. Every time Gay and McLemore brick a shot will Nik say 'sorry' from the bench?

mrknowitall215 · Post #836 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:32 am

thesneakysneak wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
thesneakysneak wrote:Nik doesn't deserve to go to the kings.
On paper they look amazing though.

If he's as good as I've been told, he should be able to revitalize that team with his elite shooting and passing skills

That might be hard to do with so many ball dominant players on that roster.
He's too Canadian, aka nice for that team. Every time Gay and McLemore brick a shot will Nik say 'sorry' from the bench?

I thought Marcus Smart would've been a good pick for the Kings to try to bring some order to that roster, although I like the fact that he was taken by the Celtics. The Kings need somebody tough enough to stand up to DeMarcus Cousins' nonsense, and Smart would've been that guy. Like you've stated, I think Cousins' will put Stauskas in a shell

I like Stauskas more than I liked McLemore. Maybe he can take McLemore's dull shine though

Eoghan · Post #837 » by **Eoghan** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:45 am

Nik ain't going to touch the ball with Gay and Thomas there.

mrknowitall215 · Post #838 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:52 am

BrotherDave wrote:Nik ain't going to touch the ball with Gay and Thomas there.

Wasn't going to touch it much with Kemba, McRoberts, and Jefferson here either. That's why I had a concern for how productive he could be off-the-ball

amcoolio · Post #839 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:56 am

I don't get why Boston didn't just trade Rondo for the 8 and take Vonleh. Smart Vonleh Young would have been a great draft and franchise recharge.

McLemore is a bust though, I wouldn't trade Zeller for him straight up. That was three straight top 10 lottery busts in less than a year each for Sacramento, yet they don't get any scrutiny.

mrknowitall215 · Post #840 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:00 am

amcoolio wrote:I don't get why Boston didn't just trade Rondo for the 8 and take Vonleh. Smart Vonleh Young would have been a great draft and franchise recharge.

McLemore is a bust though, I wouldn't trade Zeller for him straight up. That was three straight top 10 lottery busts in less than a year each for Sacramento, yet they don't get any scrutiny.

My guess is that they'll save the Rondo trade chip for a bigger fish/more proven commodity to add to the upside and potential of Smart & Young. The Celtics made out like bandits in this draft if you ask me. They have a bright future that could get even brighter pending what they can get out of trading Rondo & Jeff Green moving forward