Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread

[TinmanZBoy]

Next, Lin was traded to the Lakers. It all started off the same way with Mitch Kupchak saying he has been after Lin for 3 years and Byron Scott claiming to be a huge J Lin fan.

Once the season started, Lin was who he is. An efficient point guard putting up 50-40-90 percentages while Kobe was putting up under 30%. This got Kobe jealous of Lin and also that Lin was the main guy on the team and the same marginalization started. Kobe along with BScott who is just a Kobe worshipper began the process to eliminate and reduce Lin because he was outshining Kobe and producing well to the point people were questioning if this is Lin's team and he should take the last shot. They benched Lin for a career scrub Ronnie Price who Scott labeled head of the snake while Kobe went on to call Lin a coward, a p***y as well as other heinous names. The marginalization did not stop there. Lakers commentators Stu Lantz got in as well exaggerating every Lin turnover and missed shot while giving no credit to his play. Meanwhile the agenda was on full pace to do whatever it takes to get Kobe to beat MJ in scoring.

Things got worse from there. Once Price got injured, inferior rookie Clarkson was promoted to start ahead of the superior Lin. SO now was Lin not only backing up Price but also Clarkson. he would get 1 minute at the end fo each quarter and when he was hot, Scott used to yank him out.

I can go on and on but I am finally happy that Lin has chosen Hornets and Bobcats seem receptive of him.

SOrry for the two long stories but it had to be put out there.

Lmao.

Good luck Charlotte fans. Expect more of these kind of nonsense. These LOF are relentless.

he went a bit overboard but if you did not see how Kobe played like crap last season, you have some seriously tinted glasses. for example, the Lakers for the season averages 85.6 fga per game. Kobe shot 20.4 fga per game. that's 23.8% of all shots per game. for that the Lakers got 22.3 ppg from Kobe. then you will say Kobe facilitates since he averages 5.6 apg. but of course you ignore the 3.7 turnovers per game. and of course Lin turns the ball over too much right? so it was Kobe's team, and the team played like crap. you going to do what's right and put the onus on Kobe?

as for Clarkson, he's not inferior. he's also not superior. since 1/23 last season, he only played less than 27 min 3 times. funny how not getting yanked helps improve performance.

JuanCesta is wrong in many fronts with his conspiracy theory... He spread this type of **** every forum and got banned, most recently by hornetsplanet, he registered two IDs trolling there...

[renmei]

ehh the Kobe jealous is Lin thing is pretty lol, but lets move past that. A few quotes from the candid interview should interest Hornets fans.

He (coach Cliff) has been thinking for a long time how he will use me, and their system in the new season is one reason included. They will play faster and more PNRs.

He said if I was asking him now, then I would come off the bench, But he emphasized if I play well and the team needs me to start, then he wouldn’t limit me to a bench player. The coach also said he will let me play with Kemba for a long time and even if I don’t play well in Charlotte, he will give me a lot of room to play with mistakes.

And this should settle the Lin vs Kemba who should start thing so no more of that nonsense either. Lin won't be starting unless Kemba is injured or really messed up, but Lin'll get his minutes and enough room to make mistakes so everyone should be happy. Get ready for some dual PG action next season, hope it works out.. I'm skeptical but we'll see.

When the coach said we will play more PNRs next season, I asked him why they didn’t play much last season. He told me to look at the players they got this year. Most of them are good at shooting 3s. When the shooting is great, that will create a lot of space, leading to more PNRs. The Hornets said they need 2 players who are great at PNRs, one is Kemba and I can play PNRs with him when we are on court together.

[HornetJail]

So basically you think Lin is going to eat into MKG's minutes?

Batum is used to playing a lot of minutes, more than MKG, so I expect MKG plays 30-32 minutes, Batum could play up to 36. So, if MKG gets 30 minutes at small forward, then Batum could get 18 at SG, and 18 at SF, and then 30 minutes at SG get split between Lamb and Lin. Lin will play 12 minutes behind Kemba at PG, and probably another 10 at SG, leaving 20mpg for Lamb.

