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Post#861 » by catch20two » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:21 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:That's not true. Both Mike and Kobe have over 5000 career assists and are top 50 all time in that category. If the two best shooting guards of all time both passed the ball all two guards should be able to do so.


You might have misconstrued my statement. What I'm saying is that we need an aggressive scorer on our team. Being an aggressive scorer doesn't take away from the possibility of being a playmaker like both MJ and Kobe were. Being an aggressive scorer will force defenses to play honest to the point where they'd have to focus their attention on that said player and in theory should open up opportunities for the rest of the offense to flourish.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#862 » by Eoghan » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:28 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:Shabazz tends to kill the ball movement and get his shots off rather then passing the ball around to look for a better shot.

I couldn't disagree with this more.


Well if it were up to you we would have Royce White instead of MKG. So no offense, I don't really care.

On topic, if you actually watch UCLA play you'll see Bazz pass the ball around to look for a better shot a lot and not kill ball movement. He plays basically the same role in the offense as McLemore, the only difference is that Kansas is much better and less dependent on Bazz to score. It's not like BMc has displayed any iso skills either.

Off topic, you are correct. I would have traded down with someone and taken some combination of Drummond, White, J. Lamb, Meyers Leonard, and Damian Lillard, depending on the options. It was a deep draft and we should have walked away with 2-3 good assets instead of just blowing our wad on a decent player with terrible offense that plays a dime-a-dozen position and Jeff Taylor. I doubt we'd have the same problems with Royce that Houston is b/c A) he'd play regular minutes and B) MJ as a former player would more easily address Royce's medical concerns better than basketball execs that have no medical or basketball playing experience.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#863 » by Kembastockton » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:35 pm

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MountBiyombo wrote:That's not true. Both Mike and Kobe have over 5000 career assists and are top 50 all time in that category. If the two best shooting guards of all time both passed the ball all two guards should be able to do so.


You might have misconstrued my statement. What I'm saying is that we need an aggressive scorer on our team. Being an aggressive scorer doesn't take away from the possibility of being a playmaker like both MJ and Kobe were. Being an aggressive scorer will force defenses to play honest to the point where they'd have to focus their attention on that said player and in theory should open up opportunities for the rest of the offense to flourish.


Gotcha!

On topic, if you actually watch UCLA play you'll see Bazz pass the ball around to look for a better shot a lot and not kill ball movement. He plays basically the same role in the offense as McLemore, the only difference is that Kansas is much better and less dependent on Bazz to score. It's not like BMc has displayed any iso skills either.


Actually he has. It is consensus that Ben is one of the quickest guards in the NCAA both with and without the ball. When he goes to the basket very few can stay in front of him. He is just very good at playing within the offense and getting his points within the flow of the game. This is the reason I believe that he would be such a great compliment to Kemba.
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Post#864 » by penquin11 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:40 pm

17.9 ppg 7apg 1.8 to, those are some ridiculously solid numbers from Trey Burke. I know im not the first member to mention him, but for a college PG- thats great. He also has some 49% FG rating.... Just wow, he is flying way under the radar right now.

Also having watched some of Ben's highlights I must say I am very impressed with his jumpshot, his release is just sooo quick. Honestly I feel like I'm watching a more efficient Dwayne Wade, he is worthy of the #1 pick.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#865 » by catch20two » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:44 pm

penquin11 wrote:17.9 ppg 7apg 1.8 to, those are some ridiculously solid numbers from Trey Burke. I know im not the first member to mention him, but for a college PG- thats great. He also has some 49% FG rating.... Just wow, he is flying way under the radar right now.

Trizzy has been my favorite college PG since his freshman year. He could make a decent backup PG in the league, maybe even a starter but today's NBA value size and potential more than production.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#866 » by penquin11 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:49 pm

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penquin11 wrote:17.9 ppg 7apg 1.8 to, those are some ridiculously solid numbers from Trey Burke. I know im not the first member to mention him, but for a college PG- thats great. He also has some 49% FG rating.... Just wow, he is flying way under the radar right now.

Trizzy has been my favorite college PG since his freshman year. He could make a decent backup PG in the league, maybe even a starter but today's NBA value size and potential more than production.


I thought he was like 6'2? Even if he isn't Ty Lawson is a midget, all that matters is shooting ability and speed.... CP3 isn't exactly Mr. Super Athlete, yet he is the best PG in the league.
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Post#867 » by catch20two » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:56 pm

Trizzy is 6'0" being modest. I'm not one of those people that despise players that aren't over 6'4" either. I think Burke could be a great PG in the NBA. He wouldn't be a ideal fit for us though unless his stock drop to the 2nd round and we get our pick back from the OKC.
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Post#868 » by ThatDude23 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:19 pm

Wow! Kansas' jerseys are my favorite NCAA jerseys. :o

They were wearing these:
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Post#869 » by SWedd523 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:47 pm

I've been talking Trey Burke up to Slam for years now. He and Tim Hardaway Jr have been among my favorite players for the past few years. It's a shame (kinda) we don't have a need for him because I'd love to have him on the roster.

