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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#861 » by BigSlam » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:28 pm

Rich4114 wrote:I am starting to like the kid from Gonzaga a lot.

Which one?

Hachimura or Clarke?
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#864 » by Rich4114 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:03 pm

BigSlam wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:I am starting to like the kid from Gonzaga a lot.

Which one?

Hachimura or Clarke?


Sorry, Hachimura. But now I just read he's ranked like in the 20's by the Draft Express guy.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#865 » by Rich4114 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:03 pm

Who is ready for Cam Reddish to fall all the way to us at 12 because he's going to be a bust so we pick him?
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Post#866 » by SWedd523 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:05 pm

Rich4114 wrote:Who is ready for Cam Reddish to fall all the way to us at 12 because he's going to be a bust so we pick him?

I mean, I'd happily take him if I was in the position to do so
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#867 » by LofJ » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:21 pm

Atlanta will take Reddish, they can afford to gamble. We won't be faced with a Vonleh situation.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#868 » by LofJ » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:58 pm

I almost forgot to do the K, L, M look over for this draft. It isn't foolproof, but when you get a chance take a look at how many of the best players in the NBA have first or last names that begin with those three letters (K and L especially). I think you will be surprised.

This year we've got Romeo Langford, Nassir Little, Keldon Johnson, Kevin Porter Jr, Matisse Thybulle, and Luka Samanic.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#869 » by Snidely FC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:22 pm

LofJ wrote:Goga coming to Charlotte for a workout:

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Of course Goga has already worked out for the Spurs. He is such a quintessential Spur pick.

Year after year watching SA make wise choices, at this point shouldn't we all be asking, "What would San Antonio do?"

Jonathon Givony of DraftExpress fame now at ESPN tabs the Spurs taking Goga https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/26719722/nba-mock-draft-first-round-movement-latest-intel

We should nab Goga before SA do
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#870 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:24 pm

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Miami has: Richardson, Winslow, Dragic, Bam, Olynyk, Waiters and Whiteside. I would take that core over the Hornets core in a heartbeat.

Atlanta has: Trae Young, John Collins, Kevin Huerter, Alex Ken,Dwayne Dedmon, Omari Spellman, Bembry, Bazemore, Alan Crabbe, plus 2 lottery picks and the #17 pick in this years draft. Hawks are way better and it’s not even close.

Memphis has: Conley, JJJ, Valencunias, Avery Bradley, Dillon Brooks, Delon Wright, Chandler Parsons, Ivan Rabb, Caboclo and soon Ja Morant; again, more top to bottom talent than Charlotte.

Cleveland: even with Love, I will concede that they’re worse than the Hornets.

Washington has: Bradley Beal, Satoransky, Thomas Bryant, Jabari Parker, Dwight Howard, Bobby Portis, Sam Dekker, Troy Brown plus #9 in this years draft. It’s close, but I would give the talent edge to the wizards.

Knicks have: DSJ, Mudiay, Kevin Knox, Nitikinla, Mitchell Robinson, Hezonja and soon to be RJ Barret. But they are in the Anthony Davis sweepstakes and could potentially land big free agents so for them it is TBD.


Thanks for listing our teams full rosters, because half of these guys are trash and the common NBA fan doesn’t know them. Are we doing this completely on talent? Or does contracts matter too?

I’m asking because nearly everyone on the Heat is overplayed, but even considering that who is their best player? Kemba is better than Everyone on their roster, I’m not trading Kemba for a package of Richardson, Winslow and Dragic, so let’s just say those players are equal. After that Bridges and Bam are a wash. Waiters and Monk are wash but I think I would rather have Monk. After that nobody is with mentioning on their team.

Wizards? Come on man. Kemba>Beal. We already decided Cody better than Dwight. Bridges better than anyone else on their roster. Portis and Parker are both free agents.

Knicks team sucks other than Barrett and they may trade down and not even get him. Knicks would trade everyone on their team for Kemba alone, and honestly I wouldn’t trade Bridges for anyone on their team right now.