Lin is not going to play only 22 mpg. You automatically gave Lamb 20 mpg but his career average is 15.7 mpg. if this team plays 10 deep, expect players to play 30-32 mpg tops. otherwise, you have gain nothing. unless you believe that your 2nd team which will only play 15-18 mpg will put you way over the top for a 33-49 team.

22mpg is very decent for a backup PG. If Kemba plays less than 36mpg (he averages 34 for his career), then Lin gets those extra 2 minutes- not really a big deal. I don't see Lin playing 30mpg on this team, if that's what you're getting at.

Lamb played 20mpg for the 59-win Thunder 2 years ago. However early in the season, those minutes will likely be split with Troy Daniels or PJ Hairston (whichever one shows out in training camp/preseason more).

Clifford has always tried to stick with a tight 8-9 man rotation when the team is healthy (which we weren't last year). MKG, Batum, Kemba, Lin, and Lamb would be the 5 players at those three positions, and then we'd have 3-4 players playing consistent minutes at PF and C. That's a 9 man rotation where at least 7 of those guys play at least 20 minutes. That's about as good of minutes distribution as you could ask for.

[Mystical Apples]

I'd be surprised if Kemba plays 36. If anything I think he will play less than his career average.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Lin at TAG Heuer event in Beijing. The Swiss luxury watch maker is releasing a line of designer watches named after him, I think. Other athletes signed with TAG Heuer are Maria Sharapova and Cristiano Ronaldo. Jeremy, with his Harvard background, is the only NBA player chosen by TAG Heuer to target the high end affluent market.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGXJstGZ5HE[/youtube]

Good for Lin!

That said I'm not shocked at all given a) Lin's popularity in China & b) the way watches are used in China, as a status symbol. Just to give you an idea there were watch stores on almost every block of many areas of Hong Kong. In the areas I visited in China proper I didn't see it to quite that level, but it was similar.

[JuanCesta]

I'd be disappointed if Lin doesn't usurp Kemba for the starting spot after 10 or so games. It is clear that Lin is the superior player. Kemba shot something like 39.5% and 32% last season and is a career chucker shooting below 40% as the lead guard. In comparison Lin shot 44% and 37% last season and is a career 45% and 36% which is very efficient compared to below 40% shooting ball dominant players like Kemba.

[JuanCesta]

Next, Lin was traded to the Lakers. It all started off the same way with Mitch Kupchak saying he has been after Lin for 3 years and Byron Scott claiming to be a huge J Lin fan.

Once the season started, Lin was who he is. An efficient point guard putting up 50-40-90 percentages while Kobe was putting up under 30%. This got Kobe jealous of Lin and also that Lin was the main guy on the team and the same marginalization started. Kobe along with BScott who is just a Kobe worshipper began the process to eliminate and reduce Lin because he was outshining Kobe and producing well to the point people were questioning if this is Lin's team and he should take the last shot. They benched Lin for a career scrub Ronnie Price who Scott labeled head of the snake while Kobe went on to call Lin a coward, a p***y as well as other heinous names. The marginalization did not stop there. Lakers commentators Stu Lantz got in as well exaggerating every Lin turnover and missed shot while giving no credit to his play. Meanwhile the agenda was on full pace to do whatever it takes to get Kobe to beat MJ in scoring.

Things got worse from there. Once Price got injured, inferior rookie Clarkson was promoted to start ahead of the superior Lin. SO now was Lin not only backing up Price but also Clarkson. he would get 1 minute at the end fo each quarter and when he was hot, Scott used to yank him out.

I can go on and on but I am finally happy that Lin has chosen Hornets and Bobcats seem receptive of him.

SOrry for the two long stories but it had to be put out there.

Lmao.

Good luck Charlotte fans. Expect more of these kind of nonsense. These LOF are relentless.

