1st rd pick general discussion #2 overall (Poll Added)

Marino · Post #881 » by **Marino** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 2:58 am

Yeah its as crazy as people comparing Thomas Robinson to Dejuan Blair.

Eoghan · Post #882 » by **Eoghan** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:08 am

KembaWalker wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:We've already got a homeless version of Bargs in Mullens. I'd rather see if Mully can improve, wouldn't be far-fetched to think he could become a 20ppg guy in a year or two if he works on his game.

Byron Mullens becoming a 20ppg player is one of the most far-fetched things i've heard on this forum.

He could get 20 easy if he just learned how to get fouled. Maggette used to be able to do this and he's not a 7 footer with unlimited range.

TheKingofSting · Post #883 » by **TheKingofSting** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:09 am

Marino wrote:Yeah its as crazy as people comparing Thomas Robinson to Dejuan Blair.

I agree, DX says he is more Reggie Evans.

HornetJail · Post #884 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:38 am

Mulles won't average 20 points a game. If he really works on it, he can get 15-17 but I can't see him becoming a 20ppg scorer. That's getting into elite territory. It's possible, but highly unlikely. I'd much rather him work on becoming a multi-dimensional player. He's very athletic, I'd like to see him use some of his gifts on D and on the glass.

Post #885 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:48 am

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:Mulles won't average 20 points a game. If he really works on it, he can get 15-17 but I can't see him becoming a 20ppg scorer. That's getting into elite territory.

Out of all the PF's and C's in the NBA last season only TWO averaged 20ppg or more.

Dwight and Dirk.

Mully aint now nor will he ever be on that level!

HornetJail · Post #886 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:52 am

BigSlam wrote:Out of all the PF's and C's in the NBA last season only TWO averaged 20ppg or more.

Kevin Love, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Blake Griffin all say hi.

HasheemThabeet · Post #887 » by **HasheemThabeet** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:56 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
Marino wrote:Yeah its as crazy as people comparing Thomas Robinson to Dejuan Blair.

I agree, DX says he is more Reggie Evans.

Evans is far better than Blair

Battery · Post #888 » by **Battery** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:56 am

PF's and Center's need to be mean and nasty and also be good defenders. Bargs has none of those qualities on defense or on offense. I would never trade a high pick for that. Bargs ain't Dirk. Doesn't have the killer instinct. No thank you. Let him rot in Toronto, or trade him to GSW and pair him up with that other defensively challenged stiff, David Lee.

freakon0mics · Post #889 » by **freakon0mics** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 4:08 am

BigSlam wrote:
CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:Mulles won't average 20 points a game. If he really works on it, he can get 15-17 but I can't see him becoming a 20ppg scorer. That's getting into elite territory.

Out of all the PF's and C's in the NBA last season only TWO averaged 20ppg or more.

Dwight and Dirk.

Mully aint now nor will he ever be on that level!

Not to mention that Mullens is primarily a jump shooting big men that shoots 42%. He won't be averaging 20ppg shooting jumpers at 42%.

Badd_Intentions · Post #890 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:13 am

We'd never trade for bargs. Cho is not that dumb

KembaWalker · Post #891 » by **KembaWalker** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:39 am

getting a young former first overall pick that has had back to back 20ppg seasons at the cost of moving from 2 to 8 in a draft class that is virtually equal 2-10? yall aint thinking straight. look at our free agent signing history and try to grasp that nobody worth a **** is ever going to come here willingly. taking on a contract is meaningless to us. who is even our best free agent signing?? reggie williams?

freakon0mics · Post #892 » by **freakon0mics** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:51 am

The trade itself is great. We have the opportunity to net Bargnani, who would actually pair up decently with Bismack, and the 8th pick, which could net us anyone from Jeremy Lamb, Austin Rivers, Perry Jones, or Terrence Ross. Thing is though, I'll doubt Toronto would pull the trigger on that trade. We might have to consider adding our 2nd round this year or next and maybe another asset.

Stun704 · Post #893 » by **Stun704** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 7:51 am

Jaruff wrote:I'd take Bargnani over most of the players in the draft. He's that good in the right system.

I'd insist that Toronto take Tyrus though. Have to dump that contract if we're taking one back. Then call Philadelphia about #8 for AI. Screw rebuilding, we'll be in the playoffs next year.

Kemba - Hendo - AI - Bargs - Biz

are u kidding me... Bargs is soft as baby ****, Mullens and Barfs are about the same player

daidalos · Post #894 » by **daidalos** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 8:18 am

KembaWalker wrote:8 and bargnani for 2 and maggette? and then pick up Lamb at 8....think theyd bite?

They would probably bite for a Mags and 31 for Bargs. Giving up the #2 for a soft and average pf would be stupid imo. The #8 is really a big downgrade.

Bargs has a bad contract which really decreases his value for other teams, a good gm would take advantage of this fact and would rob them. If they not bite, then who cares, we are not in a hurry and Bargs is not an elite player anyways.

Kembastockton · Post #895 » by **Kembastockton** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 1:41 pm

Bargnani is a bad fit right now. I could see doing that trade in 14. Adding Bargnani scoring might put us pack in 5-10 lotto range before we got a superstar to build around. Then we might have to surrender a lotto pick to Chicago with Bargnani as our main guy.

Jaruff · Post #896 » by **Jaruff** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:25 pm

Stun704 wrote:are u kidding me... Bargs is soft as baby ****, Mullens and Barfs are about the same player

I love the softies. Have them run the court and shoot jumpers all game. Get back to scoring 110+ a game.

Post #897 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 3:46 pm

in order for mullens to average a lot of points he has to play a lot of minutes. thats the problem. he will never get big minutes (except on a 7 win team) unless he drastically improves his defense. no real coach is going to allow mullens to play if he doesnt learn how to guard someone and rebound.

James Gatz · Post #898 » by **James Gatz** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 4:21 pm

fatlever wrote:in order for mullens to average a lot of points he has to play a lot of minutes. thats the problem. he will never get big minutes (except on a 7 win team) unless he drastically improves his defense. no real coach is going to allow mullens to play if he doesnt learn how to guard someone and rebound.

Part of the reason I would really love Robinson. It would be so nice to have two tough guys in the paint for a change.

Kembastockton · Post #899 » by **Kembastockton** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:42 pm

Part of the reason I would really love Robinson. It would be so nice to have two tough guys in the paint for a change.
fatlever wrote:in order for mullens to average a lot of points he has to play a lot of minutes. thats the problem. he will never get big minutes (except on a 7 win team) unless he drastically improves his defense. no real coach is going to allow mullens to play if he doesnt learn how to guard someone and rebound.

Part of the reason I would really love Robinson. It would be so nice to have two tough guys in the paint for a change.

This is why T-Rob is the odds on favorite for our pick. I don't see Cho passing up the toughest rebounder in the draft when the kid can score too.

vorbis · Post #900 » by **vorbis** » Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:52 pm

while he'll probably never average 23ppg, i feel like MKG is more than the sum of his parts and is getting short changed a great deal in this thread. i still feel like he's going to be the pick, even though i'm coming around big time on beal and may have different ideas myself.

Who should the Bobcats draft at #2?