Atlanta is so overrated lol, Kemba obviously better than young. John Collins is just okay, won’t be a top 3 player on a winning team. Then draft picks, everyone else is bench fodder.

Memphis if you count Morant and Conley who won’t play another game for then sure I guess. But after them and JJJ they are bad.





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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#871 » by gundysmullet » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:27 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
gundysmullet wrote:
Miami has: Richardson, Winslow, Dragic, Bam, Olynyk, Waiters and Whiteside. I would take that core over the Hornets core in a heartbeat.

Atlanta has: Trae Young, John Collins, Kevin Huerter, Alex Ken,Dwayne Dedmon, Omari Spellman, Bembry, Bazemore, Alan Crabbe, plus 2 lottery picks and the #17 pick in this years draft. Hawks are way better and it’s not even close.

Memphis has: Conley, JJJ, Valencunias, Avery Bradley, Dillon Brooks, Delon Wright, Chandler Parsons, Ivan Rabb, Caboclo and soon Ja Morant; again, more top to bottom talent than Charlotte.

Cleveland: even with Love, I will concede that they’re worse than the Hornets.

Washington has: Bradley Beal, Satoransky, Thomas Bryant, Jabari Parker, Dwight Howard, Bobby Portis, Sam Dekker, Troy Brown plus #9 in this years draft. It’s close, but I would give the talent edge to the wizards.

Knicks have: DSJ, Mudiay, Kevin Knox, Nitikinla, Mitchell Robinson, Hezonja and soon to be RJ Barret. But they are in the Anthony Davis sweepstakes and could potentially land big free agents so for them it is TBD.


Thanks for listing our teams full rosters, because half of these guys are trash and the common NBA fan doesn’t know them. Are we doing this completely on talent? Or does contracts matter too?

I’m asking because nearly everyone on the Heat is overplayed, but even considering that who is their best player? Kemba is better than Everyone on their roster, I’m not trading Kemba for a package of Richardson, Winslow and Dragic, so let’s just say those players are equal. After that Bridges and Bam are a wash. Waiters and Monk are wash but I think I would rather have Monk. After that nobody is with mentioning on their team.

Wizards? Come on man. Kemba>Beal. We already decided Cody better than Dwight. Bridges better than anyone else on their roster. Portis and Parker are both free agents.

Knicks team sucks other than Barrett and they may trade down and not even get him. Knicks would trade everyone on their team for Kemba alone, and honestly I wouldn’t trade Bridges for anyone on their team right now.

Atlanta is so overrated lol, Kemba obviously better than young. John Collins is just okay, won’t be a top 3 player on a winning team. Then draft picks, everyone else is bench fodder.

Memphis if you count Morant and Conley who won’t play another game for then sure I guess. But after them and JJJ they are bad.





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I stand by what my original stance that you are delusional if you think the hornets are more talented than most of those teams from top to bottom. Jon Collins is “just OK”? Give me a break. Anyway being a homer is fine, but there has to be some level of objectivity. There is not one player on the Hornets roster other than Kemba that would start for any other team in the league
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#872 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:20 am

gundysmullet wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
gundysmullet wrote:
Miami has: Richardson, Winslow, Dragic, Bam, Olynyk, Waiters and Whiteside. I would take that core over the Hornets core in a heartbeat.

Atlanta has: Trae Young, John Collins, Kevin Huerter, Alex Ken,Dwayne Dedmon, Omari Spellman, Bembry, Bazemore, Alan Crabbe, plus 2 lottery picks and the #17 pick in this years draft. Hawks are way better and it’s not even close.

Memphis has: Conley, JJJ, Valencunias, Avery Bradley, Dillon Brooks, Delon Wright, Chandler Parsons, Ivan Rabb, Caboclo and soon Ja Morant; again, more top to bottom talent than Charlotte.

Cleveland: even with Love, I will concede that they’re worse than the Hornets.

