Signed By Indiana - The Jeremy Lamb Thread

mrknowitall215 · Post #901 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:09 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Not sure how exactly both TD and Lamb play going forward. Where are those minutes coming from? The only thing that makes sense is if the days of JLin at SG are over, and even that only opens up a couple minutes per game.

I took Clifford's statement as him saying that both Daniels and Lamb will get a chance to play going forward but not necessarily within the same game

TTNN · Post #902 » by **TTNN** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:00 pm

Zombiesonics wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:SportsFromMyEyes ‏@JTyree704 21m21 minutes ago Charlotte, NC
I asked Clifford how Jeremy Lamb has responded to Troy Daniels receiving his minutes and what Lamb has to do to get back to playing #Hornets

SportsFromMyEyes ‏@JTyree704 19m19 minutes ago Charlotte, NC
Clifford said he spoke to Lamb and Daniels and they'll both play going forward #Hornets.

SportsFromMyEyes ‏@JTyree704 17m17 minutes ago Charlotte, NC
Clifford said Lamb is new to being an every night player & the challenges are different so they gave him a few games to "regroup" #Hornets.

SportsFromMyEyes ‏@JTyree704 15m15 minutes ago Charlotte, NC
Clifford also mentioned Lamb handled Daniels receiving his minutes well and that Lamb could play a major role to end the season #Hornets.

Interesting. Also good work Bonnell

That beat guy tyree is very good. But Clifford plans on playing both Daniels and lamb ? There aren't enough minutes to go around to do that.

Giving a guy a "few games to regroup" is also strange , especially when the player you replaced him with is not nearly as effective. I could easily see lamb not getting minutes for the rest of the year . Basically the Scott Brooks treatment

If somehow Cho signed Lamb, and coach Clifford don't really like him, I could totally see Lamb get consistent min and play great to finish the season, and Lamb could get traded during the summer, and coach Clifford try to keep Lee this off season.

Lamb had great reputation this season, signed a team friendly contract, with his age and locked for 3 more years, Hornets could potentially sale high if Lamb could finish with a high note. This team could not keep both Lamb and Lee anyway, and I'd go with Lee than Lamb for the next three years. Hornets is not looking for a starting SG anyway, that will be Batum next season.

qiantom · Post #903 » by **qiantom** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:11 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Not sure how exactly both TD and Lamb play going forward. Where are those minutes coming from? The only thing that makes sense is if the days of JLin at SG are over, and even that only opens up a couple minutes per game.

I took Clifford's statement as him saying that both Daniels and Lamb will get a chance to play going forward but not necessarily within the same game

Yeah, I think coach was saying they will compete for minutes.

catch20two · Post #904 » by **catch20two** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:39 pm

I think Lamb plays tonight after those last 3 games of the bench playing like ish.

Zombiesonics · Post #905 » by **Zombiesonics** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:44 pm

@ttnn I don't think anybody expects lamb to be a starter or something . He's not some game changer who could change the outlook of a team , but he could be a great great bench piece on a contending team. Developing your bench is a major part of coaching, just ask greg poppvich. Playing Kemba Lee and batum 39 mpg will just run them into the ground , you have to find the balance.

The bench unit run by the two Jeremy's> alfense.

spaceballer · Post #906 » by **spaceballer** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:02 pm

Zombiesonics wrote:@ttnn I don't think anybody expects lamb to be a starter or something . He's not some game changer who could change the outlook of a team , but he could be a great great bench piece on a contending team. Developing your bench is a major part of coaching, just ask greg poppvich. Playing Kemba Lee and batum 39 mpg will just run them into the ground , you have to find the balance.

The bench unit run by the two Jeremy's> alfense.

I think TTNN may be right. It's C.Lee that Lamb is competing with for the spot of backup SG long term.

Next season, it will be MKG at starting SF and Batum at backup SF. Batum at starting SG and either Lee or Lamb at backup SG, not both.

So the team needs to decide if they want to try to re-sign Lee (who they gave up draft picks to trade for) to be the backup SG and trade Lamb. Or keep Lamb at backup SG and let Lee (and the draft picks wasted to get him) walk for nothing.

catch20two · Post #907 » by **catch20two** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:25 pm

spaceballer wrote:
Zombiesonics wrote:@ttnn I don't think anybody expects lamb to be a starter or something . He's not some game changer who could change the outlook of a team , but he could be a great great bench piece on a contending team. Developing your bench is a major part of coaching, just ask greg poppvich. Playing Kemba Lee and batum 39 mpg will just run them into the ground , you have to find the balance.

The bench unit run by the two Jeremy's> alfense.

I think TTNN may be right. It's C.Lee that Lamb is competing with for the spot of backup SG long term.

Next season, it will be MKG at starting SF and Batum at backup SF. Batum at starting SG and either Lee or Lamb at backup SG, not both.

So the team needs to decide if they want to try to re-sign Lee (who they gave up draft picks to trade for) to be the backup SG and trade Lamb. Or keep Lamb at backup SG and let Lee (and the draft picks wasted to get him) walk for nothing.

Nah Cho gave up draft picks to keep his job so that we don't miss the playoffs for 2 straight years. Keeping Hairston in the lineup was losing formula and it wasn't until MKG returned that we started winning consistently because Hairston was out of the rotation. Either way Cho trades 2nd rounders every year. It doesn't appear that he really values them that much as anything more than trade chips.

antique0o0 · Post #908 » by **antique0o0** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:50 am

Lamb is back. Troy is out.

lin is ok · Post #909 » by **lin is ok** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:24 am

welcome back LAMB!