What's so funny to "lmao" at?

Do you agree that Kobe was chucking under 40% from the field and under 30% from 3 all season and taking petty shots at Lin to cover for his pathetic on court displays? This was while Lin was putting up 50/40/90 and quietly saving the Lakers from blow out after blowout. Kobe was playing for MJ's record and nothing else and he saw that Lin was playing for the team and for team victories as opposed to personal records. Kobe then felt jealous of Lin putting up points efficiently and becoming the face of the franchise and went on to call Lin "soft", call Lin a "coward" and a "p****" amongst other disparaging things. Lin even asked to take the last shot of a game and rightly so because chances Lin scores were much higher than chances the inefficient chukcing Kobe scores. This pissed off Kobe even more and hurt his fake ego. Eventually he asked his son Byron Scott to replace Lin with Price who is a career scrub. Lin was not only outshining Kobe but he is much better player than Price and CLarkson put together. Kobe's jealousy and selfishness ruined Lin last season.

[HornetJail]

Oh god

[yosemiteben]

I'd be disappointed if Lin doesn't usurp Kemba for the starting spot after 10 or so games. It is clear that Lin is the superior player.

This is the kind of stuff that's going to make your time here less enjoyable for everyone involved.

Just plan on being disappointed, because Lin isn't starting after ten games. Lin and Cliff both have already said that.

[JuanCesta]

I'd be disappointed if Lin doesn't usurp Kemba for the starting spot after 10 or so games. It is clear that Lin is the superior player.

This is the kind of stuff that's going to make your time here less enjoyable for everyone involved.

Just plan on being disappointed, because Lin isn't starting after ten games. Lin and Cliff both have already said that.

Ben,

Saying and doing are different things. Rockets promised Lin as the face of the franchise and then went on brought Harden and a guy from Russia to replace Lin. Scott called himself a huge fan of Lin and then went on to replace a top 10 PG in Lin with a career scrub like Price and a rookie.

I will be surprised if Lin doesn't outplay Kemba especially considering Kemba's historic pathetic shooting from the field and 3 point land. That will put pressure on Kemba and the Lin fans will push for Lin to start on merit. Cho and Cliff will hear our voices and a decision will have to be made. Hoping it's the right one and that is the better player in Lin starting.

Not a guarantee but just saying that what coaches say is not necessarily what they will do, just going by history. hoep you understand my position yosemite.

[Roy Tarpley]

Next, Lin was traded to the Lakers. It all started off the same way with Mitch Kupchak saying he has been after Lin for 3 years and Byron Scott claiming to be a huge J Lin fan.

Once the season started, Lin was who he is. An efficient point guard putting up 50-40-90 percentages while Kobe was putting up under 30%. This got Kobe jealous of Lin and also that Lin was the main guy on the team and the same marginalization started. Kobe along with BScott who is just a Kobe worshipper began the process to eliminate and reduce Lin because he was outshining Kobe and producing well to the point people were questioning if this is Lin's team and he should take the last shot. They benched Lin for a career scrub Ronnie Price who Scott labeled head of the snake while Kobe went on to call Lin a coward, a p***y as well as other heinous names. The marginalization did not stop there. Lakers commentators Stu Lantz got in as well exaggerating every Lin turnover and missed shot while giving no credit to his play. Meanwhile the agenda was on full pace to do whatever it takes to get Kobe to beat MJ in scoring.

Things got worse from there. Once Price got injured, inferior rookie Clarkson was promoted to start ahead of the superior Lin. SO now was Lin not only backing up Price but also Clarkson. he would get 1 minute at the end fo each quarter and when he was hot, Scott used to yank him out.

I can go on and on but I am finally happy that Lin has chosen Hornets and Bobcats seem receptive of him.

SOrry for the two long stories but it had to be put out there.

Lmao.

Good luck Charlotte fans. Expect more of these kind of nonsense. These LOF are relentless.

What's so funny to "lmao" at?

