The Scoot Henderson Thread

[BeesWax]

So, is Miller going to be a SG? Is he athletic enough for that? Can he create his own shot for that? If Miles and PJ are locked in, that is the only place he can play. Or are we drafting him to...be a 3&D player?

This is my concern. In my opinion not he is not athletic enough to play SG often. He does not handle it well enough and he can't get his own shot against good athletes his size. You can watch some of his bad games and see that when he was matched up against a high level athlete with length he didn't know what to do.

If we draft him I hope he proves the stats wrong. I hope he is the shooter his supporters say he is and not the one that showed up in top 50 games. Maybe he is but he doesn't look very explosive and quick when you watch him. He is smooth but I don't know how that will translate.

[Rich4114]

When you aren’t a player or so away from contending you simply do not prioritize fit based on todays roster over talent. Scoot is universally viewed as the better talent compared to Miller. They’ll find a way to make it work either with the roster as is or with a tweaked one. Scoot has special skills that doesn’t come around every year. Miller can shoot.

[vexco]

When you aren’t a player or so away from contending you simply do not prioritize fit based on todays roster over talent. Scoot is universally viewed as the better talent compared to Miller. They’ll find a way to make it work either with the roster as is or with a tweaked one. Scoot has special skills that doesn’t come around every year. Miller can shoot.

Where? According to those who talk to front office people(Reddick, etc), Miller is viewed as the #2 BPA by a majority of them.

[BeesWax]

When you aren’t a player or so away from contending you simply do not prioritize fit based on todays roster over talent. Scoot is universally viewed as the better talent compared to Miller. They’ll find a way to make it work either with the roster as is or with a tweaked one. Scoot has special skills that doesn’t come around every year. Miller can shoot.

Where? According to those who talk to front office people(Reddick, etc), Miller is viewed as the #2 BPA by a majority of them.

According to most reports people who want to move up want to move up for Scoot.

This whole Miller is mostly 2 on boards started with Woj and it seems like other just picked it up. This was the same guy who had Smith locked in a #1 last year the whole time. I think it is hard to know who people want and these guys are mostly guessing. There was an article today that basically said one guy said it and others jumped on on SI. Wow is sticking to his guns and maybe he ends up right but right now I am not sure anyone has anything more than a guess or hunch.

[SWedd523]

When you aren’t a player or so away from contending you simply do not prioritize fit based on todays roster over talent. Scoot is universally viewed as the better talent compared to Miller. They’ll find a way to make it work either with the roster as is or with a tweaked one. Scoot has special skills that doesn’t come around every year. Miller can shoot.

When guys are due long term contracts it goes a bit beyond today's fit.

Also, I don't think it's that universal as evidenced by the Redick and Woj comments in recent days.

[vexco]

When you aren’t a player or so away from contending you simply do not prioritize fit based on todays roster over talent. Scoot is universally viewed as the better talent compared to Miller. They’ll find a way to make it work either with the roster as is or with a tweaked one. Scoot has special skills that doesn’t come around every year. Miller can shoot.

Where? According to those who talk to front office people(Reddick, etc), Miller is viewed as the #2 BPA by a majority of them.

According to most reports people who want to move up want to move up for Scoot.

This whole Miller is mostly 2 on boards started with Woj and it seems like other just picked it up. This was the same guy who had Smith locked in a #1 last year the whole time. I think it is hard to know who people want and these guys are mostly guessing. There was an article today that basically said one guy said it and others jumped on on SI. Wow is sticking to his guns and maybe he ends up right but right now I am not sure anyone has anything more than a guess or hunch.

So teams who need a PG want to move up for Scoot? Ok.

They're the same tier of prospect. I'm happy with either one but acting Scoot is "universally" considered better is just weird to me.

[TheCollector]

With Scoot being 6'4 with a long wingspan and very athletic, I think he could fit well next to Melo as the SG. Melo is just too good a passer to be moved off ball. I also like the fact that Melo shoots in the high 30's from 3 meaning if Scoot is going 1 on1 it will be harder for guards to help off Melo. I really think this can work.

[JMAC3]

Rafael Barlowe has Scoot going 3rd in his mock this morning.

Behind The Numbers
The Good
Shot 70% from floor when driving to his right out of spot-ups
77.8% on off-ball cuts to the rim
Efficient scorer attacking out of dribble handoffs — 50%

The Bad
Shot 33% on catch-and-shoot jumpers
31% FG on uncontested catch-and-shoot attempts
30% from the floor in isolation
40% as pick-and-roll ball handler

The Ugly
Missed 6 of his 22 dunks this season
16th percentile in transition finishing — 51% FG
23rd percentile in jump shot efficiency

[JMAC3]

Rafael Barlowe has Scoot going 3rd in his mock this morning.

Behind The Numbers
The Good
Shot 70% from floor when driving to his right out of spot-ups
77.8% on off-ball cuts to the rim
Efficient scorer attacking out of dribble handoffs — 50%

The Bad
Shot 33% on catch-and-shoot jumpers
31% FG on uncontested catch-and-shoot attempts
30% from the floor in isolation
40% as pick-and-roll ball handler

The Ugly
Missed 6 of his 22 dunks this season
16th percentile in transition finishing — 51% FG
23rd percentile in jump shot efficiency

Scoot is awful transition finisher apparently.
Also, shoot worse in isolation compared to Miller.
Both him and Miller were great in dribble handoffs. [/quote]


Few random comps between him and Scoot.
Miller shot 33% as PnR handler, Scoot only shot 40% for something he is supposed to be elite at.
Miller shot 32% in iso, Scoot shot 30%
40% shooting out of PnR isn't all that effective for someone who has been preached as elite at that.

