BlackOutBuzz wrote:Noah just seems like a prototypical 4 to me, but that's obviously not the consensus as posters have said he may be better suited for the 3 and 5 on this page alone. Vonleh has already shown a greater willingness to take 3s than our starting 2-4, but with his size and post ability I don't know if I like him as a full-time wing (not anymore anyway, as was mentioned he was once a top wing prospect behind Wiggins and Parker).
Zeller can hit the occasional mid-range shot, but I fear he may have Hendo's disease and that may be about the extent of his range. He has short arms, but he's tall and athletic enough to make up for that IMO. Plus he's at his best as a scrapper, not out on the perimeter. Like I said, I think he needs to add some more size but I think it's possible he moves to the 5 full-time EVENTUALLY.
But hey, even if I do have the positions backwards, I'll be thrilled if these two become a dominant post duo.
Excellent analysis and I most definitely can see your point.
Here is some of my own about Vonleh being more likely to be a 5 than Zeller, I said when Vonleh was drafted it wouldn't surprise me if he is in fact a 5 long term.
Vonleh at 6'10, is a 247 pound man child with a wing span of 7'4, this is great size for a C in this current evolution of the league imo.
He has girth in his trunk and lower body that will help him establish position in the post and keep his center of gravity when fighting the trees down low.
Vonleh has also shown a tough streak which we have yet to see with Cody imo, obviously Noah hasn't got to play much but it is clear that he doesn't mind a bit of the rough stuff when given the opportunities.
Cody despite being a true 7 footer only has a wingspan suited for PF, his lack of strength also hinders him to an extent, but this is not as evident against PF's, where his athleticism and size more than make up for his deficiencies in the strength column, hopefully as Cody keeps hitting the gym he'll improve in this area.
I believe by putting Cody at the 5, we'll take away his strengths both offensively and defensively, offensively he is good at taking players off the dribble from the elbow and defensively he is an excellent perimeter defender for a 4 and both of these become rather moot if he is under the basket on both sides of the court.
Vonleh's range is actually an advantage at C where his jumper can create space for MKG and Zeller to operate off cuts and have space at the rim.
He is a rim protector also, which is a must for a 5 in today's league imo.