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JDR720 wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:MasterIchiro wrote::lol:
Funny how so many on this board think this garbage team will be any different next year.
They will have a top 8 pick, and a huge trade chip in Monroe, plus Drummond improving and a new coach and GM.
Why wouldn't they be better?
one thing is for sure they can't get any worse
Liver_Pooty wrote:JDR720 wrote:WOW the Pistons have up what? a 10000 point lead??
They are a sad, sad group of players. Poor Drummond. Can't wait till he leaves that sorry franchise.
TheSamMitchell wrote:Drummond would be lucky if he reached DD or Lowry's level. How is this even a debate?
MasterIchiro wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:MasterIchiro wrote::lol:
Funny how so many on this board think this garbage team will be any different next year.
They will have a top 8 pick, and a huge trade chip in Monroe, plus Drummond improving and a new coach and GM.
Why wouldn't they be better?
Other teams near them have picks and can select comparable players. They will probably end up with Tyler Ennis. And Monroe is not a huge trade chip at all. He is a rental unless they do a sign and trade and he's looking to get paiiid.
A new coach and GM isn't going to change the fact they are killed by chuckers Smith and Jennings and Drummond doesn't play defense.
I'm sick of this panic over the Pistons pick.
I'm totally done talking about it.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
MasterIchiro wrote:JDR720 wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:
They will have a top 8 pick, and a huge trade chip in Monroe, plus Drummond improving and a new coach and GM.
Why wouldn't they be better?
one thing is for sure they can't get any worse
Oh yes they can.
They can be a bottom 5 team.
NMerch wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:JDR720 wrote:WOW the Pistons have up what? a 10000 point lead??
They are a sad, sad group of players. Poor Drummond. Can't wait till he leaves that sorry franchise.
You know what. I'll get banned for this and idc because I love my damn team. But sorry franchise? How many championships, conference titles, division titles and playoff appearances do the bobcats have? You can take our 3 championships, 7 conference titles (6 straight appearances), 9 division titles and put it where the sun doesn't shine. When you have some of those in your franchise, you'll have the right to call a franchise sorry.
NMerch wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:JDR720 wrote:WOW the Pistons have up what? a 10000 point lead??
They are a sad, sad group of players. Poor Drummond. Can't wait till he leaves that sorry franchise.
You know what. I'll get banned for this and idc because I love my damn team. But sorry franchise? How many championships, conference titles, division titles and playoff appearances do the bobcats have? You can take our 3 championships, 7 conference titles (6 straight appearances), 9 division titles and put it where the sun doesn't shine. When you have some of those in your franchise, you'll have the right to call a franchise sorry.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
JDR720 wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:JDR720 wrote:one thing is for sure they can't get any worse
Oh yes they can.
They can be a bottom 5 team.
no way, not with the Celtics, Magic and Utah still tanking and the Bucks and 76ers still going nuclear with the tank
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
MasterIchiro wrote:I'm sick of this panic over the Pistons pick.
NMerch wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:JDR720 wrote:WOW the Pistons have up what? a 10000 point lead??
They are a sad, sad group of players. Poor Drummond. Can't wait till he leaves that sorry franchise.
You know what. I'll get banned for this and idc because I love my damn team. But sorry franchise? How many championships, conference titles, division titles and playoff appearances do the bobcats have? You can take our 3 championships, 7 conference titles (6 straight appearances), 9 division titles and put it where the sun doesn't shine. When you have some of those in your franchise, you'll have the right to call a franchise sorry.
yosemiteben wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:I'm sick of this panic over the Pistons pick.
The fact that you label rational aversion to risk as panic shows who is being dramatic here.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
yosemiteben wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:I'm sick of this panic over the Pistons pick.
The fact that you label rational aversion to risk as panic shows who is being dramatic here.
MasterIchiro wrote:yosemiteben wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:I'm sick of this panic over the Pistons pick.
The fact that you label rational aversion to risk as panic shows who is being dramatic here.
