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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#921 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:14 pm

JDR720 wrote:I don't think the media care at all who we pick. If anything, they'd want us to take Miller so Portland can deal #3 (Scoot) for Zion or to add to the Lillard "staying or going" storylines if they drafted Scoot.


I am saying whenever we take the guy the fans would want/big boards screamed we should the pick hasn't panned out...

We wanted Mitchell, but then general knowledge changed day of draft to take Monk.
Vonleh fell, so we had to take him...
Now everyone says Scoot is the obvious pick... so we are going to change our mind last minute.

Or we wanted Scoot all along and Mitch wanted to just have a good laugh at teams thinking we wanted Miller for no reason.

Who knows, but kind of makes following the draft at all besides 2 hours before seem kind of pointless.
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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#922 » by SWedd523 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:15 pm

JDR720 wrote:I don't think the media care at all who we pick. If anything, they'd want us to take Miller so Portland can deal #3 (Scoot) for Zion or to add to the Lillard "staying or going" storylines if they drafted Scoot.

I think we can all sit here and invent whatever narratives we want to get to the conclusion we want.


One thing is for certain: If MJ has final decision over who we pick, we all need to be very concerned about whichever guy ultimately gets picked
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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#923 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:18 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:Personally I think new owners are probably looking at fan responses and seeing Scoot has more supporters and that means more money for their wallstreet bank accounts. If they have a say I think they would lean that way.

Guess we will see, team still having a final meeting and then will decide.
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Seems like a more plausible theory then MJ isn't taking Miller because he said Paul George was the goat and said he airballed a free throw.
So because someone said something ridiculous about Miller you decided the best idea is to say something equally ridiculous about scoot?



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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#924 » by Snidely FC » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:22 pm

Mitch said at the combine, "this roster is good enough to draft for fit." Then the day after MJ saw Scoot and Miller, Mitch changed his tune to, "maybe next summer we will be good enough to draft for ft."

*If* the team was pointing toward Miller, and in the last 48 hrs *changed direction*, to me there can only be one catalyst: MJ
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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#926 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:26 pm

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Yeah seems like Bleacher Report vs Givony on this one. Wasserman has been pushing this for a minute.
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Post#927 » by Stun704 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:27 pm

MJ intervening was the reason for us drafting Kemba. MJ probably sees something similar in Scoot
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Post#929 » by yosemiteben » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:46 pm

It's important that we care about media speculation about our pick because ___________.
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Post#930 » by SWedd523 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:58 pm

yosemiteben wrote:It's important that we care about media speculation about our pick because ___________.

because..... it aligns with my opinion!
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Post#931 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:02 pm

Seems like Scoot is the pick now. Would be weird if it flipped back again.
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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#932 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:05 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Mitch said at the combine, "this roster is good enough to draft for fit." Then the day after MJ saw Scoot and Miller, Mitch changed his tune to, "maybe next summer we will be good enough to draft for ft."

*If* the team was pointing toward Miller, and in the last 48 hrs *changed direction*, to me there can only be one catalyst: MJ
And sometimes Mitch just isn't very good at speaking and says some absolutely idiotic s*** like he did in that initial press conference.

Or it was a smoke screen.

It didn't make sense then, it doesn't make sense now, it doesn't make sense to absolutely anyone in basketball, that our front office would believe that our roster is good enough that we can draft for fit with the number to pick in the draft.

All that being said, it is very possible that MJ has showed up at the last possible minute and thrown a wrench into everything by preferring scoot when our GM and Scouts have leaned miller.

Maybe we'll get some details on all of this after the Smoke Clears in a few weeks. Probably be as some skathing comments from Bill Simmons on one of his podcasts.

