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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#941 » by Badd_Intentions » Fri Feb 1, 2013 8:11 pm

Interesting, Seems that Cho is wanting to flip this pick for a player, but I question the kind of player you can get in return for a mid 1st rounder? I'm guessing we are trying to package one of our current players(hendo, TT).
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#942 » by SWedd523 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 8:38 pm

Could trade it for a pick in next year's draft. Say there's a team in that range looking to add a young guy they're really a fan of for some reason, they could go for it. Similar to what we did with the pick that became Lexy.

The other team could do the same thing with a player instead of a future pick
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#943 » by Eoghan » Fri Feb 1, 2013 8:39 pm

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I'm sure a bunch of people said "Steven" Jackson, "Shawn" May, "Okafur", butchered Alexis Ajinca. I've seen Ramen Sessions a few times, Gana's had all sorts of things done to his full first name, right down auto-correct changing it to Lasagna at least once, and then a ton of people mixed up "Corey" Maggette and "Cory" Higgins last year, leading to some rough google searches.

Lol, I have a Scholastics Play-By-Play Classics program and it has a page congratulating all the alumni that have played in the event that have made it to the NBA. Everyone's name is spelled correctly except for one guy: Desajon Diop. Talk about a fubar misspelling.

And Plumlee is not that more offensively talented than Noel. If Biz is at a 1, Noel is at a 2 and Plumlee is like a generous 4 with Hakeem being a 10.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#944 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Feb 2, 2013 12:19 am

It's probably the last time we will see this configuration but NBA draft net has McLemore #1 to the Bobcats and Shabazz Muhammad #5 to the Pelicans.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#945 » by Badd_Intentions » Sat Feb 2, 2013 12:48 am

I know most of the draft focus at Kentucky is about Noel, but anybody take a look at Poythress? Is he a SF or PF in the NBA?
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#946 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Feb 2, 2013 12:53 am

Badd_Intentions wrote:I know most of the draft focus at Kentucky is about Noel, but anybody take a look at Poythress? Is he a SF or PF in the NBA?


Hes a tweener, unfortunately.
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Post#947 » by catch20two » Sat Feb 2, 2013 1:16 am

Badd_Intentions wrote:I know most of the draft focus at Kentucky is about Noel, but anybody take a look at Poythress? Is he a SF or PF in the NBA?

Alex Poythress isn't even a better prospect than Terrence Jones was as a freshman at Kentucky. That's all that needs to be said.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#948 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Feb 2, 2013 3:22 am

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CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:
I'm sure a bunch of people said "Steven" Jackson, "Shawn" May, "Okafur", butchered Alexis Ajinca. I've seen Ramen Sessions a few times, Gana's had all sorts of things done to his full first name, right down auto-correct changing it to Lasagna at least once, and then a ton of people mixed up "Corey" Maggette and "Cory" Higgins last year, leading to some rough google searches.

Lol, I have a Scholastics Play-By-Play Classics program and it has a page congratulating all the alumni that have played in the event that have made it to the NBA. Everyone's name is spelled correctly except for one guy: Desajon Diop. Talk about a fubar misspelling.

And Plumlee is not that more offensively talented than Noel. If Biz is at a 1, Noel is at a 2 and Plumlee is like a generous 4 with Hakeem being a 10.


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MasterIchiro wrote:It's probably the last time we will see this configuration but NBA draft net has McLemore #1 to the Bobcats and Shabazz Muhammad #5 to the Pelicans.


Probably the site I trust least.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#949 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Feb 2, 2013 3:34 am

Plumlee will be average offensively at the NBA level. He has a hook shot with an up and under. Noel will be 10 times the better overall NBA player as Plumlee.

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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#950 » by amcoolio » Sat Feb 2, 2013 3:43 am

I'm this close to being all aboard the Noel chuck wagon. He adds 30 pounds a muscle, he is going to be unstoppable in the NBA. His offensive game will come out of nowhere like AD's did and he could average 10/10/2 right out of the gate.
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Post#951 » by Benjamin Linus » Sat Feb 2, 2013 6:04 pm

I'm going to diverge here a little bit, but do you guys remember Cho's little formula that was brought up a few years ago when we hired him?

Cho is attracted to what he referred to as the four C's: "Guys who compete, guys with character, guys who have consistency and guys who cover (play defense)."

He looks to avoid what he calls the four S's: "Guys who are slow, guys who are soft, guys who are stupid or guys who are selfish."

Pretty much sums MKG up to a tee... and I guess you could say the same for Kemba and Bismack. It seems like this could give us a bit of an idea on who were looking at in this year's draft. I haven't really followed much college basketball this year, so who are some of the players that fit Cho's M.O. and who doesn't?
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Post#952 » by Kembastockton » Sat Feb 2, 2013 6:12 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Plumlee will be average offensively at the NBA level. He has a hook shot with an up and under. Noel will be 10 times the better overall NBA player as Plumlee.

And yes, Im a Duke fan


Then my dear Duke fan how did you not notice that Mason has a jumper out to about 18 feet? How did you not notice that he has spin moves to get around opponents close to the rim? And yes he has a jump hook with either hand. He does most of his damage near the rim, because he has been strong enough to get great positioning. Now with all of that said about Mason how have you not noticed that Nerlens does not have any reliable offense of any kind?
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#953 » by JMAC3 » Sat Feb 2, 2013 6:25 pm

Guys who I think could make a run at being in the lottery that are not getting talked about.