2k15 · Post #910 » by **2k15** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:34 pm

good effort on defense and crashing the boards. dat shot selection on offense tho

Post #911 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:27 pm

It seems like the ideal role for Lamb for the rest of the season is to do his best Hendo impression. Play aggressive D, fight for boards, and score opportunistically while letting the PGs and other wings do their thing because he's not efficient enough to be a primary scorer and he's not much of a facilitator.

ChokeFasncists · Post #912 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:07 am

Lamb is full of energy!

He needs to make fewer mistakes and have better shot selection tho.

antique0o0 · Post #913 » by **antique0o0** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:08 am

yosemiteben wrote:It seems like the ideal role for Lamb for the rest of the season is to do his best Hendo impression. Play aggressive D, fight for boards, and score opportunistically while letting the PGs and other wings do their thing because he's not efficient enough to be a primary scorer and he's not much of a facilitator.

He's not gonna to become into a very good defender this season, And he likes to initiate the offense. It would be better for the team if Clifford could find another way to use his talents. After all, Hornets has signed him for the long run.

Post #914 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 2:49 am

Lamb is rocking a 35% FG% since getting PT again. He's not an asset on defense and since getting back into the rotation he's basically a liability on offense. I think it's likely that what we saw tonight is what he'll get in the playoffs - he's not in the rotation come playoff time, barring injury or foul trouble.

I think there is a real chance that Daniels gets brought in for spot minutes over Lamb in the playoffs since he's by far the better outside threat.

HornetJail · Post #915 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 2:58 am

yosemiteben wrote:Lamb is rocking a 35% FG% since getting PT again. He's not an asset on defense and since getting back into the rotation he's basically a liability on offense. I think it's likely that what we saw tonight is what he'll get in the playoffs - he's not in the rotation come playoff time, barring injury or foul trouble.

I think there is a real chance that Daniels gets brought in for spot minutes over Lamb in the playoffs since he's by far the better outside threat.

Fully agree. Wish Daniels was seeing minutes right now

catch20two · Post #916 » by **catch20two** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 3:20 am

Clifford just need to make it a 8-man rotation and let it be. I don't want to see Daniels for spot minutes and I don't think Lamb deserves such a unfair shake/short leash where he's held to a different standard than everyone else in the rotation. Kaminsky and Lin can and do make the same mistakes as Lamb and Clifford won't pull them until several mistakes and 10 minutes later. Lamb doesn't get to play freely, he's on egg shells. He's basically Clifford's new redheaded stepchild the way Biz was in yesteryear. I rather see him get DNP-CDs if he's going to play less than 15 minutes nevertheless just 3-5 minutes. There's no momentum or confidence to gain in those stints.

TinmanZBoy · Post #917 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 3:26 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Lamb is rocking a 35% FG% since getting PT again. He's not an asset on defense and since getting back into the rotation he's basically a liability on offense. I think it's likely that what we saw tonight is what he'll get in the playoffs - he's not in the rotation come playoff time, barring injury or foul trouble.

I think there is a real chance that Daniels gets brought in for spot minutes over Lamb in the playoffs since he's by far the better outside threat.

Fully agree. Wish Daniels was seeing minutes right now

coach is testing rotations for the playoff... it is clear that a 8 men rotation, lamb is out... both lamb and Daniels are situational players for the playoff...Lamb needs the ball in his hand to be effective, with Al coming off bench, his game is affected big time... Daniels is a better fit for the offense with the bench unit with Al...however, Daniels is too limited a player, the only thing he does well is catch and shoot... Lamb can bring a lot more, rebounding, closing out etc.. Lamb is clearly the 9th man... Daniels will only see minutes when the team needs a shooter on the court desperately...

TTNN · Post #918 » by **TTNN** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 4:38 am

I'm okay if the rotation limited to 8 person in playoff, but not now. And I don't ever want Troy to take Lamb's time, Troy inserting into the rotation totally take that BF1 out of the game. If there is only 2-3 min, then it is okay to play Troy, but not longer time, Troy is worse a defensive player than Lamb and he can't rebound like Lamb.

Also I don't agree Lamb needs the ball in his hand to be effective, he actually is more of a threat play off ball.

catch20two · Post #919 » by **catch20two** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 4:51 am

There is no Bench Force 1 anymore. It's been landed the moment Lamb stopped playing at least 20 minutes a night. Bench Force 1 was only necessary with Hairston's bad play hijacking and sabotaging our starters. We're playing better overall basketball these days without Hairston and the need of Bench Force 1 to dig us out of holes and create our leads. Would be nice to see Lamb get back into the swing of things since I like him but I'm perfectly fine with the 8-man rotation.

Lamb not playing in the 2nd half had everything to do with us making a comeback and Clifford not trusting him enough to be a part of the consistency in that comeback.

TinmanZBoy · Post #920 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 7:00 am

catch20two wrote:There is no Bench Force 1 anymore. It's been landed the moment Lamb stopped playing at least 20 minutes a night. Bench Force 1 was only necessary with Hairston's bad play hijacking and sabotaging our starters. We're playing better overall basketball these days without Hairston and the need of Bench Force 1 to dig us out of holes and create our leads. Would be nice to see Lamb get back into the swing of things since I like him but I'm perfectly fine with the 8-man rotation.

Lamb not playing in the 2nd half had everything to do with us making a comeback and Clifford not trusting him enough to be a part of the consistency in that comeback.

second this...