OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread

[misterglover]

MKG is another in a long line of busts this team has picked......

you need to photoshop him into your avatar with the rest

LMAO that would be AWESOME!!!

[countryboi]

MKG is another in a long line of busts this team has picked...... you guys like setting yourselves up for failure by continuing to deny that this kid is nothing more than a role player. And i would take Beal over him in a hot second and wouldnt look back. Im so tired of the excuses for this kid, he's not a franchise player, or a star he's a role player thats what he is what he was and what he will always be.

2/3s way in to his rookie season and we already call MKG a bust...thats just ridiculous

[misterglover]

do better how?....because im not willing sugarcoat it or make excuses for what my eyes tell me!?..... not saying he's a Morrison type bust but he's a role player and not worthy of the #2 pick or gonna have any impact on the worse team in the history of the league. And nobody's gonna convince me different, he's a ROLE player!!!

[fatlever]

im not gonna lie and say i am not starting to have doubts about him. half my brain tells me to relax, he is young, exhausted, with a very fixable flaw that will help his game. the other half of my brain tells me his offense is so broken that it will be damn near impossible to fix to the point that he is ever a great player. last night was brutal, in a different way. its not like he was bricking shots and getting in foul trouble. he just wasnt in the game at all. no impact on either end for 20 minutes. a few more games like that and we should all get very worried.

perhaps dunlap needs to dial back him minutes big time for a couple of weeks to give him some rest. we were all hoping that he would get some rest during the all-star break, but that didnt really happen since he was in houston. summer cant come fast enough for mkg.

[misterglover]

I dont wanna come off as if Im just hating on the kid or dont like him or calling him an all out horrible player.....what im saying is do your research, go back and look at the documentary about him and his HS team...look at his games from UK.....he is not a scorer he is a player that gets his points off hustle, he's not a guy you can run plays for on a regular basis and people act like "oh he can just wake up one day and its gonna change".....i've played enough basketball in my life to know that you dont change who you are as a player.....if we were a better team then I would've been fine with MKG but based on where we are as a team and who we have on this team he was not the right pick for us. What he brings to the table is not gonna have any major impact on this team as we are...i've said it before and will continue to say it, he's a role player on a team that doesnt need role players right now....im fine w/ him as player, im not fine with him as a #2 pick, im not fine with him being the cornerstone of my franchise and im not fine w/ people using every excuse in the book to defend him when they know there eyes tell them different if they are honest.

[MasterIchiro]

I think passing on Beal was a horrendous blunder. I dread the thought of Cho behind the MKG pick and it shakes the foundation of my confidence in him. So I'm going to go ahead and blame it on Higgins because that helps me sleep better at night.

[countryboi]

seriously the kid is fine....everyone here is so bi polar that they change the way they feel about a player based on how the wind blows. first everyone was complaining about us passing on drummond before that it was lillard, now beal. I like beal but the kid is an undersized dime a dozen shooting guard. he has a skill set so rare that there are 3 guys in this upcoming draft just like him.

does he need to work on his game? of course but i refuse to change my mind on what kind of play he is going to be from a few bad games. he is still a jump shot away from being the best player on this team

[thruthefire]

2-3 years from now:

15ppg, 8rpg, 4apg , 2spg, 1bpg on 47%. i can live with that.

I think this is most realistic. Back to the Marvin Williams comparison, he averaged 14.4/6.0/1.5/1.0/0.5 on 46% over his third and fourth seasons. MKG has shown more promise as a passer and shot blocker, but probably won't develop a three-point shot like Marvin did. That's OK, he needs to focus on his mid-range shooting.

[misterglover]

he is still a jump shot away from being the best player on this team

So does that speak more about how good MKG is or how bad this team is......

[advanced]

Bismack is just a jumpshot away from being our best player too. Should I start getting my hopes up for that too? I mean its so easy apparently

[James Gatz]

Bismack is just a jumpshot away from being our best player too. Should I start getting my hopes up for that too? I mean its so easy apparently

I disagree about Biz. Even with a solid jump shot he wouldn't be able to catch a ball.