Washington has: Bradley Beal, Satoransky, Thomas Bryant, Jabari Parker, Dwight Howard, Bobby Portis, Sam Dekker, Troy Brown plus #9 in this years draft. It’s close, but I would give the talent edge to the wizards.

Knicks have: DSJ, Mudiay, Kevin Knox, Nitikinla, Mitchell Robinson, Hezonja and soon to be RJ Barret. But they are in the Anthony Davis sweepstakes and could potentially land big free agents so for them it is TBD.


Thanks for listing our teams full rosters, because half of these guys are trash and the common NBA fan doesn’t know them. Are we doing this completely on talent? Or does contracts matter too?

I’m asking because nearly everyone on the Heat is overplayed, but even considering that who is their best player? Kemba is better than Everyone on their roster, I’m not trading Kemba for a package of Richardson, Winslow and Dragic, so let’s just say those players are equal. After that Bridges and Bam are a wash. Waiters and Monk are wash but I think I would rather have Monk. After that nobody is with mentioning on their team.

Wizards? Come on man. Kemba>Beal. We already decided Cody better than Dwight. Bridges better than anyone else on their roster. Portis and Parker are both free agents.

Knicks team sucks other than Barrett and they may trade down and not even get him. Knicks would trade everyone on their team for Kemba alone, and honestly I wouldn’t trade Bridges for anyone on their team right now.

Atlanta is so overrated lol, Kemba obviously better than young. John Collins is just okay, won’t be a top 3 player on a winning team. Then draft picks, everyone else is bench fodder.

Memphis if you count Morant and Conley who won’t play another game for then sure I guess. But after them and JJJ they are bad.





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I stand by what my original stance that you are delusional if you think the hornets are more talented than most of those teams from top to bottom. Jon Collins is “just OK”? Give me a break. Anyway being a homer is fine, but there has to be some level of objectivity. There is not one player on the Hornets roster other than Kemba that would start for any other team in the league


Hahaha GTFO...

You don’t think Jeremy Lamb/Bridges/Batum are starting for the Pistons? Cavs? Grizzlies? Thunder? Knicks?

Zeller would start for wiz, spurs, warriors, Lakers, Cavs, mavs, and hawks.

Marvin starts for nets, clippers, and probably rockets.

I’m not arguing we are a great team, but I think you overreacting on saying we have no talent after Kemba.








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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#873 » by gundysmullet » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:39 am

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Rich4114 wrote:Who is ready for Cam Reddish to fall all the way to us at 12 because he's going to be a bust so we pick him?

I mean, I'd happily take him if I was in the position to do so

Just out of curiosity, why? No player that came out of college after one year and put up similar statistics as he has went on to have a all star type career in the NBA. He was the third option at Duke meaning that defenses concentrated on Zion and RJ and yet he still put up horrible statistics across the board and disappeared for long stretches of the game. If he went to some irrelevant P5 school like Mississippi State or Minnesota or Pittsburgh and put up similar numbers no one would even be talking about him being a first round pick let alone a lottery pick. But he was a McDonald’s All-American and has the Duke mystique behind his name so somehow he is projected to be better than he is.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#874 » by gundysmullet » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:42 am

JMAC3 wrote:
gundysmullet wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Thanks for listing our teams full rosters, because half of these guys are trash and the common NBA fan doesn’t know them. Are we doing this completely on talent? Or does contracts matter too?

I’m asking because nearly everyone on the Heat is overplayed, but even considering that who is their best player? Kemba is better than Everyone on their roster, I’m not trading Kemba for a package of Richardson, Winslow and Dragic, so let’s just say those players are equal. After that Bridges and Bam are a wash. Waiters and Monk are wash but I think I would rather have Monk. After that nobody is with mentioning on their team.

Wizards? Come on man. Kemba>Beal. We already decided Cody better than Dwight. Bridges better than anyone else on their roster. Portis and Parker are both free agents.

Knicks team sucks other than Barrett and they may trade down and not even get him. Knicks would trade everyone on their team for Kemba alone, and honestly I wouldn’t trade Bridges for anyone on their team right now.