Do you agree that Kobe was chucking under 40% from the field and under 30% from 3 all season and taking petty shots at Lin to cover for his pathetic on court displays? This was while Lin was putting up 50/40/90 and quietly saving the Lakers from blow out after blowout. Kobe was playing for MJ's record and nothing else and he saw that Lin was playing for the team and for team victories as opposed to personal records. Kobe then felt jealous of Lin putting up points efficiently and becoming the face of the franchise and went on to call Lin "soft", call Lin a "coward" and a "p****" amongst other disparaging things. Lin even asked to take the last shot of a game and rightly so because chances Lin scores were much higher than chances the inefficient chukcing Kobe scores. This pissed off Kobe even more and hurt his fake ego. Eventually he asked his son Byron Scott to replace Lin with Price who is a career scrub. Lin was not only outshining Kobe but he is much better player than Price and CLarkson put together. Kobe's jealousy and selfishness ruined Lin last season.

If this thread goes down the toilet, let me say that this is Ground Zero. We were present at the creation.

It starts with one rabid person (in this case, JuanCesta) making a ridiculous argument (although the large majority of Lin fans are rational).

Then another rabid person (i.e., sogood) on the other side gets ticked off with the lone rabid Lin fan, and then claims all Lin fans to be crazy while ignoring the fact that all the other Lin fans are rational.

Then the first rabid person, while ignoring all the other comments of sanity, responds only to the second rabid person's comment.

Can we nip this in the bud?

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I honestly think that it would be worthwhile for Lin fans to learn a bit more about the Hornets. Some of the past dynamics will have an impact on things like Lin's playing time, whether or not he starts, kind of offense he will play in, etc.

[yosemiteben]

Not a guarantee but just saying that what coaches say is not necessarily what they will do, just going by history. hoep you understand my position yosemite.

I'm saying that no Charlotte fans want to hear a bunch of Lin fans coming on here declaring that they'll be mad if Lin isn't starting after 10 games. Just don't come post on here if that's going to be your take, because we aren't going to want to hear that.

ETA: I do think as a whole Lin fans have been fine and I'm glad to have them and their excitement for the team here, didn't mean to stereotype the group.

[qiantom]

Batum is going to play quite some SF, so there will be more backup SG minutes than you imagine.

So basically you think Lin is going to eat into MKG's minutes?

No, what? MKG can play 30 min a game. Batum will play the rest of SF minutes, right? So there will be about 30 min left at the SG position. Lin does not need to take all the backup SG minutes. That's what I am saying. Half of that will suffice.

[yosemiteben]

Batum is going to play quite some SF, so there will be more backup SG minutes than you imagine.

So basically you think Lin is going to eat into MKG's minutes?

No, what? MKG can play 30 min a game. Batum will play the rest of SF minutes, right? So there will be about 30 min left at the SG position. Lin does not need to take all the backup SG minutes. That's what I am saying. Half of that will suffice.

Yeah, in my head that made sense but someone earlier laid out the minute allocation and I can see that happening. Stand corrected.

[JuanCesta]

Not a guarantee but just saying that what coaches say is not necessarily what they will do, just going by history. hoep you understand my position yosemite.

I'm saying that no Charlotte fans want to hear a bunch of Lin fans coming on here declaring that they'll be mad if Lin isn't starting after 10 games. Just don't come post on here if that's going to be your take, because we aren't going to want to hear that.

ETA: I do think as a whole Lin fans have been fine and I'm glad to have them and their excitement for the team here, didn't mean to stereotype the group.

If Lin is putting up better numbers than Kemba Walker and proves to be a winning player, will you have problems with Lin starting? Keep in mind Lin took a bunch of scrubs in NY and Houston to the playoffs. Don't we all want what's best for the Hornets and that is winning irrespective of who is on the court? I just feel that Lin is the better player and the better winning player over Kemba. I want Lin to prove it and start on merit. I'm sure coach Cliff is thinking the same way.