No. I'm definitely confident in how much their team sucks and how difficult it is to change the chemistry with Josh Smith there, Jennings, no trade assets beyond a rental and Tyler Ennis, a player who is no different than the players who will be drafted by all the teams immediately ahead of the Pistons.
Against the weak East, the Pistons sucked this year. The East will be better next year.
MasterIchiro wrote:yosemiteben wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:I'm sick of this panic over the Pistons pick.
The fact that you label rational aversion to risk as panic shows who is being dramatic here.
No. I'm definitely confident in how much their team sucks and how difficult it is to change the chemistry with Josh Smith there, Jennings, no trade assets beyond a rental and Tyler Ennis, a player who is no different than the players who will be drafted by all the teams immediately ahead of the Pistons.
Against the weak East, the Pistons sucked this year. The East will be better next year.
MasterIchiro wrote:The "tanking" Suns are now the 8th seed. The 9th seed Mavs are slotted to pick 14. They are 2 games behind the Blazers. This is the pick I really want to see help our team in the 2014 because we gave up Wallace. And I hate the Blazers for tanking last year even though they only ended up with CJ McCollum. They're going to lose a better player this draft and they deserve it. I want them to lose a Zach LaVine or James Young.
Biz Gilwalker wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:yosemiteben wrote:The fact that you label rational aversion to risk as panic shows who is being dramatic here.
No. I'm definitely confident in how much their team sucks and how difficult it is to change the chemistry with Josh Smith there, Jennings, no trade assets beyond a rental and Tyler Ennis, a player who is no different than the players who will be drafted by all the teams immediately ahead of the Pistons.
Against the weak East, the Pistons sucked this year. The East will be better next year.
i don't think you get it. the rest of the teams between us and them completely suck. atlanta is terrible, cleveland is even worse, new york is dysfunctional and i think melo's got one foot out the door. detroit just needs to fix ONE of a few problems: Jennings is one problem, Smith shooting threes out the ass is one problem, not having a shooting guard is one problem, not having an NBA caliber coach is one problem. They fix ONE of those things, and I think they are the 8th seed. I see no reason to believe otherwise. drummond's ceiling is ridiculous. they're going to have a top 8 pick. they have trade assets. they WILL improve. i don't see how this is hard to understand. detroit isn't going to be a bottom five team even if they stay put.
MasterIchiro wrote:JDR720 wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:
Oh yes they can.
They can be a bottom 5 team.
no way, not with the Celtics, Magic and Utah still tanking and the Bucks and 76ers still going nuclear with the tank
What?
Bucks and Sixers are the only teams clearly worse. Kings, Celtics, Magic and Jazz are on the ups. All those teams will walk away from the draft with better players than the Pistons select. And all of them have ways of improving just as the Pistons can trade Monroe as a rental.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
MasterIchiro wrote:Biz Gilwalker wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:
No. I'm definitely confident in how much their team sucks and how difficult it is to change the chemistry with Josh Smith there, Jennings, no trade assets beyond a rental and Tyler Ennis, a player who is no different than the players who will be drafted by all the teams immediately ahead of the Pistons.
Against the weak East, the Pistons sucked this year. The East will be better next year.
i don't think you get it. the rest of the teams between us and them completely suck. atlanta is terrible, cleveland is even worse, new york is dysfunctional and i think melo's got one foot out the door. detroit just needs to fix ONE of a few problems: Jennings is one problem, Smith shooting threes out the ass is one problem, not having a shooting guard is one problem, not having an NBA caliber coach is one problem. They fix ONE of those things, and I think they are the 8th seed. I see no reason to believe otherwise. drummond's ceiling is ridiculous. they're going to have a top 8 pick. they have trade assets. they WILL improve. i don't see how this is hard to understand. detroit isn't going to be a bottom five team even if they stay put.
They are definitely a bottom 5 team. They have a raw center surrounded by complete garbage - COMPLETE GARBAGE