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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#933 » by amcoolio » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:21 pm

No offense to the Millerites but I honestly think Scoot can be as good as Donovan Mitchell in 3 years and we can figure out wing later/hope PJ improves. I just love his midrange and rim game and ability to get a bucket. I also feel uneasy still about Miller but will be happy either way
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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#934 » by amcoolio » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:22 pm

Also we take Scoot irregardless of LaMelo… no offense but LaMelo hasn’t shown yet he can lead the team to the playoffs or be a franchise player with his injury history
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Post#935 » by vexco » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:24 pm

amcoolio wrote:No offense to the Millerites but I honestly think Scoot can be as good as Donovan Mitchell in 3 years and we can figure out wing later/hope PJ improves. I just love his midrange and rim game and ability to get a bucket. I also feel uneasy still about Miller but will be happy either way


Scoot can't score like Mitchell and I don't think Mitchell is a player you can win with anyway. High volume chucker.
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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#936 » by KingCat » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:26 pm

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amcoolio wrote:No offense to the Millerites but I honestly think Scoot can be as good as Donovan Mitchell in 3 years and we can figure out wing later/hope PJ improves. I just love his midrange and rim game and ability to get a bucket. I also feel uneasy still about Miller but will be happy either way


Scoot can't score like Mitchell and I don't think Mitchell is a player you can win with anyway. High volume chucker.


Mitchell averaged 15 points his second year of college. No one really projected him to be a 25 5 5 guy.
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Post#937 » by vexco » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:31 pm

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amcoolio wrote:No offense to the Millerites but I honestly think Scoot can be as good as Donovan Mitchell in 3 years and we can figure out wing later/hope PJ improves. I just love his midrange and rim game and ability to get a bucket. I also feel uneasy still about Miller but will be happy either way


Scoot can't score like Mitchell and I don't think Mitchell is a player you can win with anyway. High volume chucker.


Mitchell averaged 15 points his second year of college. No one really projected him to be a 25 5 5 guy.


So why would anyone project Scoot to be that guy? He's not a good shooter, he doesn't get to the line at a high rate for someone whose game SHOULD rely on rim pressure(less than 3 FTA per game) and his finishing at the rim through contact is bad even with his great athleticism and strength. I just don't see it.
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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#938 » by KingCat » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:33 pm

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Scoot can't score like Mitchell and I don't think Mitchell is a player you can win with anyway. High volume chucker.


Mitchell averaged 15 points his second year of college. No one really projected him to be a 25 5 5 guy.


So why would anyone project Scoot to be that guy? He's not a good shooter, he doesn't get to the line at a high rate for someone whose game SHOULD rely on rim pressure(less than 3 FTA per game) and his finishing at the rim through contact is bad even with his great athleticism and strength. I just don't see it.


My point was these are all still young, developing players. History has proven that not being a great scorer at a previous level doesn't mean you can't become that in the NBA.
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Post#939 » by vexco » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:38 pm

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Mitchell averaged 15 points his second year of college. No one really projected him to be a 25 5 5 guy.


So why would anyone project Scoot to be that guy? He's not a good shooter, he doesn't get to the line at a high rate for someone whose game SHOULD rely on rim pressure(less than 3 FTA per game) and his finishing at the rim through contact is bad even with his great athleticism and strength. I just don't see it.


My point was these are all still young, developing players. History has proven that not being a great scorer at a previous level doesn't mean you can't become that in the NBA.


And my point is what tools does he have that have shown he's capable of that?

If we draft him, I hope it works out. I'm just judging based off of the information available right now.

If he was the same tier of athlete as Morant, Rose, Westbrook or even John Wall I'd feel better about it but he isn't.
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Re: The Scoot Henderson Thread 

Post#940 » by countryboi » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:03 pm

amcoolio wrote:No offense to the Millerites but I honestly think Scoot can be as good as Donovan Mitchell in 3 years and we can figure out wing later/hope PJ improves. I just love his midrange and rim game and ability to get a bucket. I also feel uneasy still about Miller but will be happy either way


the thing i like about Scoot is he has the want too, He wants to be great and you cant coach that
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