Victor Oladipo
Erick Green
Phil Pressey
DeShaun Thomas
Jeff Withey
Brandon Paul
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Post#954 » by Benjamin Linus » Sat Feb 2, 2013 6:29 pm

After doing a quick search, it seems like Cho would be salivating over a prospect like Marcus Smart. Don't know much about him, but maybe he's in consideration with our Portland pick or if we look to move Sessions and/or Henderson. Here are some highlights that fit Cho's blueprint...

DraftExpress wrote:He possesses excellent intangibles, having earned the reputation for being a tremendous teammate, leader, and competitor, who led his team to back-to-back Texas state championships in high school. Those traits are on display watching Smart on the defensive end, as he seems to relish the opportunity to lock down his man when defending on the ball. Given his competitive nature, it's not surprising that Smart's best games of the season so far have come against their three ranked opponents. He has a unique combination of physical tools, basketball IQ, and skill level for a player his age, and NBA teams will likely love his intangibles and ability to fit into or help develop a winning culture.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#955 » by Kembastockton » Sat Feb 2, 2013 7:04 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Guys who I think could make a run at being in the lottery that are not getting talked about.

Victor Oladipo
Erick Green
Phil Pressey
DeShaun Thomas
Jeff Withey
Brandon Paul


Of those I guys the only one I have ever seen mentioned as a first round pick at all is Jeff Withey in the nbadraft.net mock. I am surprised that Deshaun has been consistently ranked so low. He must be a horrible defender, because he is a very good scorer.

After doing a quick search, it seems like Cho would be salivating over a prospect like Marcus Smart. Don't know much about him, but maybe he's in consideration with our Portland pick or if we look to move Sessions and/or Henderson. Here are some highlights that fit Cho's blueprint...


I really like this kid as well. However unless our primary pick falls or he is lights out during the tournament I don't see us taking him. He is likely going to be a 6-10 pick. He is likely to be low for our pick to high for the Portland pick.
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Post#956 » by catch20two » Sat Feb 2, 2013 7:08 pm

I think I've seen enough of this Michael Carter-Williams character to disqualify any interest I may have had as a Bobcats fan in him with the Portland pick. It's pretty cut and dry that the kid just cannot shoot at all. I'm almost sure that he'd parallel to Austin Rivers in inefficiency in the NBA.
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Post#957 » by SWedd523 » Sat Feb 2, 2013 7:11 pm

Still can't decide if I like this Steven Adams guy



Tons of great games on today, UNC and Va Tech in overtime, Florida State and Duke on right now, Syracuse just lost to Pitt, Michigan and Indiana on later tonight, etc.

Great day to catch some great ball and check out some prospects
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Post#958 » by debo23 » Sat Feb 2, 2013 7:31 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Guys who I think could make a run at being in the lottery that are not getting talked about.

Victor Oladipo
Erick Green
Phil Pressey
DeShaun Thomas
Jeff Withey
Brandon Paul


I don't know why Green isn't getting much attention - I think he is going to be stephen curry clone minus the injuries in the NBA. No matter how low he is projected, someone is going to snatch him up early and it's going to pay off for them.
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Post#959 » by JMAC3 » Sat Feb 2, 2013 7:43 pm

In Response to recent Marcus Smart talk:

I was actually starting to watch some tape on Marcus Smart last night. I think he could end up making a push to the top 5 in the draft. The more I watch this kid the more I like him, especially fit wise for the bobcats. He is mostly playing point guard for Oklahoma State this year, but I think he would be an excellent fit at 2 next to Kemba. He has the ability to score in a ton of ways, but what makes him stand out to me is his passing ability which could be huge to this teams development. I think more and more the NBA is switching to another playmaker at 2 guard rather then just a spot up type shooter ex. Harden, Wade, Waiters, even Kobe of late, and many more.

It kind of makes sense for us, because Kemba is not really a pure point guard and doesn't excel at getting his teammates easy buckets like Paul, Calderon, Andre Miller, and Nash. Those guys make their teammates better and I am not sure Kemba will ever be in their ballpark as a playmaker. Having Smart next to him would allow Kemba to play off the ball more if he wants. Also, Smart would be a good fit next to MKG because he is such a good passer and playmaker, something a guy like MKG would live off much like Marion did with Nash.

Smart has shown he has the ability to put up big numbers in almost any category whether it is points, steals, assists, rebounds, or even blocks. He is listed at 6-4 and while he is not an elite athlete he has a good frame and great strength. He has good form on his jumpshot, even though he is not shooting a great percentage from three, he still is averaging 1.2 makes per game. Also, he can score off the dribble whether it be a mid range pull up or a drive into traffic.

I have been thinking about this for about two weeks with trying to draft either Smart or Carter Williams and play them at the two, but after watching tape I think Smart is the much better prospect. Smart plays on an underrated Oklahoma State team too, so his numbers arent crazy because of team balance with Markele Brown, leBryan Nash, and Phil Forte playing with him.

They play Kansas today at 4:00 and I hope that I am getting the game, because it will be interesting to see how he plays compared to McLemore. Smart has came up big in almost all of OK States big games this year. I think we need to decide if a player like Smart or Carter Williams is a better fit for us then a guy like McLemore or Shabazz at the 2.
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Post#960 » by SWedd523 » Sat Feb 2, 2013 8:14 pm

I brought Smart up a few weeks ago and nobody seemed to have much of an opinion on him.

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