And Mount Biyombo, while Kansas typically does have some nice clean jerseys, they were in some all blue monstrosity that looked like a ripoff of those horrible NBA Christmas ones
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Post#870 » by Eoghan » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:58 pm

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Actually he has. It is consensus that Ben is one of the quickest guards in the NCAA both with and without the ball. When he goes to the basket very few can stay in front of him. He is just very good at playing within the offense and getting his points within the flow of the game. This is the reason I believe that he would be such a great compliment to Kemba.

I didn't say he wasn't quick. I've yet to see him successfully beat his man off the dribble using any sort of crossover, jab step, what have you. The only time I see him beat his man is if he receives a pass and simply drives past b/c his defender is running out to guard him and can't stop his momentum, that's something someone as slow as Matt Bonner can do. Bazz and BMc play practically the same way, they move without the ball and spot up in the corners. Bazz posts up a bit more and BMc slashes a bit more. The only difference is that BMc can be more efficient b/c Kansas is a much more organized and disciplined team. It seems like he has better handles than say Hendo but I can't say for sure b/c he primarily scores from spot up treys/Js, fastbreaks, and the occasional alley-oop or running floater. What I know he has is a very good looking jumper including a step-back, range, hops, floaters, floor vision and the ability to play within the flow of the offense.

For the record those Kansas jerseys were hideous! They looked like practice jerseys turned inside out and they might as well have been wearing no numbers or names b/c you couldn't read them.
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Post#871 » by TheKingofSting » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:58 pm

What do you all think of Le'Bryan Nash?
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Post#872 » by HornetJail » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:09 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:What do you all think of Le'Bryan Nash?

I was hoping he'd be in last year's draft so we could pick him 31st (I do prefer Taylor though), but let me say that he's no Bryant, he's no Nash, and sure as hell isn't Lebron.
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Post#873 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:19 am

Watching this Kentucky game and Noel does the same thing that Biz does in that he wants to block every shot that they end up giving up far too many offensive rebounds.
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Post#874 » by BlackOutBuzz » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:21 am

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Post#875 » by SWedd523 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:30 am

I hate Kyle Wiltjer. I don't know why, but I just can't stand him.



Anyway, I doubt anybody cares, but my boy PJ Hairston has been stepping his game up in the past couple of weeks for a Carolina team that desperately needs an alpha. He's recently put up 23, 15, 19, and 14 (so far tonight) points.

6'5'' with long arms and a strong body, great athlete, some PG ability, and he's finally showing his long range ability after a Freshman season where he struggled with a ton of injuries. Not necessarily playing like the star I expected him to be, but he still has plenty of time
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Post#876 » by SWedd523 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:38 am

And Archie Goodwin is one of those guys you really want to like. Every time I watch him I just see so much natural ability but he just doesn't have the BBIQ to match his talent, almost like Westbrook if he was even dumber. He'd dominate the pickup/AAU circuit but he struggles when he has to play team ball.

Now of course, he could turn out to be a star and it wouldn't surprise me, but that's an apple I'm not sure I'd be willing to take a bite of
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Post#877 » by fatlever » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:40 am

hairston always looks like an NBA player to me. hopefully he sticks around for another year or two, rather than wasting away in the 2nd round. he needs a year of being the unquestioned go-to guy, then i can see him ending up as mid-first.
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Post#878 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:52 am

fatlever wrote:hairston always looks like an NBA player to me. hopefully he sticks around for another year or two, rather than wasting away in the 2nd round. he needs a year of being the unquestioned go-to guy, then i can see him ending up as mid-first.


I am not sure Hairston will ever be the unquestioned go-to-guy at UNC. I think if he played for another team he would have the ability to put up big numbers like a Maryland or Wake Forrest.
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Post#879 » by SWedd523 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:54 am

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fatlever wrote:hairston always looks like an NBA player to me. hopefully he sticks around for another year or two, rather than wasting away in the 2nd round. he needs a year of being the unquestioned go-to guy, then i can see him ending up as mid-first.


I am not sure Hairston will ever be the unquestioned go-to-guy at UNC. I think if he played for another team he would have the ability to put up big numbers like a Maryland or Wake Forrest.

I often wonder how he'd do if his and Ben McLemore had their roles reversed
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Post#880 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:00 am

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fatlever wrote:hairston always looks like an NBA player to me. hopefully he sticks around for another year or two, rather than wasting away in the 2nd round. he needs a year of being the unquestioned go-to guy, then i can see him ending up as mid-first.


I am not sure Hairston will ever be the unquestioned go-to-guy at UNC. I think if he played for another team he would have the ability to put up big numbers like a Maryland or Wake Forrest.

I often wonder how he'd do if his and Ben McLemore had their roles reversed


Seems like they are in the same kind of role. Do not have to carry offensive load, shot open jumpers and try to win ball games.

When I say in a different role. I think more like seeing him in the role on a team like Mississippi St. like Marshall Henderson who is counted on to take 13-20 shots a night.

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