Atlanta is so overrated lol, Kemba obviously better than young. John Collins is just okay, won’t be a top 3 player on a winning team. Then draft picks, everyone else is bench fodder.

Memphis if you count Morant and Conley who won’t play another game for then sure I guess. But after them and JJJ they are bad.





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I stand by what my original stance that you are delusional if you think the hornets are more talented than most of those teams from top to bottom. Jon Collins is “just OK”? Give me a break. Anyway being a homer is fine, but there has to be some level of objectivity. There is not one player on the Hornets roster other than Kemba that would start for any other team in the league


Hahaha GTFO...

You don’t think Jeremy Lamb/Bridges/Batum are starting for the Pistons? Cavs? Grizzlies? Thunder? Knicks?

Zeller would start for wiz, spurs, warriors, Lakers, Cavs, mavs, and hawks.

Marvin starts for nets, clippers, and probably rockets.

I’m not arguing we are a great team, but I think you overreacting on saying we have no talent after Kemba.








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With or without Kemba I think this is one of the five worst teams in the NBA. As a fan, I hope I am right because I want them to get a really good draft pick in a good draft.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#875 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:41 pm

Mitch needs to swing for the fences and take a player who can be a two-way star. The guy in our range who has the most realistic shot at being that player is Romeo Langford. He has a Harden-like ability to get to the free throw line. And chances are he wouldn't be available at 12 if he decided to sit out and not play through the injury to his shooting hand.

I like NAW and PJ Washington, both of them will be in the league for a while. But given the team's situation risks need to be taken.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

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Post#877 » by hotrod » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:36 pm

LofJ wrote:Mitch needs to swing for the fences and take a player who can be a two-way star. The guy in our range who has the most realistic shot at being that player is Romeo Langford. He has a Harden-like ability to get to the free throw line. And chances are he wouldn't be available at 12 if he decided to sit out and not play through the injury to his shooting hand.

I like NAW and PJ Washington, both of them will be in the league for a while. But given the team's situation risks need to be taken.


Agree. I think we need a boom or bust pick. It’s called the lottery for a reason. Charlotte can’t afford to play it safe. I love Langford’s upside. He can get to his spots anytime he wants, just needs to learn to finish better.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#878 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:46 pm

hotrod wrote:
LofJ wrote:Mitch needs to swing for the fences and take a player who can be a two-way star. The guy in our range who has the most realistic shot at being that player is Romeo Langford. He has a Harden-like ability to get to the free throw line. And chances are he wouldn't be available at 12 if he decided to sit out and not play through the injury to his shooting hand.

I like NAW and PJ Washington, both of them will be in the league for a while. But given the team's situation risks need to be taken.


Agree. I think we need a boom or bust pick. It’s called the lottery for a reason. Charlotte can’t afford to play it safe. I love Langford’s upside. He can get to his spots anytime he wants, just needs to learn to finish better.


The thing about Langford, as opposed to other boom/bust guys like Little and Bol, is that even if he doesn't develop much he'll likely at least be a rotation player. A better scoring, but worse defending Gerald Henderson is his floor. As long as he doesn't have character issues I don't see a risk that he will be a bust and out of the league in a few years.

Langford represents the best risk/reward bet in our draft range.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#879 » by hotrod » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:53 pm

https://t.co/Nj2vqjNSrl

Good read on Langford.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#880 » by Chapelchilla » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:40 pm

hotrod wrote:https://t.co/Nj2vqjNSrl

Good read on Langford.


Nice article. I like the pick. Seems to be what we need. A big, athletic scorer who can help kemba in the backcourt with size and play making. While Lamb is a better shot, he was not a terrific compliment to Kemba as he is not a creator or tough. Hopefully, Romeo can develop a better outside shot in the pro coaching environment anyway. I hope we can get Samanic or another big later. Maybe Monk and the 36 pick can get us a later first rounder from Boston or Atlanta.

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