[JMAC3]

Barlowe just told me Scoot was 43.5% EFG in PnR. That is truly awful.

LaMelo was at 45.6% this year and only averaged 0.81 PPP. Ranked 37/39 guys who used more than 6 possessions in PnR per game.

Not sure Scoot was nearly as productive in PnR as the general consensus claims.

[Rich4114]

When you aren’t a player or so away from contending you simply do not prioritize fit based on todays roster over talent. Scoot is universally viewed as the better talent compared to Miller. They’ll find a way to make it work either with the roster as is or with a tweaked one. Scoot has special skills that doesn’t come around every year. Miller can shoot.

Where? According to those who talk to front office people(Reddick, etc), Miller is viewed as the #2 BPA by a majority of them.

Let me know when we see a named source come out and announce this.

[vexco]

When you aren’t a player or so away from contending you simply do not prioritize fit based on todays roster over talent. Scoot is universally viewed as the better talent compared to Miller. They’ll find a way to make it work either with the roster as is or with a tweaked one. Scoot has special skills that doesn’t come around every year. Miller can shoot.

Where? According to those who talk to front office people(Reddick, etc), Miller is viewed as the #2 BPA by a majority of them.

Let me know when we see a named source come out and announce this.

I guess we'll have to take Rich4114's word for it as opposed to reports from NBA people.

[JMAC3]

How am I just finding out Scoot Henderson is in the new LeBron movie Shooting Stars?
He plays not LeBron, but Romeo Travis lol...

[wilson115]

Video breakdown of Scoot Henderson's field goal attempts vs. teams who go underneath his ball screens.
He was 17-35 (48.5%) overall, 11-22 (1.0 points per shot) from the mid-range, and 6-13 (46.1% from deep) when left alone from 3.

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[GiggitySmalls]

Can someone post the article about him being above 6'2 in shoes? This has me even more interested.

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[Bassman]

That video of Scoot’s FGA’s along with others I’ve watched are helpful relative to analyzing his shooting form. Scoot’s arm and release are good…nothing off kilter there. His issues are related to grounding and lower body movement. Notice how his fader attempts are almost always misses. His most successful arcs are set shots, allowing him to get his body firmly planted and flowing up to his release. Mess with that and his accuracy fades.

Is it something he can improve upon? It will take some time, but yes I think he can get better. I do not think his shooting percentage will be top tier for PG’s, since he hasn’t improved it very much over two G-League seasons where all you do is work on your game. That’s no knock on the young man…just what I believe he is showing us relative to my eye test and his track record to date.

His other skills and assets will help him achieve some impact in the league, but not sure he hits all-star status. His leadership and dedication makes you want to fall in love with the kid.

[Giddf]

Scoot shot 21% on 3s his first season. He improved to 33% last year. It's very early to put a cap on him as a shooter. And he has shown good improvement thus far.

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[wilson115]

Plowright with his own observations:

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[JMAC3]

Same thing I posted about in Miller thread. quotes from coaches/execs on Scoot.

"Western Conference Scout 1: Scoot’s got a chance (to be great). But I worry about Scoot’s mindset, in terms of how hard he has to work. I don’t want to say they handed everything to him, but they obviously built that whole G League thing around him the last couple of years. He carried himself with an air of I’ve arrived. And I think he’s going to be in for a rude awakening when he gets to the NBA."

"The biggest thing for me is, he hasn’t played a lot of basketball the last couple of years. Is he going to push through it, especially when stuff gets tough? Physically, mentally, is he going to push through it? Physically, he’s got the tools. He’s got a great body. He’s a hell of an athlete. I just wonder if he’s going to push through when he hits some hard times. That’s my biggest concern with him. …"

Western Conference Scout 2: Yeah (there’s concern about the shot). But tell me an elite athlete that can shoot. Name me one. Give me one. Why would they shoot? If you’re coaching against Westbrook, Derrick Rose, and they came down all the time and shot 3s, wouldn’t you look at your assistants and go, “Oh, thank God he’s doing this. We can’t guard this (bleep).”

Western Conference Executive 1: I think he’s the real deal. He took some of the G League off, just injuries and all that. He was dynamic in the Las Vegas games. Maybe he’s not all the way what you saw in the first Vegas game. But he ain’t what you saw at points in time in the season, either. He’s got the shoulders and the mentality to be the face of the franchise. That’s, like, the thing he’s got over Brandon. The responsibility of being that guy, I think he’s built for.

[JustBuzzin]

I got a feeling we had Miller as the guy up until the workout. Scoot impressed which is why they called them back for a 2nd workout. Reports are we are likely to keep the pick now.

Just my feeling but I think Scoot won them over in the interview process.

This is coming from a guy who wanted Miller. If Scoot is the pick im on board. I just hope we get a new coach. Cliff doesn't know how to use 2 young dynamic guards like Melo/Scoot.