[yosemiteben]

If Lin is putting up better numbers than Kemba Walker and proves to be a winning player, will you have problems with Lin starting?

Not at all - I have problems with people who I suspect have never watched a full Hornets game saying in the offseason that they will be upset if Lin isn't starting for the Hornets by mid-November.

Let it play out, but these preemptive declarations about what our team should be doing with Lin are a bad look.

[qiantom]

So basically you think Lin is going to eat into MKG's minutes?

No, what? MKG can play 30 min a game. Batum will play the rest of SF minutes, right? So there will be about 30 min left at the SG position. Lin does not need to take all the backup SG minutes. That's what I am saying. Half of that will suffice.

Yeah, in my head that made sense but someone earlier laid out the minute allocation and I can see that happening. Stand corrected.

So Lin is not even competing with Kemba, MKG or Batum for minutes, although that could happen too. If he cannot show he is worth more playing time than a group headed by Lamb, most Lin fans and Charlotte fans will be disappointed I would imagine.

[spaceballer]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CNM_JLin_Vids/status/621843915788849153[/tweet]

Don't get trolled.

[tmd1012]

Next, Lin was traded to the Lakers. It all started off the same way with Mitch Kupchak saying he has been after Lin for 3 years and Byron Scott claiming to be a huge J Lin fan.

Once the season started, Lin was who he is. An efficient point guard putting up 50-40-90 percentages while Kobe was putting up under 30%. This got Kobe jealous of Lin and also that Lin was the main guy on the team and the same marginalization started. Kobe along with BScott who is just a Kobe worshipper began the process to eliminate and reduce Lin because he was outshining Kobe and producing well to the point people were questioning if this is Lin's team and he should take the last shot. They benched Lin for a career scrub Ronnie Price who Scott labeled head of the snake while Kobe went on to call Lin a coward, a p***y as well as other heinous names. The marginalization did not stop there. Lakers commentators Stu Lantz got in as well exaggerating every Lin turnover and missed shot while giving no credit to his play. Meanwhile the agenda was on full pace to do whatever it takes to get Kobe to beat MJ in scoring.

Things got worse from there. Once Price got injured, inferior rookie Clarkson was promoted to start ahead of the superior Lin. SO now was Lin not only backing up Price but also Clarkson. he would get 1 minute at the end fo each quarter and when he was hot, Scott used to yank him out.

I can go on and on but I am finally happy that Lin has chosen Hornets and Bobcats seem receptive of him.

SOrry for the two long stories but it had to be put out there.

Lmao.

Good luck Charlotte fans. Expect more of these kind of nonsense. These LOF are relentless.

What's so funny to "lmao" at?

Do you agree that Kobe was chucking under 40% from the field and under 30% from 3 all season and taking petty shots at Lin to cover for his pathetic on court displays? This was while Lin was putting up 50/40/90 and quietly saving the Lakers from blow out after blowout. Kobe was playing for MJ's record and nothing else and he saw that Lin was playing for the team and for team victories as opposed to personal records. Kobe then felt jealous of Lin putting up points efficiently and becoming the face of the franchise and went on to call Lin "soft", call Lin a "coward" and a "p****" amongst other disparaging things. Lin even asked to take the last shot of a game and rightly so because chances Lin scores were much higher than chances the inefficient chukcing Kobe scores. This pissed off Kobe even more and hurt his fake ego. Eventually he asked his son Byron Scott to replace Lin with Price who is a career scrub. Lin was not only outshining Kobe but he is much better player than Price and CLarkson put together. Kobe's jealousy and selfishness ruined Lin last season.

Kobe is not jealous of Lin. If you had watched "linsanity documentary", you would know Kobe actually HATEs Lin. After Lin dropped 38 points on Kobe's Lakers, he said he almost replied the media's question (do you think Kobe should know you by now) with "Kobe who?". Since then, the only chance Kobe could beat Lin is when Lin was his teammate.