[advanced]

Bismack is just a jumpshot away from being our best player too. Should I start getting my hopes up for that too? I mean its so easy apparently

I disagree about Biz. Even with a solid jump shot he wouldn't be able to catch a ball.

you'd think that would be even easier to learn than a jumpshot

[fatlever]

seriously the kid is fine....everyone here is so bi polar that they change the way they feel about a player based on how the wind blows. first everyone was complaining about us passing on drummond before that it was lillard, now beal. I like beal but the kid is an undersized dime a dozen shooting guard. he has a skill set so rare that there are 3 guys in this upcoming draft just like him.

does he need to work on his game? of course but i refuse to change my mind on what kind of play he is going to be from a few bad games. he is still a jump shot away from being the best player on this team

i agree in the sense that i think its ridiculous to start playing the "we should have drafted ____ " game after half a season. the person in the blank will change every year for the next few years based on who is showing the most promise. like you said, first it was lillard, then drummond, then beal. what if waiters blows up next year, or barnes? what if thomas robinson blows up in houston? are people going to be playing revisionist history in two years crying "i cant believe we passed up waiters". thats ridiculous and we all know it.

however, it will be damn frustrating if in a couple of years you can make the argument that we could have drafted damn near anybody else in the top 9 and been better off. and lets be honest, just about every player in the top 9 outside of robinson has at least shown the glimmer of potential to be a better player than MKG. of course i am not saying it will happen. MKG might still be the best, but it would not surprise me of anyone one of the top 9 guys ended up with a better career. even ross has had a few games this year where he showed the potential to be a top wing in a few years.

[Kembastockton]

^ Exactly. Beal is averaging 13. Hendo is averaging 13. Ramon is averaging 14. Gordon is averaging 12. MKG is averaging 10. Even if MKG does bust there was nobody available that was obviously a number two pick. We wanted the number one. We had to settle for number two. Cho did what he had to do. He took the player that he knew could eventually be of the most value to the franchise even if he was not necessarily quote unquote number two talent. There was no reason to take a short two guard when our most glaring holes had highly rated players available. Marvin Williams was a bad pick, because Chris Paul and Derrone Williams were still on the board. There was no one available this past summer that had the potential that MKG did. Beal is playing great now on a team with a weak two guard rotation. Lillard is playing great now on a team with a weak pointguard rotation. If we had drafted Beal how would he get minutes? He is not the defender Henderson is and only matches his scoring, and Gordon's contract/three pointshot demands that he get plenty of minutes. Same issue applies with Sessions. Robinson has proved to be less nba ready than MKG. Cho made the right choice. MKG can easily get decent minutes. He can easily be pulled when he struggles. And in the midst of those struggles he continues to be one of the most highly rated rookies.

[Bassman]

Hyphen is only rated highly by my fellow board members. I know sportscasters from other teams may be cracking on him a little unfairly, but it is a reflection on the collective observation (and reputation) forming around the league on MKG. Nobody is saying he is a certified bust, but his play is truly horrible on most nights.

Cho's letter is full of cand canes and butterflies, but that's what you expect from any front office. The fact that he qualifies Kemba, Hyphen, Biz and Taylor as part of the "formula" they used to build OKC is LOL worthy. An earlier poster said it best (paraphrasing):"get us a star scoring machine and a quality post player that can deliver nightly productive averages and defense, put them with this bunch, we may be onto something". I would call that scenario a solid start. On a really great team, Kemba is the backup PG, Biz is a deep rotation guy (4th or 5th option), Taylor is a deep swing option and MKG is an energy guy off the bench. I like how they could contribute, but calling the part of the starting core that will bring OKC-level success to Charlotte is pure fiction.

Lastly, Dunlap and company need to figure out what the funk is inside Hyphen's head & heart. Hard to play a guy to develop him if he's contributing little to the cause.

[Eoghan]

MKG is fine.

[misterglover]

Beal is playing great now on a team with a weak two guard rotation. Lillard is playing great now on a team with a weak pointguard rotation.

Stop with the excuses already!! by that same stupid logic shouldnt MKG being doing even more??, after all he was drafted to a team with a weak everything rotation.... You guys crack me up, I love everyones passion for the 'Cats, but some of you guys could make a funeral sound like a CIAA party of the year canidate.

There were players in this draft that had more star potential than a flawed defensive player and some of us and the real scouts and GM's in the league knew it.....the problem is our franchise never knows it.....

[Liver_Pooty]

MKG is fine.

[misterglover]

MKG is A ROLE PLAYER.

Its more accurate now....

[Liver_Pooty]

MKG is A ROLE PLAYER.

Its more accurate now....

Lol. Alrighty.